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#1 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:21 PM

I have two compressed discs which have caused me on and off trouble over the years.  This time though I can't even sit down and even really strong pain killers are not helping that much. Went to the doctor and osteo today and I now have some drugs so that I can walk but I'm still in pain.  I have a CT scan on Monday.  I'm starting to get quite worried as to why I would be still in pain after ridiculous doses of meds.  Just wanting to know of other people's experiences. Should i be worried?  When you are in bed all day you have much time to conjure up worst case scenario situations. sad.gif

#2 *Lena*

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

Prob isn't it if it isn't stopping at all (my longest was 8 hours I think) but I was just like that when I was have gall attacks. It was all in my back not in the front like normal.

#3 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:27 PM

Mine is lower back and buttocks and radiating down through my legs.


#4 starsg

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:31 PM


sad.gif you poor thing, I've had similar pain from bulging/compressed discs and it is excruciating. Aside from osteo, I've found acupuncture to be fantastic relief when the pain is very acute. Your physio/osteo has probably already said this but core/abdominal strength is so important for preventing future episodes, so when you're feeling better something like regular Pilates/swimming might really help. Hope the scan doesn't reveal anything more sinister, and you're feeling better soon original.gif

#5 JRA

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

My disc was c6/c7 so a lot higher. Worst case scenario was surgery to remove disc. The most wonderful, incredible surgery, went from in hospital unable to move and on every drug known to mankind, to no pain, in 5 hours.

Good luck, I hope it improves.

#6 wilding

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:35 PM

I am in a similar situation, I have always had back and joint pain growing up. Middle to late last year it all got worse. Nothing worked, I was told it was all in my head and nothing wrong. Nothing wrong yet, I have a lot of trouble walking, sitting, using my hands especially the right one etc etc. I had all these things running through my head at the time, I was worried I had a mini stroke or MS. At 30, I was like what the?  

I had an x-ray done in November finally for constant midthoracic pain and found out I have moderate thoracic kyphosis and mild thoracolumbar scoliosis (maximum curvature of my T10) and moderate degenerative change suggesting previous Scheuermann's disease.

Now I do a range of special back exercies several times a day and take 6 panadol osteo. I also get cupping done once a month. I'm no longer allowed to work in child care and have a lot of other limitations.

I do feel for you and hope you get some answers soon.

Edited by wilding, 02 January 2013 - 09:37 PM.


#7 JRA

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

just to add: for me the disc and surgery, although I wrote as worst case scenario, was far from what DH was thinking. I had had breast cancer 12 mths earlier, so there were a lot worse scenarios running through his head

It is scary when you don't know what is happening.

#8 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

Thanks starsg.  I am quite fit actually but should pay more attention to my core strength which is quite weak in comparison to the rest of my body.  JRA I thought that surgery was quite serious and last resort. Was your recovery and down time quite minimal.  I'm starting to lean towards the surgery option especially if it is not as  invasive as I thought.

#9 JRA

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

i have a feeling the surgery for high up is less trouble than lower back. Given a friend and I have had the neck one quite easily, and a school mum had down in her lumbar region and it seemed a lot bigger deal.

It was last resort, I had a week in hospital on complete bed rest so they could get enough drugs in to me, and see if that would help. It didn't. Only after a week of complete bed rest to help would they do the surgery. The recovery for me was quite easy, I couldn't carry ANYTHING for 6 weeks, other than that it was easy. Given I had been through chemo 12mths earlier, the surgery recovery seemed a walk in the park.

#10 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

Sorry wilding.  Just read your post after I posted previously.  What an ordeal for you. What is:  

QUOTE
moderate thoracic kyphosis and mild thoracolumbar scoliosis (maximum curvature of my T10) and moderate degenerative change suggesting previous Scheuermann's disease.


What does this mean for you?

#11 BadCat

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

I had pain such that I could barely get out of bed for months.  I couldn't sit.  I couldn't walk without crying and using a walking stick to stop me from collapsing when my legs would give out every so often.  It was due to disc issues in my lower back after a horse riding accident.  Regular large doses of various drugs didn't even take the edge off for the first couple of weeks.  It was nothing sinister.  It was just that everything was in spasm all the time and every time I would move I would squinch the disc again and cause more pain.

The upshot is that after months of ultrasound therapy and gentle chiropractic massage and adjustments I could walk again.  I was not pain free for about 15 years.  Then I discovered latex mattresses and now I have no low back pain most of the time.

I hope you find a solution for your own situation soon.  Back pain is the pits.

Edited by BadCat, 02 January 2013 - 09:47 PM.


#12 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:52 PM

Bloody hell Badcat!!! 15 years!!!  You poor thing.  I am depressed after only a few weeks.  It's horrible.  For me it is sitting down.  Can feel great and think I am on the mend but if I sit down for more than two minutes I can't straighten my back again without enormous pain.  After trying every drug known to man I'm finding celebrex (sp?) mixed with a double dose of  panadiene forte allows me to walk.

#13 wilding

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE (censura carnero @ 02/01/2013, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry wilding.  Just read your post after I posted previously.  What an ordeal for you. What is:  



What does this mean for you?


Nah cool CC, big words I know.

The kyphosis causes a hunch in my shoulders. It's the curvature of the upper spine. Think hunch back haha. Over the past year and a bit, I've lost roughly 2cm from it. The scheuermann's disease is more common in teenage males.

My scoliosis is where the middle section curves. It looks like http://www.scoliosis-australia.org/scolios..._scoliosis.html but add in the shoulders hunched and you have me pretty much.



#14 wilding

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE (censura carnero @ 02/01/2013, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After trying every drug known to man I'm finding celebrex (sp?) mixed with a double dose of  panadiene forte allows me to walk.


I hope celebrex works for you, I can't take it. I couldn't keep anything down when I took it, only lasted a month on it  unsure.gif

#15 BadCat

Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:58 PM

Well it wasn't full on excruciating for the whole 15 years.  laughing2.gif  It was pretty much a case of knowing you will be in at least some pain most days and you just kind of get used to it.  I have mostly pain free days now.  It's much nicer.  original.gif

#16 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (wilding @ 02/01/2013, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah cool CC, big words I know.

The kyphosis causes a hunch in my shoulders. It's the curvature of the upper spine. Think hunch back haha. Over the past year and a bit, I've lost roughly 2cm from it. The scheuermann's disease is more common in teenage males.

My scoliosis is where the middle section curves. It looks like http://www.scoliosis-australia.org/scolios..._scoliosis.html but add in the shoulders hunched and you have me pretty much.


Can you do anything for it wilding?  I have mild scoliosis. Not sure if it's related to this back pain or not actually.  How do you feel about your condition?  THat must be an incredibly difficult thing to deal with.

#17 censura carnero

Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (BadCat @ 02/01/2013, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it wasn't full on excruciating for the whole 15 years.  laughing2.gif  It was pretty much a case of knowing you will be in at least some pain most days and you just kind of get used to it.  I have mostly pain free days now.  It's much nicer.  original.gif


Great to hear badcat.  ANy triggers for you or ways of preventing bad back attacks?

#18 wilding

Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (censura carnero @ 02/01/2013, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can you do anything for it wilding?  I have mild scoliosis. Not sure if it's related to this back pain or not actually.  How do you feel about your condition?  THat must be an incredibly difficult thing to deal with.


EB not responded part way through when I was typing  rolleyes.gif

I've never really talked about it other than with my job service provider and the links through them.

How am I coping with it? I guess, I just am. If I crumble I have no one to look after my son. My first thought was whatelse is the world going to throw at me? I had been diagnosed with melanoma a couple of weeks before the end of term 3 year. My mental health at the time wasn't that great either. I was seeing a social worker at centrelink a nd she recommended that I talk to a physcologist (spellings wrong sorry) about the pain. I found that interesting using it in a different way then I have before.

But, what doesn't break you makes you stronger.

For what they can do? I was told they couldn't do much about it. It may possibly get worse as I get older. I got told the usual exercise, physio and lots of it, stretches and lots of those, pain medication. No heavy lifting etc. I would like to work. I'm on newstart and do cringe when I say or write it because I know how people react.

I will put my hand up and say I do feel some anger towards mum occassionally. I feel if she gave a damn, it would of been picked up earlier most likely.

I'm going to leave it at that and get ready to head off to bed otherwise i'm going to eat the whole 2nd pack of white snowdrops  huh.gif and I think i'm rambling now, i'm talking aloud as I write this post.

#19 Feral Nicety

Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

CC if travelling to Brisbane is an option, PM me.  DH had a horrific bad back spasm issue and saw someone who fixed it.  It might be worth a phone call to discuss it with the doctor.

#20 Soontobegran

Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:53 PM

I have had 2 friends recently have surgery for bulging discs and sciatica, one is 28 and the other is 55 and they were in agony for months, they had both tried every type of treatment possible. They both had a new procedure of disc surgery which has replaced the old fashioned disectomy and laminectomy and it was done by a neurosurgeon. They were in hospital for 24 hours and did rehab daily for 2 weeks and both now (3 months and 6 months later) are brilliant and completely pain free. The younger one is running around after her 2 and 4 year olds.
I will try and find a link that explains the process, if not I will get them to tell me tomorrow.

http://www.surgeons.org/media/294179/PELDconsum0600.pdf



Edited by soontobegran, 02 January 2013 - 10:59 PM.


#21 Guest_LeChatNinjah_*

Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:48 PM

I have chronic low-grade back pain every day, that escalates to excruciating if I twist, turn or pick up something at the wrong angle.  This is mostly resulting from scoliosis, bad neck curvature and borked feet and ankles.

This carries through to foot, knee and hip pain, which has gotten worse over the last 20 years, also varying depending on activity, but I've found that you just adapt, excruciating pain excepted.

Well, even excruciating can be tamed down with stretching, anti-inflammatories and heaps of pain killers, but those often dull the other senses.

Far out, I guess I probably just cope however I can.  Sometimes it's with ice, heat, prescription drugs, non-prescription drugs, exercise - it all varies.

I wish there was a one-answer-meets-all solution, because I often have to try all of the above until I find one that works.  But even if I don't find one that works fully I find one that alleviates the pain a bit, and I just get on with it.

And that's not meant to sound all martyr like, it's just that you do what you have to do to get through it and your body can often start to cope with the pain.  But it can take a while.

I hope you find a solution, I so do. And if you do, please share it!



#22 peach*face

Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:54 AM

Op I know exactly the kind of pain you mean it is awful and doesn't go away. I had the exact same thing for a year straight and went to see a Neuro surgeon in Sydney with a ct scan. He said my bottom disc had burst and offered the same surgery soon to be gran mentioned. It's key hole surgery and they essentially remove the disc that is pressing on the nerve. It gave mediate relief. it cost a lot of money though upwards of 7000 dollars as I wasn't insured. They do put you on a waiting list but it takes over a year if you go through Medicare so I opted to pay upfront.
I feel bad for you sad.gif it really is horrible. but if you get the Op it is immediate relief. pm if you need. I'm on my phone and it's too hard to type a huge post atm.
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#23 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:14 AM

I damaged a disc in my lower back about two years ago.  I still get mild pain off and on, to the level of 'discomfort' if I am in one position for too long - and standing still is excruciating.

I have a sports physio who specialises in treating these kind of things (yes, it was a sporting injury if boot camp can be regarded as sporting). She then sent me to pilates class with another physio, who works carefully through exercises designed to turn on and strengthen my core. Since doing that, I haven't had a single episode where it has been retriggered (think unable to move for one or two days, despite painkillers, limited movement for next two weeks or so). Hallelujah moment for me.

Oh, and Voltaren rapids 25 are my friend. They really do knock out the inflammation, which speeds up the recovery no end!

#24 MarthaJones

Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:05 PM

I had back surgery 10 weeks ago for a disc protrusion in my lower back.
The only thing I could do was lay down and was on strong drugs. Had major weakness in my left leg, major pain.
Went into hospital at 11am and was pain free by 2pm. Stayed over night and was home the next day. Walked up and down the street for a week getting further each time and now I feel wonderful. Doing Pilates twice a week for core strength and losing weight to help from hurting it again.

It was my last resort too. Did Physio,Chiro and nothing helped.
Worse case was both my brother and sister have had the same surgery and my brother has no feeling in his right leg (15yrs ago) and my sister had her's done 3 yrs ago and she is still in a lot of pain but I seriously put that down to her not doing as she was told and she gained weight (Was already obese).

#25 ♥~Bodhichitta~♥

Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (JRA @ 02/01/2013, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My disc was c6/c7 so a lot higher. Worst case scenario was surgery to remove disc. The most wonderful, incredible surgery, went from in hospital unable to move and on every drug known to mankind, to no pain, in 5 hours.

Good luck, I hope it improves.


My boss had the same problem, and also had surgery.  He was reliant on painkillers, and still in the most horrendous amount of pain.  Up until the surgery.  Now he's a new man  original.gif




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