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#1 Lyra

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

I could put this in venting but I won't because I figure most people either don't realise or don't really think. And, I had my little huffy moment with my husband when I got home. And again with my son's respite worker LOL

So, here it is:

If you see a sign on the back of a car or van that says 'please leave 3 metres' and has a wheelchair symbol next to said sign then please, please leave 3 metres. Not sure if you've left enough room? Then leave a bit more. Whatever you do, please don't park right up my bum. How am I supposed to get the ramp down and then get the wheelchair into the van if you have parked up my bum? That's right, I can't

This happened to me today and I am so very lucky that the front of my car was near the entrance of an alley and I was able to move forward slightly. This was not ideal as it meant that

a) I had to leave my children on the footpath while I did this
b) I got abused by someone trying to get out the alley while I was getting my son into the car

I feel better now biggrin.gif


#2 casime

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

Whilst I agree with you, I will suggest that there are times that the signs on those vehicles are not very obvious.  I parked next to a tarago which had a sticker on the side of the car (next to the door handle, not on the window) asking for room to be left, but since they were on the passenger side of my vehicle, and it was below the window level of my car (large 4wd) I got out of my car and went in to the shops completely oblivious to the sticker until I was paged to return to my car and got abused by a woman wanting to get a passenger in.  I was very apologetic and embarrassed, but there was simply no way to see it unless I actually went around to the passenger side of my car.  Anyone that knows me knows that I'm the type to tell off someone parking in a disabled space without a sticker, so was hardly blocking her car on purpose.  

As someone who gets tunnel vision at shopping centres as I hate them so much, please make sure that we can't miss your stickers so we can leave you enough room.

And I agree with Twilight Zone: the person that told you off is an *^&^$*#%.

Edited by casime, 09 January 2013 - 03:24 PM.


#3 opethmum

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

Oh my, what a tosser.

Call centre security or management to have their car towed if some one is too close, that'll teach them!


#4 Liadan

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:28 PM

I always make sure I leave plenty of room behind vehicles with those signs.

IMO, if you park too close, then it's your own fault if you end up with a damaged car.

Some people are arrogant a-holes. The same ones that prop in the disabled parking while they run inside to buy a packet of ciggies (I see this all the time where I work).

#5 lozoodle

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:32 PM

That is so crappy that someone abused you!

That said, I usually park in a rush and I may not even notice the sticker. I would definitely move if I did notice it, but I honestly don't pay that much attention to cars parked in front of me.

#6 Guest_~Karla~_*

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Oh man, that sucks big time Lyra. Seriously, how hard is it to miss a sticker like that on the BACK of a vehicle that you have parked BEHIND? What a w*n*er. And as for the a-hole that abused you while you were trying to get your boy in the car, well they can go and do things I'm not allowed to type to themselves.

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#7 Lyra

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (lozoodle @ 09/01/2013, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is so crappy that someone abused you!

That said, I usually park in a rush and I may not even notice the sticker. I would definitely move if I did notice it, but I honestly don't pay that much attention to cars parked in front of me.


That's why I made this a public service announcement LOL I don't think people do notice so I would like people to try and be a bit more mindful original.gif  I probably didn't notice all these things before either!

Casime, I see where you are coming from but my van has a very big sticker on the back of the van. It's pretty obvious. FWIW if the person had come back I would not have abused them but politely pointed out the sticker

And the person who abused me just got a friendly wave from me, my daughter and my son (with my help)

#8 Lyra

Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (opethmum @ 09/01/2013, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh my, what a tosser.

Call centre security or management to have their car towed if some one is too close, that'll teach them!



I would have done but I was parked on a side street. I actually parked further away on the side street to avoid this kind of problem as I thought it was more likely that I would have issues parking on a busy main road

#9 heffalumpsnwoozles

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:04 PM

I think another problem is that people don't actually realise how much 3 metres is. It might be easier if it was in more daily-use terms (eg, please leave a car length). Older people who grew up using feet and inches especially have trouble estimating metres.

#10 Lyra

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (heffalumpsnwoozles @ 09/01/2013, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think another problem is that people don't actually realise how much 3 metres is. It might be easier if it was in more daily-use terms (eg, please leave a car length). Older people who grew up using feet and inches especially have trouble estimating metres.



My husband thought this too. He did say 'you should have left them a note three metres long'



#11 Poss and Soss

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (heffalumpsnwoozles @ 09/01/2013, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think another problem is that people don't actually realise how much 3 metres is. It might be easier if it was in more daily-use terms (eg, please leave a car length). Older people who grew up using feet and inches especially have trouble estimating metres.

Our council has a van with a rear-load wheelchair ramp. They have a metal retractable tape measure screwed to the side of their bumper bar so you can pull the tape out and measure.

#12 Leggy

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE
Get one of those safety cones and place it 3 metres behind your van.


I like the general idea, but I'd give it about 5 minutes before someone walked off with it :S

#13 lozoodle

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (Lyra @ 09/01/2013, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's why I made this a public service announcement LOL I don't think people do notice so I would like people to try and be a bit more mindful original.gif  I probably didn't notice all these things before either!

Casime, I see where you are coming from but my van has a very big sticker on the back of the van. It's pretty obvious. FWIW if the person had come back I would not have abused them but politely pointed out the sticker

And the person who abused me just got a friendly wave from me, my daughter and my son (with my help)

biggrin.gif id definitely leave room if i saw it, so now i will be more aware in future

#14 Lyra

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE (Poss and Soss @ 09/01/2013, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our council has a van with a rear-load wheelchair ramp. They have a metal retractable tape measure screwed to the side of their bumper bar so you can pull the tape out and measure.


that is an awesome idea!

QUOTE (lozoodle @ 09/01/2013, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
biggrin.gif id definitely leave room if i saw it, so now i will be more aware in future


thank you xx


#15 luke's mummu

Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

Oh yeah and if you have a disabled parking permit you can park in the "3 minute drop off zone" only at our school. So don't get out of your car to abuse the parent!

#16 Frockme

Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

I never read stickers on cars ever, let alone when parking. I assume all bumpers say "show me your tits" or something else as articulate.  unsure.gif  I'd like to think I'd notice a wheelchair sticker though...

I will endeavour to look more closely next time!  original.gif

Are cars with wheelchair access at the back generally bigger than average, some other sign that they are rear wheelchair accessible? I need many clues!  wink.gif

I do like the traffic cone idea, just chain it to the bumper! Hopefully some a*se won't just move it and still park there.

Edited by Malaya, 09 January 2013 - 05:02 PM.


#17 snuffles

Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

Thankyou, always good to be reminded of these things.  original.gif



#18 ~sydblue~

Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:46 PM

Maybe the person who parked behind you didn't realise you had whoever needed the wheelchair with you, as you parked in a normal parking spot.(or that was the impression I got).
I know DH has parked further back due to noticing a car has a sticker. I don't drive.


#19 FeralBob!

Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (Lyra @ 09/01/2013, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My husband thought this too. He did say 'you should have left them a note three metres long'

This is where toilet paper would come in handy original.gif

Gobsh*te that abused you  mad.gif

#20 Lyra

Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Malaya @ 09/01/2013, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are cars with wheelchair access at the back generally bigger than average, some other sign that they are rear wheelchair accessible? I need many clues!  wink.gif


They don't tend to look out of the ordinary. A tarago or a kia Carnival can be converted but ours is a little van. But it definitely has an identifiable sticker. Also, you can actually see the ramp through the rear view windows as well

QUOTE (~sydblue~ @ 09/01/2013, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe the person who parked behind you didn't realise you had whoever needed the wheelchair with you, as you parked in a normal parking spot.(or that was the impression I got).
I know DH has parked further back due to noticing a car has a sticker. I don't drive.



I parked in a normal spot because I was parking on a side street. If I had the option of parking in a disabled spot I would have. True, maybe the person assumed that I didn't have my son with me but really, it would be nice if they assumed that, in fact, the wheelchair tends to go with the car.

I thank your husband for paying attention to the signs.

#21 JRA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (luke's mummu @ 09/01/2013, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah and if you have a disabled parking permit you can park in the "3 minute drop off zone" only at our school. So don't get out of your car to abuse the parent!

Is that normal, I didn't realise that? I thought it would just give you 6 minutes - twice the normal time

i stopped doing school pickups as it was impossible for me to walk to do the  pick up as there is no disabled parking.

#22 Guest_LeChatNinjah_*

Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

JRA, could you not apply to the school or council to have one put in?  Surely they have some sort of obligation to ensure that you can pick up your son!



#23 VioletRose

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

It would be a shame if you didn't notice the front of the other car when you dropped the ramp, would have made an awful mess of their bonnet.  ph34r.gif
Sounds like you are bringing up your kids to be very polite  biggrin.gif

#24 Agent*Anon99

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE (JRA @ 09/01/2013, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that normal, I didn't realise that? I thought it would just give you 6 minutes - twice the normal time

i stopped doing school pickups as it was impossible for me to walk to do the  pick up as there is no disabled parking.


In SA a disabled parking permit in any timed park will give you 2 hours on top of what the time displayed shows. Not sure about other states

#25 JRA

Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Agent*Anon99 @ 09/01/2013, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In SA a disabled parking permit in any timed park will give you 2 hours on top of what the time displayed shows. Not sure about other states

In vic, it is twice the time of the sign

LeCatNijah: they did have one disabled park near the office, which is miles away from the juinor school.

They have now added a single disabled park which a grandparent parks in from 2.45 every day. (she has a permit). What makes it worse is if someone else with a disabled permit parks in it, she then parks illegally near the school crossing.

It worked fine for Dh to do the pickups, and if we both do them, he drops me off and then parks.

Now we just go late and pick him up from the drive through area .




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