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#51 purple_daisy

Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:27 AM

Oh Reality Bites that would have been awful, my heart goes out to you. Good idea by your DH to get a cleaner in. You might find that with regular zofran you can get the vomiting under control. It didn't stop me being sick, but last pregnancy whenever I would try weaning myself off it I would end up a basket case so the zofran obviously was reducing my sickness and that can only be a good thing.

My news is that, despite throwing up this morning, I think my hg is slowly starting to improve. I have had three vomit-free days in the last week and the other days my vomits are getting less frequent and I'm holding down more food and fluids. I even cancelled my IV fluids this week as I am feeling hopeful that I can stay hydrated on my own now. I have another week off work still and am really hoping to be even better by the time I return.

#52 RealityBites

Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:27 PM

Good luck Purple Daisy!

I got 'crackered' today by a doctor (not my usual one). She said 'small meals, lots of rest' and then wrote me a referral to see her husband, an acupuncturist, for 'nausea in pregnancy'.  huh.gif

I said, 'just give me the zofran'  rolleyes.gif

It made me a little stabby.

Edited by RealityBites, 30 November 2012 - 03:27 PM.

#53 kate_123

Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (RealityBites @ 30/11/2012, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good luck Purple Daisy!

I got 'crackered' today by a doctor (not my usual one). She said 'small meals, lots of rest' and then wrote me a referral to see her husband, an acupuncturist, for 'nausea in pregnancy'.  huh.gif

I said, 'just give me the zofran'  rolleyes.gif

It made me a little stabby.

I'm sorry but referring you to her husband is a conflict of interest and should not happen. That is bad practice. U poor thing, I have a very low tolerance for unsympathic/non-understanding drs. I hope u got ur zofran.

#54 RealityBites

Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (kate_123 @ 01/12/2012, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry but referring you to her husband is a conflict of interest and should not happen. That is bad practice. U poor thing, I have a very low tolerance for unsympathic/non-understanding drs. I hope u got ur zofran.

Yes I got the meds! She made a big deal about my not taking multivitamins as well, I think she just had no clue about hg and wanted to justify her consult fee.

#55 nickyblue

Posted 01 December 2012 - 08:05 PM

Hi Ladies

I need a bit of a reality kick!  The urge to have another baby has hit full force - dh told me he is ready when ever I am and is quite excited about the thought of having no2!  This got me thinking.  Then I went to mg and held a newish born and I got so emotional about the bub we lost a few months ago and the longing for another baby went mad!  BUT after the mc and ms I suffered for the short time I was pregnant we decided to wait!  Life is so busy right now I would be crazy to consider ttc!  I am working 3.5 days a week, I am studying part time online to be a teacher (1 semester of 4 completed) We are just about to move house and Mr J (19months) is such an active little man he really needs me to be functional!  Where would I fit another HG pregnancy in!  I was sick for 40+5 days with Mr J hopsital visits, zofran, vomiting every day!!!  Depression and tiredness don't even start to describe the mess I was in!  
AND YET I can't stop thinking about having another baby now!

I need an intervention!!!  Am I being completly insane for considering it?

#56 RealityBites

Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:31 AM

Yes  biggrin.gif

But I am on my third hg pregnancy, so I am obviously certifiable!

#57 purple_daisy

Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:34 AM

Nickyblue you asked for an intervention so here goes:

What will happen if you are as sick this time as you were last time? Who will care for your little one? What will happen with your studies? Will you be able to defer for a year - and then would you realistically be able to return to study with a 3yo and newborn? Do you have sufficient sick leave/savings that your family would be ok if you need to take months off work?

I totally think you are crazy - but that is because I have all the horrors of HG fresh in my mind and have vowed never ever to do this again (we are pricing vasectomy options for DH already).

BUT on the other hand I vowed never to do it again after my first pregnancy and yet here I am once again so I guess that makes me crazy too hahahahahahahaha.... I had never wanted an only child, so for me that was the motivation to put myself through this all over, so we could have two kids and our family will be complete.

So I'm not sure whether that is a very successful intervention hahaha. I think you are crazy, but then I think anyone who puts themself through a HG pregnancy is crazy, myself included original.gif I do understand your motivation though and my only suggestion would be to get yourself as prepared as possible in case you are super sick again eg build up some savings or extra sick leave, look into the deferrment options with your course, put feelers out to know what family/friend support you might have if it came to the point where you were too sick to care for your child. I did similar things prior to falling pregnant and was very pleased that I knew what my entitlements were and who I could turn to for assistance when the going got rough. Good luck.

#58 purple_daisy

Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:13 AM

I just read that Kate Middleton was admitted to hospital with HG.... the article said things like 'while unpleasant for the mother.... [if kept properly hydrated] it is relatively easy blah blah blah'.

My thoughts are with Kate as she begins her journey through this "relatively easy" condition.

#59 Cath42

Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:35 AM

I don't belong here (4 kids but never had HG), but just wanted to say that if anything positive might emerge from the 9 months of hell poor Kate is going to endure, it is this: people might finally realise that HG is a legitimate, physical condition and might take it seriously. I have a good friend who had HG throughout the duration of her first and only pregnancy 17 years ago. It was beyond awful, and I'm sure it's the reason her son is an only child. She was so sick for the whole 9 months that all she could do was lie on the floor and try to hold a conversation while throwing up every half hour or so. What annoyed me the most, and everyone else who rallied to take care of her during that wretched time, was that she was consistently told by the doctors she saw that her condition was at least partly "psychological". Everyone who knew her disagreed with that; she was, and remains, the most laid back, easy going person I know. It wasn't psychological; she was terribly, terribly sick.

Now, anyone who wants to believe that Kate Middleton's HG is "all in her mind" will have to overlook the fact that this woman managed to get through years of public scrutiny without putting a foot wrong. She got through a wedding that was televised around the world and watched by billions without batting an eyelid. I'm not a Monarchist, but I was so impressed by her ability to perform under such unrelenting pressure. I challenge anyone to tell her that her medical condition is psychological.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't wish HG on anybody. But if anything positive comes from Kate's ordeal it might be that people develop a greater understanding of HG.

Hang in there. I honestly don't know how you ladies get through pregnancy.

#60 RealityBites

Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:39 AM

I feel sorry for her. HG under media glare *shudder*

Funny Cath52, my DH said the same thing this morning, 'might be more research on it now'. One can only hope ..

#61 Cath42

Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:59 PM

I feel awful for her. She's under a lot of pressure to have children. Hopefully, the Palace will issue an announcement that she won't be making any appearances until after the birth, and possibly some time after the birth. I can recall that my friend continued to have HG during her labour (even throwing up while pushing, which must have been horrendous) and then needed a good couple of months to rest and recuperate from it all. The Royal family does seem to be a bit more enlightened than it used to be, and if this pregnancy really is awful Kate may just be able to stop at one child. The British Parliament has also just passed legislation that says that Prince William's first child will be King or Queen one day. If this one's a girl, she'll be Queen one day regardless of whether she has any male siblings.

Edited by Cath42, 04 December 2012 - 05:03 PM.

#62 Starrydawn

Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:59 AM

Poor Kate, I really feel for her. Royal or not HG is completely debilitating. Many OBs and people have been " crackering" her. But it is being taken seriously by others.

It is just such a misunderstood condition. Definitely not pyschological as no way would we make ourselves that ill.

I hope all you ladies feel better soon. I think many people want the baby but not the HG but know they have to suffer it to get the baby. I lived through it once and for me it is just not possible for so many reasons to willingly go there again.

Lets hope this does help with some understanding towards it.

#63 purple_daisy

Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:09 PM

Did you guys read Pru's article "Dear Kate" on EB's Top Articles list? It was brilliant.

Good news for me today at the GP. The doc got out the measuring tape but after quite a lot of HEAVY prodding and poking around to find the uterus she told me that all that vomiting had given me 'incredible' abs that were 'so strong' she couldn't actually identify anything underneath them. So there, dear friends, is the one and only silver lining I may ever hear for my months of bedridden, tear-filled, misery. That and of course a happy healthy baby at the end, but for now, as a woman who has always been slightly portly with miniscule muscles that struggle to open the vegemite jar, I will enjoy the moment of being complimented on my incredible abs original.gif

Hope that story gives someone a smile if they are having a tough day.

#64 RealityBites

Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:34 PM


#65 Furfeathersfleece

Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:56 PM

Hi everyone. I haven't posted in this support group before. My first baby was born in April. I suffered from HG the whole Pregnnancy. It was horrific   sad.gif I swore I'd never do it again but somehow, not even 12 months later, we are planning to TTC number 2 next year. I'm terrified of getting it again. I've been to see an ob who specializes in HG and she said a recent study found a 15% recurrence rate, although in her experience she estimates it's more like 30%. Beats 96% which is what I found all over the net! Either way, I'm expecting to get it again and have a treatment plan from this specialist ob so I can start treatment early. We've even moved back to where our families are so we have support this time round. But still, I'm terrified  sad.gif

I really dont know how I'll manage my toddler while I'm sick - most probably he will need to go to day care while I'm at my worst, as I can't function at all. Last time I spent 8 weeks in and out of hospital for rehydration, and couldn't keep any water down the entire pregnancy so the last trimester when I could finally eat I packed on a whopping 20kg as all I could drink and keep down was juice and soft drink. I'm still trying to lose it, Grrr.

I copped such ignorance while I was sick which made it worse too. I fear a repeat of this with the next pregnancy.

Anyway, I guess I just wanted to pop my head in and introduce  myself. It'd be nice to have some online buddies who know what HG is like and who don't think I'm an attention seeker or a wuss.

#66 purple_daisy

Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

Hi FurFeathers and welcome! Nobody here will call you an attention seeker or a wuss - we have all copped that during our journeys and know how frustrating it can be!

It sounds like you are quite well prepared for any HG that you might get with #2. One suggestion I would have since you are open to the idea of day care would be to consider putting your little one in care even for one day a week now so they can start adjusting. You might not get sick, but if you do you might find (like I did) that you have to have others care for your little one nearly full time during the roughest weeks/months, and it was much much easier for us that DD was already settled and used to other carers.

Good luck with TTC.

#67 NastyMuddyPuddles

Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:16 PM

Hi guys and welcome furfeathers! Sorry I haven't posted in ages. I've been managing 3 days a week back at work and as long as I take the meds every 5 hours I'm no too bad. That being said some days are still horrendous and it's embarrassing vomiting at work when unseen strangers are calling out from
Adjoining stalls to ask if they can help. Luckily those days seem to be getting less frequent now.

I've had so many messages from people about Kate and her HG, hopefully it brings lots of attention to what it really is, not just bad morning sickness.

Anyway, also sick with hay fever at the moment from these winds so off to bed with me! Hope you're all feeling ok today

#68 RealityBites

Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

FurFeathers - I think the trick is just to take it one day at a time, and hope for the best but plan for the worst. Good luck.

Z - wow, good on you, are you on zofran? I am so thankful that I am mostly working from home at the moment. I have to be in Sydney (hour and a half train trip, or might get DH to drive me) next Friday at 10am for a work meeting. Will be hitting up the zofran that morning, am a bit terrified that it will be one of my bad days.

#69 Furfeathersfleece

Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:28 PM

Thank purple daisy, I'm sure I will need a lot of help with him while at my worst. Getting him used to care before hand is a goOd idea.

#70 purple_daisy

Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:37 AM

For any ladies on zofran (aka ondansetron if you are buying the generic brand) I have great news!
As we all know, the wafers are very expensive. BUT once you get to the point of being able to swallow tablets consider this: Sydney Compounding Chemist sells 20 tablets for $25!!! They are also willing to send them out to you express post for $10 p & h. So for me, that works out at $1.50 per 8mg tablet and has brought my weekly medication cost down from $150 to $35. :0 I asked my GP and she says the wafers are so expensive because of that melt in your mouth technology whereas it is much cheaper to manufacture the tablets.
You just have to fax them your script, then they ring up and take your payment over the phone and post them out. It is really easy and I have my first batch arriving tomorrow.
I was given their details by a friend who bought her tablets there through the entire pregnancy and it saved her thousands.
Google them or PM me for the contact info. For any Sydney-ites they are in Carlingford.

Edited by purple_daisy, 06 December 2012 - 07:39 AM.

#71 RealityBites

Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:43 PM

Purple daisy thanks, sounds good. The stupid gp only gave me one repeat and didn't even suggest wafers, so I have to wait until vomiting settles before I can take tablet.
Feeling sorry for myself today, I have two kids at homeand have been vomiting for five hours. Acupuncture my a*se. sad.gif

Edited by RealityBites, 06 December 2012 - 12:44 PM.

#72 Starrydawn

Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:55 PM

RealityBites next time just ask your Gp or tell them as I had too that it has to be the zofran wafers. Most of them don't have a clue.

Purple daisy that is great about the tabs being ale to get cheap. I must of spent thousands on zofran.

#73 kate_123

Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

Hi Ladies, I've been doing some catch up reading and I have decided, after IV fluids yesterday and weeks of regular zofran 3x a day that its probably time I join this group properly.  I feel lucky that I'm not as sick as some of you on here, but I also have chronic fatigue syndrome and so I have a much lower tolerance to everything. I insisted on an ob review today. Ive lost 2 1/2 kilos in 3 weeks, even after litres of IV fluids yesterday. My bp was also still 90/60. Mostly living off jelly and ice blocks at the moment. My ob gave me a medical certificate until 23rd dec. I am taking a week off at a time from work but feel so much better now for doing it (even tho i don't have the sick leave so it will be unpaid) but at least the stress of trying to push myself to get to work and then feel awful when I don't make it is relieved. I admire those that are able to work through it. I'm not a graceful vomiter and I couldnt face vomiting in our very echoey communal toilet block!

I cant totally understand the desperate thoughts other women have expressed on here. This is my first but I have had lots of anxiety already from this sickness. My ob recommends I see a psych as I am at risk of also developing post natal depression. It makes me sad because I have always been a very maternal person and pictured loving being pregnant and a mum. Luckily my husband and I only ever wanted 2 children but I've already told him its going to be quite a while before I will be ready to do this again!

I agree, Royal Kate has probably helped our cause in that people will see her hospitalised and realise that morning sickness can be quite severe requiring hospital management (although also being called Kate and sharing an approx due date, I will have to get use to the whole 'princess Kate' references)

Anyways, thought I would introduce myself properly and give my background story and I will endevour to hang around these parts more as just reading your posts has made me feel immensely better about my situation and that Im not alone. Hope everyone is having an ok day. Hang in there girls xxx

#74 RealityBites

Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

Hi Kate, welcome even though we all wish we didn't have to come here!

How far along are you? (I'm 18 weeks)

I have 5 year gaps between my 2.5 children, due to HG and, last time, postnatal anxiety which hit 3 days after the birth. I seem to have forgotten how horrendous it all was by about 4 years! If it helps you at all, I didn't have any trouble bonding with my second daughter, even after HG and PND, and she is the light of my life original.gif

I'm working mostly from home, I couldn't go to work either, the last few weeks of teaching 2 days/week were awful, and I had to have a couple of weeks off.

AFM I'm feeling better today, yesterday was not good. I told my husband again that we had made a big mistake. I had to take 2 Zofran and had a cracking headache, luckily slept through the night and feeling ok today. I always need to take it very easy the day after a horrible day though, I am just glad my horrible days are only 2/3 times a week rather than every day, in which case I would be admitting myself to the local hospital and/or psych ward.

#75 kate_123

Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:23 PM

Hi RealityBites,
Im 10 1/2 weeks so in the thick of things at the moment. Haven't really left the couch in days. Just had my morning shower at 1pm and that was ambitious. Trying to take it one day at a time but its pretty soul destroying. I can't wait for the day I can eat again, OMG im going to be so appreciative of all the beautiful foods in the world! I had about an hour yesterday that I felt ok, I didnt leave the couch in that time but I just sat there recognising how clear my mind was and how things seemed so much more achievable.

Hope everyone else gets at least a glimmer of relief at some point during their day today. bbighug.gif

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