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#1 purpleduck

Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:32 AM

We just got the fee schedule for this year (high school), includes camp fee (about $300) but the total is just under $2000..... :omg:

I just wasn't expecting such a high amount. I guess it does break down to about $500/term but still.... this is about 4x times higher than the annual fees for primary school.

What do other government secondary schools have as their annual/term fees? And what is included? Is this the norm? We are in NSW.

Thanks

#2 hills mum bec

Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:38 AM

In SA ours are $545 for the year but this doesn't include any excursion or camp costs.  Last year our excursion and camp costs would have come to about $750 and that included one interstate camp.

#3 capper

Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:48 AM

What is included?

#4 fancie shmancie

Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:59 AM

The most I've paid for DD was a couple of hundred dollars (in lower high school) when she was undertaking a whole range of subjects.

I think last year (yr 11) her fees were about $130 (including the voluntary contribution) but excluded excursions which only amount to about $50 worth for the whole year anyway.

As I haven't received anything from the school for this year (year 12), I've just emailed them so they can send me the schedule of fees for 2017.  I expect it to be about the same as last year.

#5 **Xena**

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:00 PM

Damn, I thought ours were quite high but yours are double ours. Ours were $780 this year including levy, books and camp (not including uniform etc) for public high school. We are in Tas.


Our fees are mandatory. I'd never heard of voluntary school fees until I joined EB

Edited by **Xena**, 17 February 2017 - 12:03 PM.


#6 xxyzed

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:02 PM

In WA yr 7 about $550. Includes course fees, materials, swimming, it, chaplain, library, building. On top are stationery, some workbooks, laptop, uniforms, camp and excursions. I estimate first year public high school will have cost me around $4,000.

#7 Prioritising Pooks

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:02 PM

Holy crap. Does that include voluntary fees? Sounds excessive.

#8 purpleduck

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:06 PM

Subject fees, general school contribution, P&C, building fund donation (tax ded), ICT levy, camp, sports fees etc.

Most are fairly low and I understand them, but it was just the overall amount that I just hadn't though about. I guess now I just have to adjust my mindset that this will be a bill we get every year at around this amount

#9 fancie shmancie

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:08 PM

View Postxxyzed, on 17 February 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

In WA yr 7 about $550. Includes course fees, materials, swimming, it, chaplain, library, building. On top are stationery, some workbooks, laptop, uniforms, camp and excursions. I estimate first year public high school will have cost me around $4,000.


They slug you for a IT, library, building and chaplain in a public school?

#10 purpleduck

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:09 PM

The building fee/P&C/ICT and general contribution add up to about $800 so I guess that is the bulk. There is also an extracurricular fee that my child does which is another $200. Sports fee was about $150 on top of all that.

I was talking to another parent who said that depending on what electives they do, that can make a big difference too.

We are in Sydney, maybe that makes a difference, but it does make me wonder about the organisation of the school, the DET and funding in general.

Edited by purpleduck, 17 February 2017 - 12:16 PM.


#11 tanyak1

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:11 PM

We have paid about $300 a year for high school so far (3 different high schools), plus camps costing $200 - $300. That's included book packs, student diaries, calculator in year 7 etc. That's in NSW.

#12 fancie shmancie

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:17 PM

I'm in Sydney too, Purpleduck - you're fees just blow me away!

I work at two different primary schools, one has a $40 voluntary contribution and the other a $70 voluntary contribution.

I've never known a NSW public school to have a building fund (even if it is tax deductible).

My daughter's sports fee (through all of high school) has been about $30.00 which covers transport to and from carnivals and entrance to the facility.

Edited by fancie shmancie, 17 February 2017 - 12:19 PM.


#13 Coffeegirl

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:24 PM

View Postpurpleduck, on 17 February 2017 - 12:06 PM, said:

Subject fees, general school contribution, P&C, building fund donation (tax ded), ICT levy, camp, sports fees etc.

Most are fairly low and I understand them, but it was just the overall amount that I just hadn't though about. I guess now I just have to adjust my mindset that this will be a bill we get every year at around this amount

I know our NSW public HS will let you pay it off in installments over the first two terms.

They don't get stroppy about the lack of payment until term 3, then they start to send home letters.


Fees for us this year will be (approx)
Year 8  $416
Year 11 $280

plus contribution
plus volunatry building fee ($50 each child)
plus camps
plus stationary (approx $70 each)
plus per term sport/buses  (varies between $40-150 depending on sport chosen)
plus excursions/incursions


We also have BYOD expectation of an ipad for years 7-8 and a laptop for years 9-12


I know my first year 7 bill was an eye opener!  


Slightly off topic - but our school community is really slack at paying the voluntary $50 building fee. Its tax deductible too!    We don't fund raise during the year and ask kids or parents to sell chocolates, have BBQs etc. Simply ask for a one off donation per child.

Out of over 800 families we only had 70 pay it last year.   This covers all the 'nice' things that the government won't pay for.  Like covered walkways, painting the buildings, AC in the hall, lighting for the school productions etc.

#14 purpleduck

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:25 PM

Fancie - do you have high school kids yet? We used to have under $500pa for the primary years including camp.

#15 Soontobegran

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:34 PM

Our last child was in year 12 about 10 years ago and even then it was $1800 including books, uniform, grounds fee.
The camp was extra.
Some schools will charge more because they can :(

#16 fancie shmancie

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:46 PM

View Postpurpleduck, on 17 February 2017 - 12:25 PM, said:

Fancie - do you have high school kids yet? We used to have under $500pa for the primary years including camp.

I have one child, DD now in year 12.  The biggest fees we had were in years 7 and 8 when she was covering all subjects, so Food Tech fees, Art fees etc. even so they certainly weren't more than $300.00.  Excursions weren't included, but throw in 2-3 excursions per year at $15-20 each.

Since then our fees have actually declined each year as her subjects don't tend to attract subject fees.  Off the top of my head, her 2016 year 11 fees were around $135.00 and that included swimming and athletics carnival fees and voluntary contribution.

Last year she saw the Bell Shakespeare Company perform for the price of a train ticket to get there and back!

#17 ElevenYears

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:46 PM

Sydney, year seven:

Total $545

Breakdown:  General contribution:  135
                    Diary:  10
                   Book pack 52
                   Technology access 37
                    Online texts:  12
                    Camp:  299

I was expecting some other charges - sport, materials etc but nothing has come home yet.  And that excludes money for sports carnivals and the like.

#18 fancie shmancie

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:50 PM

When DD attended our local primary school, each year there was a book pack fee (started at $35.00 for kinder) which included all books and stationery for the year.  No school contribution.  Excursions and incursions each year would have been less than $50.00 and camp in years 5 and 6 were about $250 each year.


ETA:  PSSA was $5.00/week for the season of the sport.

Edited by fancie shmancie, 17 February 2017 - 12:56 PM.


#19 Holidayromp

Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:52 PM

That's disgusting op.

At that ridiculous price I would be asking for a cashflow statement from the school to see where all these large sums of money are going to.

#20 purpleduck

Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:01 PM

It has certainly made me more interested in finding out exactly what the costs and funding from the DET includes.

#21 nasty roses

Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:23 PM

I hate that it costs so much..

My son is in year 5 and we pay $2500 a year for a private school - inclusive of all text books, some stationery, all excursions and camps.

#22 José

Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:31 PM

View Postpurpleduck, on 17 February 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

It has certainly made me more interested in finding out exactly what the costs and funding from the DET includes.

I think you will find with the recent initiatives like local schools local decisions you wont get exact answers of what DE money funds exactly. I would think the school should be able to provide info on what the funds go to.

Were any aspects of your total fee voluntary?

#23 xxyzed

Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:36 PM

View Postfancie shmancie, on 17 February 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:




They slug you for a IT, library, building and chaplain in a public school?

They sure do. It's "voluntary" and they will send the debt collectors after you if you don't enter into a payment arrangement. They also ask for an additional building contribution which actually is voluntary.


#24 marple

Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:40 PM

Yes you might find some is voluntary. Our P and C contribution is $250 per child but voluntary.
Sport can be expensive too , depending on what they choose - surfing is over $200 a term as is laser tag ( never knew that was a sport).

As  you are in NSW, the worst they will do is send you nasty letters in term 4 for any special costs your child incurred for the school - like an elective or a sport IME.

#25 niban

Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

I'd be real unhappy if a)I was charged for a chaplain and b) anyone tried to followup on non-payment of that kind of fee.  This is public school right?




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