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#1 amabanana

Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:50 PM

So, I just stupidly entered into an argument on FB about she who shall not be named and getting babies to sleep.   I just can't help myself.

So, what do you do?  If you see someone on FB recommending her book do you say something?  Do you think it's rude to comment if you disagree with the method?

#2 MummaSgettie

Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

My usual response is: "I would not use that book as toilet paper, have you heard of Elizabeth Pantley?"



#3 amabanana

Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (MummaSgettie @ 08/11/2012, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My usual response is: "I would not use that book as toilet paper, have you heard of Elizabeth Pantley?"


*like*



#4 CupOfCoffee

Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

I would either say nothing or say 'I had great success with.... Because it........'

I don't think you need to denigrate one, instead advocate what you see as the preferred method.


#5 M1B2G

Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:59 PM

I do not think disagreements on parenting styles play out well on facebook....

If I felt the need to say something I would say I did not find her approach useful and that some people have really strong views on this issue...

I am not a fan in general about putting personal stuff on facebook so maybe the wrong person to ask...

#6 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (MummaSgettie @ 08/11/2012, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My usual response is: "I would not use that book as toilet paper, have you heard of Elizabeth Pantley?"


Love it!

She who shall not be named is all over my FB this morning. Luckily my friends and I are on the same page when it comes to the she-devil.

#7 opethmum

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:02 PM

My rule on FB is thou shalt not get too personal on FB does not end well

Edited by opethmum, 08 November 2012 - 05:03 PM.


#8 Dylan's Mummy

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

You could say that you have looked at her book but felt that you didn't want to follow such a strict schedule.

#9 flowermama

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

I have a friend who adores this person and has offered to loan me the books several times, I just say thanks but her style isn't for me (I leave out that I read the book in horror and gave it back to the library quick smart!!).

#10 amabanana

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

I guess my issue with it is not that I care about my friend's parenting approach as such, but that a post glorifying the book and singing it's praises encourages other people to use it.  I wanted to add some balance which was probably a bad idea.  I don't think I was rude but it certainly ignited a heated debate.  huh.gif

#11 Starletta

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

She's a hot topic.

I posted something on my status today after watching her tripe on the today show.

Got some interesting responses, some of which I deleted.

I think she preys on and makes money off tired, vulnerable mothers.

#12 ~Nic~

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

I saw someone at work reading it the other day... I so badly wanted to throw it in the bin when she wasn't looking. Instead, when I was chatting to her, I asked how her bub's sleep was going as she had mentioned she was having some trouble and suggested she join EB to get opinions on all of the different methods. She saw me a week later and said she had ditched the book and was trying something else...


#13 bandbub

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

it doesnt help that its reported on every second week on numerous morning shows and i bet you that none of the hosts would do it to their children

Edited by bandbub, 08 November 2012 - 05:21 PM.


#14 LookMumNoHands

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

What or who the heck are you on about?

#15 Guest_- Poppy -_*

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

I just ignore it, I dont get into arguments with people on FB.

#16 Kant Anchor Us

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

weird coincidence, Im in 2 Due in December facebook groups and both were talking about this book today.

I wouldnt use it myself, but I do know a couple of people who swear by it. Which is pretty much what I said.

ETA Ive only skimmed through the book

ETA Ah so she was on tv today, that explains it.

Edited by Soccer Mum, 08 November 2012 - 05:27 PM.


#17 Ruby Victoria

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (LookMumNoHands @ 08/11/2012, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What or who the heck are you on about?


+1


#18 RillyBilly

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE
So, what do you do? If you see someone on FB recommending her book do you say something? Do you think it's rude to comment if you disagree with the method?


I say nothing, because a) it's none of my business if another mother chooses to try her methods and b) some mothers I know have had success using her methods (assuming we're talking about the same person).

If I can think of anything they might not have thought of to try, definitely I'll mention it, but I think different strokes for different folks.

#19 ~*Twilight~Zone*~

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (LookMumNoHands @ 08/11/2012, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What or who the heck are you on about?

Rhymes with Dizzie Mall   wink.gif

#20 The Old Bag

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Monket @ 08/11/2012, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hopefully no one can find the book because of the swag of EBers that hide them in inns propriety areas of the shops and libraries.


OT but are you posting from a Samsung galaxy by any chance?  I think I recognise that epic style of predictive text fail original.gif

#21 Angelina Ballerina

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:40 PM

I wouldn't get into an argument on fb about anything.

I'd probably say to the new mum that i was glad she  found something that worked for her and her baby.

I'd also warn her about the crazies who like to carry on about she who cannot be named.

Yes, there are a whole bunch of us who think that YOU are the crazies  wink.gif

#22 BubblyGal

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:42 PM

Really?

For god sake ladies, what a bunch of judgemental women!

As a first time Mum to be, I have been blown away by the judgement which goes on between Mums about sleeping/feeding/[insert any other aspect of parenting here].  

It is our right to choose and our right to decide what works best for us and our families and we should support each other in whatever decisions we chose to make.  

People talk about judgement and equality in the workplace...well, for someone who works in an industry which is often at the peak of this type of judgement, I have never witnessed anything like what I've seen on EB.

For the record, I have a number of girlfriends, all first time Mums who have delivered their babies different ways and who have made very different decisions on feeding and sleeping - our different experiences and our embracing of them makes us a much more supportive group. We learn from each other rather than judge.

#23 Dylan's Mummy

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (~*Twilight~Zone*~ @ 08/11/2012, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rhymes with Dizzie Mall   wink.gif


And she claims she can "Save" your sleep.

#24 Guest_Maybelle_*

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (BubblyGal @ 08/11/2012, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really?

For god sake ladies, what a bunch of judgemental women!

As a first time Mum to be, I have been blown away by the judgement which goes on between Mums about sleeping/feeding/[insert any other aspect of parenting here].  

It is our right to choose and our right to decide what works best for us and our families and we should support each other in whatever decisions we chose to make.  

People talk about judgement and equality in the workplace...well, for someone who works in an industry which is often at the peak of this type of judgement, I have never witnessed anything like what I've seen on EB.

For the record, I have a number of girlfriends, all first time Mums who have delivered their babies different ways and who have made very different decisions on feeding and sleeping - our different experiences and our embracing of them makes us a much more supportive group. We learn from each other rather than judge.


I get what you are trying to say, but people shouldn't support each other in every decision, come what may.  What if someone decides that child abuse is what works for their family?  Would you really turn a blind eye to that?

Edited by Maybelle, 08 November 2012 - 05:57 PM.


#25 Guest_Dinah_Harris_*

Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:49 PM

I want to know why this woman appears by default on TV?  Why do they always choose her as their "expert"?
I saw her talking about toddlers who wouldn't sleep and kept coming into their parents rooms.  She actually advocated that parents lock their doors and turn off the hallway lights etc so that the toddler is stranded by him/herself in a dark house!   mad.gif




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