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#26 ~LemonMyrtle~

Posted 10 February 2017 - 05:02 PM

View Post~ river song ~, on 10 February 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:



I'm still betting ivf in the case of these celebs

Yeah my money is on ivf for the majority.

I just wish they were more open about it so that young women have a more realistic expectation of their fertility as they get older. It's hard to look at all these pregnant older celebrities and not think "I'll be fine having kids in my 40s, just look at her and her"


#27 JinksNewton

Posted 10 February 2017 - 05:04 PM

How about until large portions of the population stop judging women for "putting career first"  or "putting it off for too long" we mind our own business about the exact way a celebrity gets pregnant?
God knows Chrissy Teigen and John Legend have been very open about their IVF journey, and some of the comments they get on social media are just vile. Chrissy actually handles it all superbly and on occasion has given back as good.as she's gotten, but honestly I can completely understand why a celebrity would choose not to do that.

#28 Kaz83

Posted 10 February 2017 - 05:07 PM

Could it also be the fact that due to them being celebrities we hear about it? There could be any number of people in your town or suburb expecting twins and you wouldn't necessarily know about it....

#29 Soontobegran

Posted 10 February 2017 - 05:25 PM

Women 40 years + have twice the chance of having twins.
Twins are also more likely in an African American with a 35+  in 1000 births and yes, most obviously the use of assisted reproduction.

Sarah Jessica Parker's twins are due to a surrogate mother.

#30 Froyo

Posted 10 February 2017 - 06:52 PM

View PostJinksNewton, on 10 February 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

How about until large portions of the population stop judging women for "putting career first"  or "putting it off for too long" we mind our own business about the exact way a celebrity gets pregnant?
God knows Chrissy Teigen and John Legend have been very open about their IVF journey, and some of the comments they get on social media are just vile. Chrissy actually handles it all superbly and on occasion has given back as good.as she's gotten, but honestly I can completely understand why a celebrity would choose not to do that.

100% this.

#31 skylark

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:08 PM

Assisted fertility has higher rates of multiples. Many celebrities are older when they start trying to have kids (Amal Clooney is 39 for example) and almost all celebrities have access to fertility specialists even if they aren't in that older group and I think will probably access that assistance as part and parcel of the privileged and pampered lifestyle they lead.- they are used to getting what they want and paying/doing what it takes to fulfil their needs and wants.

I'm no celebrity but I am 45 and I can say that I am aware of a possibly disproportionate number of multiples among people my age who waited to start trying to have kids. I think it's just a sign of the times.

#32 Cimbom

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:22 PM

After Beyonce's announcement, I said to DH that I bet it was a special order :p

#33 Froyo

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:24 PM

If only it was as easy as putting in a special order and having it work.

#34 Mozzie1

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:28 PM

View PostCrazy4, on 10 February 2017 - 12:39 PM, said:

Bragelina. Mariah Carey.  I don't necessary think these instances of twins are higher than the general population except for the fact they are boy/girl which makes it seems like they are using IVF and gender selection.

Having said that my boy/girl twins were naturally conceived and I get upset when people assume I had IVF just so I could have one of each.

Boy girl twins are the most common combination for fraternal twins - approx 50% boy girl, 25% boy boy and 25% girl girl. So I'm not sure why you would assume B/G twins are IVF.

#35 Cimbom

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:31 PM

I know that but when you have that much money, who knows what's possible. I can't fathom what someone with that kind of wealth has access to. It's unfortunate too that among female celebrities especially, having kids is an actual marketing strategy (no, I'm not saying they have kids *just* to boost their profile but it's a very nice side effect)

#36 Soontobegran

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:37 PM

View PostCimbom, on 10 February 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

It's unfortunate too that among female celebrities especially, having kids is an actual marketing strategy (no, I'm not saying they have kids *just* to boost their profile but it's a very nice side effect)

I just presumed they had children because they wanted them like everyone else. :shrug:

#37 Lallalla

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:40 PM

I'm not sure that it's more likely to be ivf because so many of the twins are boy-girl. Statistically 50% of fraternal twins are boy-girl, 26% boy-boy and 24% girl-girl (or 25.5/24.5 - I can't remember, to do with the 51% of all pregnancies being boys).

There is a meme doing the rounds in our local multiples facebook group that "I had twins before Bey made it cool"

I also know so many people with twins and so many of us are just lucky, we didn't have ivf, we're not older, there isn't much family history. Twins just aren't that uncommon these days. Granted I also now know a lot of people with twins who did have them through ivf/are a bit "older"

Edited to add no one has ever asked if our frat girl twins are ivf, except a couple of doctors/midwives and I assumed at the time it had medical relevance (???). Possibly because of the rather small age gap with their older sibling. I would be pretty unimpressed if they did. Whose business is it but the parents? If they want to tell you they will. Now I'm feeling guilty for speculating about celebs...

Edited by Lallalla, 10 February 2017 - 07:47 PM.


#38 deedee15

Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

View PostJinksNewton, on 10 February 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

How about until large portions of the population stop judging women for "putting career first"  or "putting it off for too long" we mind our own business about the exact way a celebrity gets pregnant?
God knows Chrissy Teigen and John Legend have been very open about their IVF journey, and some of the comments they get on social media are just vile. Chrissy actually handles it all superbly and on occasion has given back as good.as she's gotten, but honestly I can completely understand why a celebrity would choose not to do that.

Because the reality is, that a females fertility starts to decline in her late 20's, and the later you leave it, the harder it can be to get pregnant naturally if at all. The majority of people do not have the resources the celebrities have to become pregnant later in life, and the celebrities not being honest about how it happens, deceives many into believing that they have all the time in the world without any repercussions. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a career and keep it going as long as you can, but there will be costs as a female, as unfair as it is, and your fertility one very big one.
And let's be honest, people are more likely to believe a celebrity than they are a doctor.

Edited by deedee15, 10 February 2017 - 07:56 PM.


#39 Froyo

Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:01 PM

View PostCimbom, on 10 February 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

I know that but when you have that much money, who knows what's possible. I can't fathom what someone with that kind of wealth has access to. It's unfortunate too that among female celebrities especially, having kids is an actual marketing strategy (no, I'm not saying they have kids *just* to boost their profile but it's a very nice side effect)
Huh? There aren't secret levels of ART only the rich and famous have access to.

#40 Cimbom

Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:02 PM

View PostSoontobegran, on 10 February 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

I just presumed they had children because they wanted them like everyone else. :shrug:

Yes and they also wear specific clothes just because they like them, take movie roles or choose certain songs just because they like them, do certain photo shoots or campaigns just because they like them and so on. When you're that famous, a lot of things in your life are calculated to make the most amount of money or generate publicity in some way.

I'm not sure why someone in that situation wouldn't at least try to say time their kids in a strategic way or make certain choices in regards to having/raising kids in the same light.

#41 Mooples

Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:09 PM

Beyoncé and Jay Z have also been open about their struggles to get pregnant and that she has experienced miscarriage too. She may have used ivf legititemtly legitimately.

#42 Moo point

Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:15 PM

View Postdeedee15, on 10 February 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

Because the reality is, that a females fertility starts to decline in her late 20's, and the later you leave it, the harder it can be to get pregnant naturally if at all. The majority of people do not have the resources the celebrities have to become pregnant later in life, and the celebrities not being honest about how it happens, deceives many into believing that they have all the time in the world without any repercussions. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a career and keep it going as long as you can, but there will be costs as a female, as unfair as it is, and your fertility one very big one.
And let's be honest, people are more likely to believe a celebrity than they are a doctor.

IVF is invasive, expensive, physically and emotionally taxing and holds no guarantee. No one, celebrity or otherwise, owes the world an explanation on how their children were conceived.

I find the demand to know gossip about celebrities nauseating, particularly around something as personal as their children's conception.

Mooples - what is "legitimate" IVF? Most people undergo IVF when they are unable to conceive without assistance. Very few people do IVF for reasons such as gender selection, and no one does IVF for fun.

#43 Silver Girl

Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:37 PM

Sonia Kruger was open about using a donor egg, saying she didn't want to give women false hope.

On twins - one of my uni lecturers (20-odd years ago) told my class that one of the reasons twins are more prevalent than before is that many foods are fortified with folate.

He said that twins are an unexpected consequence of folate, and that Spina bifida cases have decreased while other complications related to multiple births have risen.

I have never since heard anything of this nature. Can anyone confirm this assertion?

#44 ~river song~

Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:47 PM

View PostLifesnasty, on 10 February 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

and gender selection?

Well the test will tell you the sex of the embryo so yes

#45 Freddie'sMum

Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:55 PM

DH (bless him) thought we could start trying for a family after we turned 40.  He honestly thought seeing so many celebrity mums / parents that anyone could get pregnant after 40.

It was only after we were trying (and not getting anywhere) we saw a FS who told him about my eggs being the same age as me and there wasn't a magic wand the FS could wave to make my eggs younger.

Good luck to them all but being realistic they are not going to be worried about taking maternity leave or trying to juggle breastfeeding babies with taking older children to school or paying bills like the rest of us, simply because they have much more money and can buy much more help than we ever could.

#46 MrsLexiK

Posted 11 February 2017 - 06:43 AM

Even if you only plant one egg there is a higher chance of twins via IVF.

I doubt it's a thing.

I know 4 people off the top of my head who have twins in our circle. All were IVF. 2 split. 2 had 2 eggs implanted. The amount of our friends and family who have used IVF though (that we know probably more we don't about) the 4 sets isn't a huge number at all.

#47 born.a.girl

Posted 11 February 2017 - 07:08 AM

View Postdeedee15, on 10 February 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

Because the reality is, that a females fertility starts to decline in her late 20's, and the later you leave it, the harder it can be to get pregnant naturally if at all. The majority of people do not have the resources the celebrities have to become pregnant later in life, and the celebrities not being honest about how it happens, deceives many into believing that they have all the time in the world without any repercussions. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a career and keep it going as long as you can, but there will be costs as a female, as unfair as it is, and your fertility one very big one.
And let's be honest, people are more likely to believe a celebrity than they are a doctor.

A woman's fertility starts to decline significantly ten years prior to menopause.

For me, that meant I was still regularly ovulating in my late forties (and yes, I know that's different from 'getting pregnant', but it's a damned sight closer than menopause).

I see an endocrinologist for several things, and have occasional 'full battery' tests, so not just my opinion.

For women who reach menopause 'relatively early', even their mid thirties may be too late.


No woman is an average.   She will be fertile when she's fertile, regardless of the statistics.

#48 AdelTwins

Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:11 AM

Twins doesn't mean IVF. I have had two twin pregnancies from Clomid. I have fraternal twin boys and lost identical twin boys mid pregnancy. I was always amazed at the number of strangers who asked if I had IVF, as if it was any of their business.

There are plenty of assisted reproductive techniques before you get to IVF. Beyoncé is only 35 and who knows if her twins are identical - which is a random event not caused by fertility treatments.

Both of my twin pregnancies have been quite difficult and stressful. I wish anyone in this situation all the best - celebrity or not.

#49 ~Bob~

Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:35 AM

View PostSilver Girl, on 10 February 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

On twins - one of my uni lecturers (20-odd years ago) told my class that one of the reasons twins are more prevalent than before is that many foods are fortified with folate.

He said that twins are an unexpected consequence of folate, and that Spina bifida cases have decreased while other complications related to multiple births have risen.

I have never since heard anything of this nature. Can anyone confirm this assertion?

My OB said the same thing to me when he diagnosed my twin pregnancy. He said that he noticed a huge increase in twins from the time folate was being recommended to avoid neural tube defects. It rings true for me. I was taking a lot of it, because my sister died of spina bifida as a baby.

He actually went further and said that there was talk in the medical community of pulling back the folate push. He said that long term medical problems and fetal death was higher now because of increases in multiple births than there used to be as a result of neural tube defects.

#50 Oriental lily

Posted 11 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

I think it would be a couple of reasons .

* advanced age
*busy schedules ( hard to get the window if fertility when yoyr partner is on the other side of the world on tour / making a movie )
* needing to keep a Hollywood friendly size 0 figure meaning extreme dieting interferes with ovulation thus causing fertility issues .

Plus I think when a fertility specialist says to them would you like to transfer one or two embies it would be rather appealing for them knowing their possible  pregnancy will produced two babies when it won't mean you will need a second pregnancy that will further interfere with your career  . More bang for your buck lol . They know many previous celebrities before them have followed the route so its pretty much the ' done' thing . Concerns like the extra hard work with an extra newborn is not a concern when you can afford an army of nannies to manage them .

Whatever the reason it seems to work for them and just part in parcel of being in a alternative reality of celebrity land .




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