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#1 Forum Moderator

Posted 05 October 2014 - 11:36 AM

New thread time ladies. Here's the link to your old thread.


#2 imme

Posted 05 October 2014 - 12:19 PM

Gold!  :D

Edited by imme, 15 October 2014 - 11:53 PM.

#3 AB30

Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:25 PM


Imme... There has been no explanation given for my last 2 losses (chemical pregnancies)... I'm still waiting for af to appear- been spotting for a few days now... When I ring the clinic to start my next round I will ask if my treatment will be changed in light of this recent loss... I'm not sure if the nurses will give me much info and my next dr appt isn't until mid November.... Totally peeved as I had an appt booked for the day after I got a bfp. But the nurse cancelled it due to bfp.... Argh still feeling very angry....

#4 imme

Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:23 AM

I don't blame you for feeling angry, AB  :(  I really hope you will be able to get some answers very soon.

Edited by imme, 15 October 2014 - 11:53 PM.

#5 SugarGirl

Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:16 AM

So - had my scan to see how many follicles were made from my first round of injectables before IUI!!  Gess how many.......................7!!
My doc scanned me a few times hoping that a few wouldnt mature, but all but 1 little one have...........so this cycle has been cancelled as Dr doesnt want risk of multis......very sad and frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#6 imme

Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:11 AM

Oh bugger, Sugar.  How disappointing  :(

What dosage were you on?  Guess they'll be dropping that back quite a bit for next time!

I've had a blood test today to get beta and progesterone results, should hopefully get a call back some time this afternoon.  Fingers crossed the numbers are good as I've had quite dark positive pregnancy tests so far and the last of the pregnyl was 5 days ago so should be mostly, if not all, clear.

Edited by imme, 15 October 2014 - 11:53 PM.

#7 SugarGirl

Posted 13 October 2014 - 03:16 PM

I was on FSH for 10 days, 75 for the first 2 days, then 50 for the rest.  At least my ovaries are working well!  haha
But very dissapointing indeed!  Its just so much time and emotions being wasted!
Oh well........moving onto next month now!  xx

#8 imme

Posted 13 October 2014 - 05:43 PM

Yep, so much waiting at each stage and then a cancellation just sucks! But like you said, at least you know you respond great Posted Image

My beta hcg came back as 279 so looks like I'm pregnant Posted Image retest again next Monday just to be sure levels are rising as they should.

Edited by imme, 15 October 2014 - 11:53 PM.

#9 AB30

Posted 14 October 2014 - 10:33 PM

Great news imme!!

I've just started another round of Clomid... My fs is on leave and the nurse has said that there prob won't be changes to my treatment this cycle as he is on leave... This doesn't leave me feeling hopeful...

Hsg tomorrow...

Have been to my gp too who has suggested I need to go to another clinic as things are getting a bit more complex... The clinic she has suggested I can't get in until February... Sigh

#10 SugarGirl

Posted 15 October 2014 - 11:48 AM

Thats the worst thing for me!!  The waiting!!!  Wait until next month..........etc!!  PAIN IN THE BUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#11 imme

Posted 15 October 2014 - 03:33 PM

Thanks AB! Posted Image

I hope that this cycle surprises you and will be the lucky one so there's no waiting until February. Fingers crossed!

Edited by imme, 15 October 2014 - 11:52 PM.

#12 AB30

Posted 15 October 2014 - 09:05 PM

Agree re waiting- I'm so impatient!!

#13 SugarGirl

Posted 16 October 2014 - 08:42 AM

So now a friend from work has told me that she is 9 weeks pregnant - on the first month trying!  Fantastic!
I try to be happy for her, but its hard!!  Especially when I know her growing belly is going to be shoved in my face every day!!!!!

#14 ktemma

Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:37 PM

Super news Imme! Fx it all goes according to plan x Sugargirl... I feel for you ! The only consolation I can give ( that doesn't work for me :( ) is that given your age... You WILL get there one way or another!! Keep believing that!
I went out last weekend to get a break from being stuck at home all the time, and there were babies and pregnant mothers EVERYWHERE! It's like life is just shoving your face in it. At the cafe there was a new born being breast fed in front of me, and when I escaped to the park, there was a family on a bench where they were reading a baby book to a toddler, explaining how there was a baby in mummy's tummy growing... And that soon he would have a baby sister .... Just the sort of conversation I needed to hear, not.
Still waiting for an appt for my op to see if my uterus is actually viable for a pregnancy... Apparently I'm only listed as 'routine ' , so plenty of other people are on the list above me with greater priority. Initially I was told end of Oct, but looks like much longer than that...sigh.
First acupuncture appt on sat .... Originally intended to help with my fertility, but I guess that's on hold til after op.... So now it will be for bloody crisis management and meltdown reversal :(((. Bugger to all of it!

#15 imme

Posted 18 October 2014 - 02:59 PM

Thanks ktemma  :) I hope your acupuncture appointment today goes well and that it at least helps you to relax some.  I always find I'm soooooo tired afterwards and need to sleep.Fingers crossed your appointment for your operation comes very soon.

Edited by imme, 22 October 2014 - 12:55 PM.

#16 Elsie4321

Posted 20 October 2014 - 02:42 AM

Hi Ladies,

I'm on my third cycle of Gonal F and Ovidrel and hoping this is it, as my specialist is only willing to try 3 OI/TI cycles before moving on to IVF/ICSI and there's no way possible we can afford that. We have both male and female fertility issues.

We have 3 children and none have come easily, but each one of them is completely worth the effort and the years of heartache to get there :) . I am forever thankful for the children we have and I know we're so blessed. Each of our miracles have defied the odds at every stage to be here today and I'm so very grateful (even when they won't clean their rooms ;) )

I never would have expected this, but I'm finding TTC this baby just as heartwrenching as it was to TTC our first, which doesn't make sense. I feel like my heart is in my throat all the time, waiting for the next blood test, next ultrasound, next something. I think because my specialist really doesn't think the OI/TI will work and because this cycle is quite possibly our last ever chance to have another baby. Out of time, out of money, out of energy.

I hope this isn't too bold for a newbie, but I know that not everyone here already has a child even after years of trying. Even though I have living children, I remember so vividly what that felt like and I feel for you. It's such a hard time and with the first there's always that nagging thought "maybe I can't ever have even have a baby", we thought that and were told that by everyone, but eventually it did happen and we got 8lbs of wonderful. I hope and pray that all of you, but especially those waiting to hold their first baby in their arms get their BFP very soon.

Thanks for reading,


#17 Vanilla_bean

Posted 20 October 2014 - 10:58 AM

Hi everyone,

This is my first post on this forum and I'm looking forward to getting to know you all a bit better.

I've been trying for 18 months and have never had a BFP. Started seeing a FS in April this year. All my tests have come back normal. My only problems are my age, I'm 38, and an irregular cycle which according to the specialist meant that even though I was ovulating on my own they were probably immature eggs and not viable.

DH has below average sperm count and pretty bad motility and morphology. He has two boys from a previous marriage, youngest is 17 so it was a while ago but I wasn't expecting any problems from his side so that was hard news to take.

I'm currently on my fifth round of clomid and now ovulate like clockwork. A week ago I was so sure I was pregnant. It was the first time ever that I felt that way. I've had moments before when I've thought maybe I am but this time I was 95% sure. I'm totally heartbroken that I was wrong.

We still haven't decided if we will try IVF or not. The specialist told us that it's really our best bet and we only have a below average chance of conceiving with clomid given the male factor problems but she was absolutely supportive of us giving it a go. She said its like a football team missing a few players. They can still go on to win the game they just have to work a bit harder to get there.

She also suggested I could have a very gentle D and C just to stimulate new lining. Has anyone had this done? Or heard of it helping? I'm leaning towards giving it a go. It would mean a month off from trying and while I hate missing an opportunity I'd like a bit of time out from this rollercoaster.

Sorry for such a long post and thanks for listening.

#18 AB30

Posted 21 October 2014 - 10:13 PM

Hi Elsie and vanilla bean,

I don't really have any advice to offer but "I hear you" especially when considering having to have a month off (post d and c)... A month is such a long time!! And my months are longer too 35+ day cycles...

I'm doing my second round of Clomid  have had an us today- 2 large follicles and 1 small... Follow up us on Thursday... I'm getting anxious if this cycle is unsuccessful... Our next fs appt isn't until mid nov so according to my dates I would have started another cycle by then so either doing oi again or having a month off whilst waiting for dr appt... Unhappy about having to wait so long Inbetween apps for a dr I don't even think is that great!! Waaaaa

#19 Elsie4321

Posted 22 October 2014 - 01:22 AM

Vanilla Bean, I'm sorry about your BFN, it's hard enough to keep BFNs, but it's that much harder when you feel certain it's positive. It can feel similar to an early pregnancy loss. I feel for you having never had a BFP & I hope it is just around the corner! :)

AB30, I'm hoping you'll get your BFP so you won't need to worry about whether to do another cycle before your appointment or not. This whole process is just full of difficult decisions! I'm looking forward to reading how this cycle goes :)

I got my blood tests back yesterday and my E2 was under 300 on CD 10 after 9 days of injections. More bloods on Thursday and hopefully they'll show that some follies have jumped on board. I'm hoping for 2-3 good eggs because our chance of success with just 1 egg is rock bottom.

#20 Vanilla_bean

Posted 22 October 2014 - 10:43 AM

Thanks AB30 and Elsie. hugs to you both.

AB30 - do you have an ultrasound each time you take clomid? All I was asked to do was have the  day 21 progesterone blood test to check if I ovulated. The Dr seemed satisfied that I am ovulating and I guess that's the whole aim of clomid. Just wondering if there would be any other benefits to getting an ultrasound if the drug is doing its job. I know lots of other women get them each time and I feel like I'm missing out on something but don't really want to get it done if it won't tell me anything new.

Elsie - what is E2? Even after all this time of research, appointments and tests I still have so much to learn.

Question for all clomid takers - I've often read on forums that taking the drug later in the cycle is more likely to give you one good follicle and earlier in the cycle gives you lots of follicles but not necessarily as good. Just wondering if anyone has actually been told this by their FS or seen evidence of it from their ultrasounds? I totally forgot to ask at my last appointment.

#21 imme

Posted 22 October 2014 - 12:59 PM

Just popping back in  :)

Vanillabean - I'm wondering if you've given IUI a go?  You say you've got MFI as well so perhaps this might be something to consider as it helps the sperm get much, much closer to where they need to be.  Just might be the extra boost needed rather than going straight to ICSI if you wanted to give it a go.

#22 AB30

Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:29 PM

Vanilla bean, yes multiple ultrasounds per cycle just before ovulating to make sure I haven't made too many follicles...

#23 AB30

Posted 23 October 2014 - 01:45 PM

Had my us this morning, have made 5 big follicles... Too many to think my cycle will be cancelled :-(

Fs rv isn't until next cycle will be well and truly started... Not sure I'm willing to invest the emotions, energy and $$ into another back to back round without seeing our dr in between to address the issues that we have discovered... Thin linings, another preg loss.... Sigh

#24 Vanilla_bean

Posted 23 October 2014 - 04:44 PM

Imme - our FS said we'd have the best chance with IVF or ICSI and said to skip trying IUI. I guess because I've got problems too it's less likely to work for us.

AB30 - hugs. This journey is so hard and so painfully slow.

I'm anxiously waiting the results of DH's second SA. If it's worse than last time there isn't much point in taking clomid. If it's about the same or better I think I will go ahead with the D and C. Hope to get them tomorrow.

I felt so down yesterday. Not sure if the clomid had anything to do with it. I haven't felt moody on any other cycle. I'm also getting really bad hot flushes at night. Haven't had those before either.

Has anyone noticed symptoms get worse the longer you take it?

#25 AB30

Posted 23 October 2014 - 09:35 PM

Vanilla bean, good luck with the sa results- fingers crossed!! I think this cycle of Clomid I had less side effects. I started taking maca as well which may have helped....

My cycle has been cancelled- 5 big follicles... But I've got an earlier appt to see my fs next week :-)

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