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#1 kirkar

Posted 30 May 2016 - 04:40 PM

Hi there,
I was just wondering if anyone has used eggs from overseas, eg: The World Egg Bank, and have had the transfer performed here? A clinic I went to, Demeter Fertility, does this process, as it is expensive I was just wondering if anyone had had any success using this form of egg donation?

Thanks :yes:

#2 DelightAC

Posted 30 May 2016 - 08:10 PM

Hi,
We've used World Egg Bank. We purchased 8 eggs and only two formed viable embryos. 7 of the 8 fertilized but soon most died. The donor was only 23 so we were very disappointed. The first transfer failed and we have one left. Overall we will have spent about $40K to date or thereabouts.

In hindsight, finding a known donor who could provide many more eggs than 7-8 at a far reduced price would have been a far better option. Having said that, it is difficult to find someone prepared to donate unless you know someone already you can ask. With IVF you just need a lot of eggs to have a best chance and the World Egg Bank give you so little.

My advice is think very carefully. IVF is no guarantee. The success rate for IVF world egg bank is 35%. It will be heart breaking if this last attempt fails but I am prepared for either outcome.

Best of luck in your decision!

#3 kirkar

Posted 31 May 2016 - 12:12 PM

Dear DelightAC,

Thanks so much for your reply, sorry to hear that about your experience, we are told by the "experts" that younger eggs have a huge success rate, this is obviously not the case. I came to this forum for some honest answers from women who have been through the painful process. I feel this is the best way to get the knowledge we need to make these life changing decisions. My clinic told me basically, you get a young donor egg & bam, you are pregnant, i wish these clinics would be more honest before we spend thousands of dollars!!!!

I have heard from women who say going to South Africa is cheaper & has a high success rate, im not aware of the figures but it is something else to think of? Im not sure what I will do, as you say, a known donor would be ideal, but very hard to come across.

Once again, thank you so much for the information, it is alot to think about. Im sending you positive thoughts for your last attempt & wishing you the very best of luck

#4 lenamsbr

Posted 31 May 2016 - 10:00 PM

Hi kirkar, if you want to compare prices of overseas clinics that offer de, you should look at eggdonationfriends. com Good luck. x


#5 kirkar

Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:11 PM

Hi lenamsbr,

Thanks for the info, will do, and thank you x

#6 Froyohoho

Posted 01 June 2016 - 06:31 PM

I strongly suggest joining Egg Donation Australia forum and FB page. Many people find known donors within Australia that way.

#7 kirkar

Posted 05 June 2016 - 12:50 PM

Thanks Froyo, will pop over to the website & check it out :yes:

#8 shesue

Posted 08 June 2016 - 10:16 PM

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#9 kirkar

Posted 09 June 2016 - 05:02 PM

Great article shesue, some interesting articles attached to the main one too. So much to think about, the more information the better. Thanks :yes:

#10 MrsBiscuit

Posted 28 June 2016 - 02:20 PM

Hi kirkar, know this thread was from a while ago, but thought I'd share my experience. We're one of the lucky ones, 26 weeks pregnant via the World Egg Bank (TWEB).

I'm 46 years old with one DS conceived through IVF 5 years ago with my own eggs, many miscarriages since which is why we went down the donor egg route.

The TWEB process was lengthy and expensive, taking more than a year from first enquiry to embryo transfer and costing close to $50k for a batch of 7 frozen eggs from the US; one IVF cycle, at least 5 doctor's appointments; countless luteal support meds (not included in cycle fees, had to buy separately); and travel interstate as we chose a Melb-based clinic.

We chose our donor from her profile on the TWEB website, which was a strange experience. We selected her because she was 24; had the same eye colour as me; had a friendly face (ridiculous I know, but it seemed to matter for some reason); appeared to have a relatively healthy family history (you'd be surprised how many donors state their mums and grandmothers have had breast cancer); and had been pregnant before.

Of the 7 eggs, 6 thawed and from these we got 6 embryos. Five embryos made it to Day 5, although all of them had started to lose quality. One B-grade embryo (the rest were all Cs) was transferred on Day 5 and we got a positive Beta.

It's been a rocky road since. Every day I think I'm losing this baby, to the point where I feel like I'm verging on a breakdown. This has probably been partly as a result of the massive doses of progesterone I've been on to help sustain the pregnancy, 1200mg a day, which has driven me slowly mad. I found this thread by doing yet another of my daily online searches of success rates for donor egg cycles for women over 45. The fear has been crippling.

But I am lucky to have come this far and if we get to the end, we'll have been truly blessed.

If we do lose this baby, however, I can honestly say that i wouldn't go through this again. The physical and mental toll over such a long period of time has been far too great.

I hope this info is helpful, I wanted to be honest :)

#11 alwayshappy

Posted 28 June 2016 - 04:54 PM

Are people encouraged to provide information to their donor conceived child these days? Is openness encouraged?

#12 kirkar

Posted 10 July 2016 - 11:07 AM

Hi MrsBiscuit,

Thanks for your honest answer & congratulations, im keeping everything crossed for you. What a journey you have been on, its understandable that you would be feeling so apprehensive. The strain both mentally & physically is enough to have you on edge. Im like you, searching the net for answers constantly, why do we torture ourselves?

I love how you chose a donor, i think you can tell alot about a person by their face, what do they say, the eyes are the windows to the soul??

Since I have posted this thread, feels like a lifetime ago, i have been fortunate to find an amazing lady who has agreed to be our egg donor. Its early days yet, we have chatted & met in person, & are meeting again, this time with my partner to plan the next step. Im excited but also a little worried, i dont know if i could deal with another disappointment, but what can you do, that is what this emotional rollercoaster that is infertility is all about!!!

I am sending positive vibes lovely, please try & stay calm, I know its hard, but  you are almost there :yes: Please feel free to contact me if you ever need a chat, this journey can feel very lonely sometimes.

Take care xx

#13 kirkar

Posted 10 July 2016 - 11:38 AM

Hi alwayshappy,

From what i have read on various sites, most clinics suggest you do tell the child, the earlier the better, apparently. I think its up to the individual, all families are different, so i think you have to do what is right for you & the child. Only you can make that decision. Good luck :yes:

#14 Chill-Pill

Posted 10 July 2016 - 12:56 PM

KirKar that is exciting news,I hope things continue to feel right and you move on to treatment. I had an amazing egg donor too, I remember the excitement, the anxiety and the overwhelming sense of gratitude. Unfortunately for us the outcome wasn't a pregnancy but I felt really content that I had tried everything and I did walk away with an amazing new friend. Egg donation is such a special thing, it gives hope and such a good chance of success.

#15 kirkar

Posted 10 July 2016 - 04:48 PM

Hi Chill-Pill,
Thanks for that, Im so sorry to hear it didnt work out for you, its such a scary/happy time, i know this is our last shot & like you, will at least know if things dont turn out i tried all i could.
Egg donation is the ultimate gift & i wish more people were aware of it.
Best wishes to you and thanks again. Ill shall keep updating as i go on this journey (maybe start a new thread) if all goes well.
Take care lovely x

#16 JoMoRo

Posted 18 July 2016 - 12:46 PM

Hi all,

If only having a baby was easy, especially as you get older and find love later in life.

Reading all these messages is heart warming and i wish you all the very best.

I am 45 now and being trying for the last 3 years to have a baby. 5 ivf cycles done and the last 2 by donor by my darling baby sister but all failed. So now i feel that is the end of my journey with Ivf donor in Australia another cost of $30k with no guarantees.

I still want to know more though about overseas donors and if anyone knows good clinics overseas and the success rates?

I guess deep down I haven't really given up....

#17 kirkar

Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:14 PM

Hi JoMoRo

Thanks for your wishes, it is hard for some people in the outside world to understand what us older gals are going through. You meet someone later in life & want to complete your life with a little miracle, however mother nature isnt on our side & the journey is painful. The questions of why bother hurt & thats why I come to places like this, for support from other ladies who know how it feels.

Im so sorry your cycles havent worked for you, the mental & physical strain is at times, unbearable. I admire your attitude in not giving up, i think we all know when that time comes.

Im just about to start the donor journey soon, im so very scared but trying to stay positive.

I dont know much about overseas clinics except from what i have read on the internet, but i hear the ones in South Africa are pretty good?

If you ever need a chat please feel free to pm me.

Take care & good luck lovely x

#18 jolomo

Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:21 PM

Hi Kirkar,

I'm on this journey too. It took me 6 months to get my head around the idea and a hip replacement, but now I'm throwing everything at it.

Egg Donation Australia and Egg Donor Angels have a lot of info on overseas clinics. South Africa - Cape Fertility, appears to be a favourite. Only problem is they are anonymous donors. There is a clinic in Brisbane that does the reverse - bring donors to Australia. Some girls have also used Greece with success. OS is more successful than WEB.

Good luck with it all as it is a time consuming process at the moment keeping up with all the forums on numerous websites.

Jo

#19 kirkar

Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:36 PM

Hi Jo,

Thanks, you poor thing a hip replacement, i hope you are doing ok? I understand taking so long to think about it, its a big decision, it took me about that long too. Once i decided i advertised on Egg Donor Angels, it was exactly the same time my fabulous donor was advertising to donate, so i guess it was fate!!

Im trying to stay positive, its all so daunting, the what if questions play in my mind constantly. We are off to our first visit to our clinic with our donor on Tuesday & also our counselling session.

Its going to be an interesting journey. Take care & good luck with your search lovely.

Michelle :yes:

#20 assandra1

Posted 12 August 2016 - 04:18 PM

Hi there

My husband and I do not plan to go down the overseas route for donor eggs. We plan to stick to Australia instead.

I realise it is much cheaper according to our specialist at City Fertility Clinic but there would be risks involved going to another country. You would have the worry of flying 24 hours if you become pregnant. There is the language barrier and the health care system overseas.

In Victoria, the treatment cost for donor cycles is expensive the first time. Apparently on the second time, it is much cheaper which sounds weird. I suppose you are using the same donor and you are just paying for medications according to what the clinic told us.

What I think is unfair is that the age cut-off is different in every State. At our clinic the age cut-off is 50 years old. The City Fertility Centre in Melbourne was the cheapest.

I know that at Monash IVF, the age cut-off is 53 years old for using donor eggs in both Victoria and the Gold Coast. But it is probably more expensive, am I right? I am wondering what the cost is at the Monash IVF in Melbourne.

Good luck for everyone going through the donor cycle.


Sandra

#21 Haighm1

Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:23 PM

I am currently going down the path of egg donation. I work in the medical field and have researched it in depth. A colleague of mine recently gave birth to a healthy girl after receiving treatment at the cape fertility clinic in Cape Town South Africa. So I thought I would look into it. This is what I have uncovered so far. It is easier if you are a single female to go overseas. Also, the Cape Town fertility clinic is internationally renowned.

They choose based on clinical evidence, to put the egg recipient on the donors cycle. It apparently increases the chances of success by as much as 20%. Australian clinics don't do this. Decreasing the acceptance of the egg.

The egg donor alone in Australia costs almost as much as the whole process in South Africa. Again, one of the most renown clinics globally.

The process is simple and very accepting.

I'm happy to share my process with anyone who would like to know more

#22 Froyohoho

Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:43 PM

Australian clinics absolutely do down reg recips to synch with donors.

ETA: regardless, IVF is not a one-size-fits-all affair. Which protocol is best for each patient depends on individual needs.

Edited by Froyo, 12 August 2016 - 08:48 PM.


#23 Haighm1

Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:50 PM

I am currently going down the path of egg donation. I work in the medical field and have researched it in depth. A colleague of mine recently gave birth to a healthy girl after receiving treatment at the cape fertility clinic in Cape Town South Africa. So I thought I would look into it. This is what I have uncovered so far. It is easier if you are a single female to go overseas. Also, the Cape Town fertility clinic is internationally renowned.

They choose based on clinical evidence, to put the egg recipient on the donors cycle. It apparently increases the chances of success by as much as 20%. Australian clinics don't do this. Decreasing the acceptance of the egg.

The egg donor alone in Australia costs almost as much as the whole process in South Africa. Again, one of the most renown clinics globally.

The process is simple and very accepting.

I'm happy to share my process with anyone who would like to know more

#24 Haighm1

Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:52 PM

I am currently going down the path of egg donation. I work in the medical field and have researched it in depth. A colleague of mine recently gave birth to a healthy girl after receiving treatment at the cape fertility clinic in Cape Town South Africa. So I thought I would look into it. This is what I have uncovered so far. It is easier if you are a single female to go overseas. Also, the Cape Town fertility clinic is internationally renowned.

They choose based on clinical evidence, to put the egg recipient on the donors cycle. It apparently increases the chances of success by as much as 20%. Australian clinics don't do this. Decreasing the acceptance of the egg.

The egg donor alone in Australia costs almost as much as the whole process in South Africa. Again, one of the most renown clinics globally.

The process is simple and very accepting.

I'm happy to share my process with anyone who would like to know more

#25 Haighm1

Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:53 PM

Not of the clinics I have been to, nor the feedback from the fertility gyno's I have been referred to


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