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DS has red spots on the roof of his mouth


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#1 Le-a

Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:35 AM

DS has been a bit "off" all week. It started on Monday with a runny nose, slight temp, unsettled sleeping, grizzly, and refusing food.

This morning when I was brushing his teeth I noticed dark spots on the roof of his mouth. Nothing on his tongue, and nothing on his hands and feet. There are a few spots around his mouth but they kind of look like the spots he gets when he has been dribbling lots (which he has).

He doesn't seem particulary unhappy, so I feel a bit dramatic taking him to the Dr. Plus, googling pics of Hand Foot and Mouth show more blisters, than just spots.

If your kids have had this, how did it start?

DS started daycare about three months ago and has been sick more often than not since, poor little dude.



#2 Le-a

Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:52 AM

I've had another look at his mouth, def full of red spots. Made a Dr appointment for in an hour (lucky!) so will see what he says.

#3 Elemenopee

Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:53 AM

For my boys, first they were very hot, tired, lethargic. The spots came within a few hours. They were  noticably ill, and slept for a couple hours in the middle of the day, uncharacteristically.
12 weeks later, their fingernails and toenails peeled off, which only happens with one particular strain of HFM.

#4 squirrel10

Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:54 AM

My DD had it a couple of weeks ago and it pretty much started as you describe but the blisters developed pretty quickly after that. So Sat afternoon she was really sleepy and a bit grizzly through the night. Sun morning she woke with a temp of about 38.5, didn't want much brekky and had a couple of red spots on her hands and feet. Temp went away with Nurofen.

Monday morning she woke up covered in a viral rash (including nappy rash) and about 10 blisters on her hands and feet and a couple of red spots around her mouth. Her temp was 38.8 and she refused BF and breakfast. Her temp lowered with Nurofen again. I took her to the GP that morning and she immediately diagnosed Hand, Foot and Mouth. The poor thing also had a couple on her throat which I could tell were really hurting her. She also had bad breath which was from the blisters on her throat.

After that she needed to be in quarantine until her blisters dried up because she was still contagious until then. By the Sunday (so a week in total) she was as right as rain and back eating and drinking again as normal.

She has also just started at daycare and has been constantly sick for the last couple of months so I feel your pain OP!

#5 Le-a

Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 19/12/2012, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's impossible to say. In my experience, it can present as nappy rash, but is actually HF&M.

Sometimes it's the more classic presentation of hand/foot/mouth blisters.


Interesting... He had TERRIBLE nappy rash (I thought it was thrush, all spotty) about two weeks ago. I will mention this to the Dr as well, see if it's related. Thanks for the tip.

#6 squirrel10

Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:58 AM

Interesting about the fingernails and toenails Elomenopee. The skin on the bottom of DD's toes and near her fingernail nail beds is peeling off and I thought it must be related to the HF&M.

Do you know if anything we can do about it?

Edited for grammar

Edited by squirrel10, 19 December 2012 - 12:00 PM.


#7 red_squirrel

Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

red spots in mouth could also be strep.
Best take him to the doc for a proper diagnosis.

#8 Le-a

Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

If anyone is interested- I took DS to the Dr, seems its just a viral rash. Glad I took him, but jeepers it seems like I'm at the Drs every week these days! Thanks daycare!

#9 Le-a

Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

Well colour me confused. I just looked at the soles of DS's feet and they are covered in red spots...

Any advice? (within EB rules, of course).

#10 Natttmumm

Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:57 PM

I would go back to the doc if you can. Does sound like hfm although there is nothing that they can do anyway.
I hope he is not in pain. When DD2 had it she was very unsettled - literally awake all night crying. It lasted about 5 days and slowly she got better.



#11 MacFeral

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:01 PM

If it isn't blistering I'd say it probably isn't hand foot and mouth. Keep an eye on it, make sure you keep fluids up and temps down and see how he is feeling in general. If it seems to get worse then head back to the GP.



#12 Le-a

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

I rang the Dr but they have closed for the day. DS was supposed to go to daycare tomorrow and Friday, but I just called them and they pretty much told me he couldn't come in based on the symptoms I described...

He seems to be ok, a bit clingy, and his feet are tender - I can tell because he's walking with his toes curled under. Also, he says "ow ow" when I touch the red spots.

Still no blisters though shrug.gif

#13 thespottedcat

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:38 PM

My daughter had it this year. Only affected her by little white spots on sides/tip of tongue and a couple of spots outside the mouth, along with grumpy toddler who refused her dummy (due to tenderness). Dr diagnosed HFM and pain relief.

I was surprised as other kids in my mother's grp developed the commonly seen blisters and that is what I had always thought of, guess it affects them all differently.

#14 libbylu

Posted 19 December 2012 - 07:44 PM

My adult BIL has hand foot and mouth at the moment - he has spots on his hands and feet and some mouth issues too.
For him it started as a fever and a sore throat.

#15 lozoodle

Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:36 PM

DD1 had it two years ago.

She had a random fever and was really unwell seeming for a day or two, and then all of a sudden fine. A few days later she started with pinprick spots on her toes, a couple on her hands and then a few blisters on her feet (barely there blisters). That was it with her.

DD2 had it last year, didnt seem overly unwell but I knew it was coming as we had been warned by a friend her little girl had it and theyd all been mouthing the same toys on the weekend at a party. Sure enough she got a few spots, and had the TERRIBLE spotty nappy. Hers were raised spots and appeared over a few days. only a few blistered, but she got them around her mouth, arms, hands, wrists, feet, and the nappy area. None IN her mouth.

A few weeks later her nails peeled off, just like PP had happen.

Some kids dont get spots in all three spots, some dont blister.

#16 MrsW87

Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:43 PM

DS2 Started as 1 blister on his foot. I thought it was from crawling. Then they just kept coming up. He was really lucky though and only got about 20 blisters all up. The weirdest part was, he was never unwell. He had 1 38 degree temp, which I thought was from me forgetting to open his window.

#17 Duck-o-lah

Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:48 PM

OP sounds like the way my DS presented with HF&M. Off colour and warm for a few days, then broke out in the rash. I first noticed the red spots on his feet. They never blistered though, and once the rash appeared his health improved. We excluded him from daycare until the spots cleared.

He passed it on to me and I copped a mouthful of blisters... extremely painful sad.gif Hope it doesn't get any worse for your DS sad.gif

#18 *maddierose*

Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:05 PM

My son had this last week.

He started out grizzly and then developed temps of 39+, the following day diagnosed with acute tonsilitis and also had dark red spots on the roof of his mouth.
The next day spots appeared as a viral rash up his arms and legs, then larger red spots developed on his feet, top and bottom and hands on his palm . He got only 3 spots around his mouth and lots on his bottom and around his testicles. Only 3 on his feet blistered and the ones on his bottom area.
He could not walk on his feet for 48hrs without crying in pain and hardly slept as he was uncomfortable.

To begin with the dr was reluctant to diagnose HFM as they were not the typical spots/ blisters. However ds was exposed as 13 children at my work developed it within days of each other. They all had different degrees of rash/blisters.

Many started as what looked like dribbling/dummy rash.

#19 FreeRangeMum

Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:49 PM

My DD and DS have both had it (a couple of times I think). Neither ever had 'blisters' as in fluid filled spots, but they both had raised red spots (started as flat red pinpricks), except in their mouths - they were b,isters/ulcers. DD had it the worst when she was 2! Over 30 blisters all inside her mouth and tongue and throat.

#20 FreeRangeMum

Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:51 PM

Something else to remember is that HFMD is really common and there's HEAPS of different strains (just like the common cold), which could account for peoples different experiences original.gif




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