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#1 hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:28 AM

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JAMES Ashby's sexual harassment case against former Speaker Peter Slipper has been thrown out of court.

Judge Steven Rares this morning ordered that the application contains "scandalous" allegations and to continue the case would be "manifestly unfair" to Mr Slipper and that some of the claims were done to "injure" his reputation.

The former Speaker wanted the case, which was launched by Mr Ashby on April 20 this year, thrown out of court, saying it was an abuse of process designed to be "prejudicial" and "damaging" to him.

Mr Slipper did not have a lawyer represent him at a two-day hearing of the case in October but didn't come to the Federal Court in Sydney to hear this morning's decision.

It followed an unsuccessful day of mediation talks between the pair.

Mr Ashby has been ordered to pay Mr Slipper's legal cost.


http://www.news.com.au/national/james-ashb...t-1226535085206



#2 Lucretia Borgia

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:34 AM

Huh. Well put that in your pipe and smoke it tony abbot et al....

.....(still, there is something a little bit odd about him [slipper])

#3 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:36 AM

Wow. What the judge said indicates something very much like corruption. I won't hold my breath waiting for any follow up on that.

Does this mean Peter Slipper is free to assume the role of speaker again?

#4 hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:37 AM

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..(still, there is something a little bit odd about him [slipper])


Oh I totally agree.  But I thought this case was crap from the start before talking to anyone else or filing a case he spoke to the OPPOSITION it stank of a Liberal mud slinging attack because he defected.

#5 *Spikey*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:42 AM

Very interesting.... I think the judge totally nailed it.

So, unless there is anything outstanding to do with the cabcharges (and I think that was long since sorted), there is nothing to stop the ex-speaker from returning to work.

(to clarify, he isn't the speaker, so he'd be returning to the cross bench as an independent) rolleyes.gif

Edited by *Spikey*, 12 December 2012 - 10:10 AM.


#6 Lucretia Borgia

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (hayleymumof3 @ 12/12/2012, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I totally agree.  But I thought this case was crap from the start before talking to anyone else or filing a case he spoke to the OPPOSITION it stank of a Liberal mud slinging attack because he defected.

Totally...apparently Nicola Roxon has come out saying the opposition has "serious questions to answer" about the slipper case....ooooh! (Rubs hands in glee) things could get interesting.....and here I was thinking we were drifting into a patch of slow news days!

#7 Livsh

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

no. freaking. way.



#8 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

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Does this mean Peter Slipper is free to assume the role of speaker again?
  Wasn't he the one who sent those vile texts describing womens genitalia in the most vile way & had to resign?  So, no.  Don't think so.

#9 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:48 AM

http://www.news.com.au/national/revealed-w...9-1226492172640

Oh, he's a real charmer.

#10 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't he the one who sent those vile texts describing womens genitalia in the most vile way & had to resign?  So, no.  Don't think so.



Shellfish? Really that is the most vile and disgusting description of female genitalia?? Really?

In poor taste maybe and also under the presumption of privacy it wasn't a public statement FGS.
If we used that as a criteria for a pollie to do their jobs Tony Abbott would have  to have resigned years ago for poor taste statements he made in public



#11 *Spikey*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:56 AM

It was said in a private conversation with James Ashby. It was also presented out of context. That being said, it was a fairly gross thing to say to anyone, even a 'friend'.

But as no other parliamentarian has lost their job for private utterances, of a gross and crude kind, nor should he.

#12 Gudrun

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:58 AM

He can't return to the speaker's job as he resigned and Anna Burke is now the speaker.

Good judgement!

#13 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

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If we used that as a criteria for a pollie to do their jobs Tony Abbott would have to have resigned years ago for poor taste statements he made in public


I wish he would.

I don't think its too much to ask that our politicians don't behave like dirty little schoolboys, do you?



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But as no other parliamentarian has lost their job for private utterances, of a gross and crude kind, nor should he


He didn't lose his job!  He resigned.

Edited by stopwhiningatme, 12 December 2012 - 10:00 AM.


#14 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish he would.

I don't think its too much to ask that our politicians don't behaive like dirty little schoolboys, do you?


It's too much to expect them to not be proud misogynists, totally corrupt or to use their power to further their own financial interests over the interests of the people who voted for them.

If we set the bar too high, we are bound to be disappointed.

#15 *Spikey*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:09 AM

Stopwhining, you seem to be misinterpreting what I'm saying.

Peter Slipper resigned from the Speakers Position. Fact 1.

Peter Slipper did NOT resign from Parliament. Fact 2.

I'm saying that Peter Slipper should not lose his job (ie, parliamentary seat) as a result of private utterances - he's no longer the speaker and I'm well aware of that. I'm saying he should return to work. Probably on the cross benches, seeing he is an independent for now.

I understood from your earlier post that you consider Mr Slipper unwelcome in Parliament, as in 'he should lose his job', because its clear you understand that he is no longer the speaker and cannot resume that role (unless of course invited to do so).

And yes, I realised I left off an ex in one of my sentences in my earlier post. Will fix it for you.



#16 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:15 AM

Sorry, I see now. Yes I am misinterpreting what you said.  And I was responding to BB about his speakers position.

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Edited by stopwhiningatme, 12 December 2012 - 10:39 AM.


#17 mpjp

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

QUOTE (3Keiki @ 12/12/2012, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shellfish? Really that is the most vile and disgusting description of female genitalia?? Really?

In poor taste maybe and also under the presumption of privacy it wasn't a public statement FGS.
If we used that as a criteria for a pollie to do their jobs Tony Abbott would have to have resigned years ago for poor taste statements he made in public



I know plenty of gay men that 'privately' describe female genitalia as worse things than that! Who cares?

#18 epg

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

Troy Buswell sniffed a womans chair in parliament.  He is now state treasurer.  Surely that is worse behavior.

#19 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:33 AM

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I know plenty of gay men that 'privately' describe female genitalia as worse things than that! Who cares?


Are they elected members?  Then no, I don't care.

For the record, I'd care if Julia Gillard and Penny Wong exchanged texts about Tony Abbot's  'cheesy smegma' or Barnaby Joyce's tiny d*ck.  Something tells me they wouldn't, though.  Or Julie Bishop for that matter.



#20 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:34 AM

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Troy Buswell sniffed a womans chair in parliament. He is now state treasurer. Surely that is worse behavior
  Better?  Worse?  Who knows.  It's deplorable.  It needs to be made public.  It needs to be protested against.  It's wrong.

If you think it's ok, and not worthy of public comment, then fine.  I disagree.  Regardless of what side of politics they're on.

#21 BetteBoop

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are they elected members?  Then no, I don't care.

For the record, I'd care if Julia Gillard and Penny Wong exchanged texts about Tony Abbot's  'cheesy smegma' or Barnaby Joyce's tiny d*ck.  Something tells me they wouldn't, though.  Or Julie Bishop for that matter.


No. And I wonder what the public reaction would be like if they did.

#22 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:37 AM

Well, they'd just need a good root, wouldn't they?

#23 Relish*

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:44 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 12/12/2012, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, they'd just need a good root, wouldn't they?

Exactly. So glad to hear common bloody sense has prevailed, in this case, if only momentarily.

#24 hayleymumof3

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

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Better? Worse? Who knows. It's deplorable. It needs to be made public. It needs to be protested against. It's wrong.


My Bold it WAS made public http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/chair-s...9-1111116260465

The difference is he is a Liberal and Liberals don't get up in arms over things like this that THEIR PARTY members do.

#25 brangisnotaword

Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

Of course they don't.  I don't pretend for a minute that both parties don't pretty much act in their own interests when it comes to holding their members to account for the way they behave.  And when I said 'it' needs to be made public, I was talking about that kind of behaviour in general, not just that one particular incident.  Sorry I wasn't clear.

I'd love it if the public held our politicians to a much higher standard.

I remember the chair sniffing thing.  I was disgusted.  We don't stand for it in the workplace, we shouldn't stand for it in our politicians.

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In poor taste maybe and also under the presumption of privacy it wasn't a public statement FGS.
3K, Telecommunications class 101:  In your role as a politician, anything you send by email/text is discoverable.  So don't send mysoginistic shiz.

And for the record.  I thought the sexual harassment case was dodgy from the start.  But I stand by my comments about Slipper's texts.

Edited because I keep adding shiz.

Edited by stopwhiningatme, 12 December 2012 - 11:18 AM.





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