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Posted 04 October 2018 - 09:43 AM
Best of luck to you both today Making Mirrors and Trying Again. Hopefully you can keep twinning with a double BFP shortly!
Posted 04 October 2018 - 08:29 PM
Best of luck to you both today Making Mirrors and Trying Again. Hopefully you can keep twinning with a double BFP shortly!
Thanks Jelly. Fingers crossed. My specialist was away so transfer was done by another dr who also did my successful transfer back in 2015 so fingers crossed the planets will align.
Trying again - Hope your transfer went well.
Posted 05 October 2018 - 10:59 AM
How did you go trying again? Sorry for my slack replies, work has been manic. How was the transfer ? What about you makingmirrors? Hope all has gone well for you both!
Posted 05 October 2018 - 11:49 AM
Thanks so much Jelly.
Oh I hope that is a great sign for you Making Mirrors.
Lucky Thank you heaps...Well I am officially in the 2WW. this is TMI but I have had an awful stomach ache and a little bit of diarrhoea. I am hoping that it will be fine. I honestly don't feel any different at all. I know it is way to early but I have been getting my husband to talk to my tummy and tell him he loves our little embryo...I am telling it every second and I have got my little boy giving my tummy a hug hahahahahaha my whole body is crossed this is the one.
Posted 05 October 2018 - 05:33 PM
Trying again - how exciting and daunting and terrifying - lots of kisses always helps - andddd I've heard that taking care of another child whilst trying to get pregnant can help - so as ridiculous as it sounds the little boy cuddles must be helping! They must!! Do you have a mid-luteal or when is your final BT? Has an Oct 2WW group been set up so I can stalk it he he
Posted 07 October 2018 - 09:25 PM
Hi ladies... I am graduate from this group, some of you I know and some I don’t
MrsP2024- I am so very sorry and sad for you. Xxx
Just wondering if anyone had heard from MrsPemberly? Myself and a few other graduates would love to know how she is going.
Baby dust to you all
Posted 08 October 2018 - 05:48 PM
Making Mirrors and Trying Again - How are you both going? FX that all is well!
I had my first FS appointment today and left confused, frustrated and disappointed. I just felt as though it was a complete waste of my time and money and was made to feel awful about wanting to use the lower cost fertility centre rather than the private.
I was referred to the FS by my gyno several weeks ago, I had asked if we should have tests done beforehand, he checked with the FS who said no.... The first thing the FS said today was that he can't help us until we have had a blood test each and DP has had a SA. Why couldn't he have told my gyno to have these things done so that they were available? I'd understand if they were special tests but my understanding is that they are pretty standard tests that are performed on anyone requiring assistance.
He then went on to paint a horrible picture about my chances of conceiving naturally due to my one remaining tube being blocked and continued to explain that even IVF would be pointless until it was removed, he even made a comment about being able to do surgery tomorrow. I asked a few questions and had a quick chat with my partner (we had discussed removal in length prior to this appointment) and agreed it needed to be removed, and I would have been willing to have it done tomorrow. All of a sudden he won't schedule surgery until I get my AMH results back and DP gets his SA results back which I don't understand he already said, regardless of those results, it would need to be removed.... So he wouldn't even schedule surgery until my follow up appointment with him which is in 6 weeks because it will take that long to get the results back?!?! Yes, I need to wait until CD2 for the bloods but that is due in less than a week so what exactly is going to take 6 weeks? I pushed the surgery a little more and he did book me in for 21/11/2018.
He then gave DP a referral for SA to a private fertility clinic. We had done our research and knew that he was associated with a semi-private clinic which is the option we wanted to explore so I asked about that and WOW! he spent the rest of the appointment trying to convince us that the private option was far superior. When I asked for the difference in success rates between the two his response was every point counts which only makes me think there must not be that much of a difference if he can't give me figures. He begrudgingly changed my partners referral to the semi-private clinic and pretty much said BTW the cost to have your surgery will be $3,000 have a nice day.....
The removal of my RIGHT tube was $500.00?! How is it 6 times more expensive? and that did not include the anesthetist and something else.... I don't quite remember because at this time I was livid already.
I honestly feel like calling and cancelling my follow up appointment and surgery with him but don't want to push everything back even further....
Does it seem like I am over-reacting? Or is this standard for FS?
Sorry for the long post :-(
Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:17 PM
Thanks Lucky star. How are you trying again? I’ve been pretty busy in a good way, I’m not preoccupied looking for symptoms. 7 days til blood test. I’m a bit over travelling to the clinic for gemstone injections.
Oh Nepo, that sounds like an awful appt. Sorry you’ve had such a bad experience. Was this person suggested by your Gyno? Do you have private health? Perhaps he’s making an assumption (albeit wrong) that people with private cover can afford anything. I did have a procedure privately without private health years ago that was about $3k in total and our surgeon gave us mates rates (this included nurse team, aneasthetist, bed-day procedure). So it doesn’t seem that much over. The surgeons fees alone would have been over $2k normally. I swiftly signed up for private health after that.
Is there a FS who only works with the lower cost clinic you can see? which state are you in?
Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:43 PM
Making Mirrors - Thank you! I feel a little better knowing that maybe I am not over reacting to how awful he was.
Yes, the Gyno recommended him. I think they work at the same hospitals....
I have top hospital cover that costs me $240.00 a month... I have only recently added the Assisted Conception Coverage so that won't kick in until June 2019.
My Gyno was the one who removed my Right tube in April. At that time it only cost me $500 out of pocket, that was mostly due to the fact that he operated on me, his Dad was the Assistant Surgeon and his Sister was the Anesthetist and waived her fee. I may ask him to do it again as he was lovely but I worry that if they know each other well it will negatively impact on the situation.
I get that it will be more this time but I am struggling to understand how it can be $3000.00 + above my PHI, even though the FS is a participant in their GapCover program which means he can choose to charge within a certain amount so that I only have to pay the $500..... He just seems greedy wanting this much and making me feel crappy about wanting to use the semi-private option.
I almost felt like I had to give him my bank card and pin number there and then.
I am in Sydney.
ETA if he does think I am rolling in $$$ he's barking up the wrong tree! haha
Edited by Nepo88, 08 October 2018 - 08:46 PM.
Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:58 PM
It shouldn’t be $3k if you have private. I don’t remember paying anything but excess when I had the same procedure again once private health kicked in (lap hysto dye). I’m with Medibank which might be different to you though. Ivf on the other hand, I think private cover only covers about $600 for a stim cycle, and the day bed fees for collection and transfer approx $1k in Melbourne.
Mind you, I was looking through my Medicare claims from last experience with ivf (2013-2015) to now and they’ve definitely gone up, follow up appts are twice the price.
Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:11 PM
Yeah, $3k seems very steep.
I will keep my appointments with him for now but will be working in the background to find an alternate option before then. Even if I do choose to use a private clinic for IVF when the time comes, I think I will find someone else.
Thank you for your input! I hope this week flies and will be looking forward to your results! I have everything crossed for you.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:39 AM
Hey Birdie - I haven't seen Mrs P for a little bit. I'll keep a look out and if I do see her I will let you her know that you guys are asking after her big congrats by the way for graduating
Lucky - my BT is on 17th so I still have 8 days to go. It is very frustrating.
Mirrors - I'm going good thanks. How are you feeling? I returned to work today. I had Thursday and Friday off as well as Monday. It was lovely. No stress so it was nice and relaxing. On Saturday I started crocheting a pram rug for our little girl (seriously I do realise that I have no idea what we have got but I'm going for girl hahahaha) and all my happy thoughts are going into the rug. Everytime she has it on her once she meets us she will be surrounded by love. I did this for our little boy as well but I am still making his he will probably get it for his 21st birthday hahahaha (I perhaps thought I was better than i was when I started)
Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:21 PM
Nepo88- that sounds like a really frustrating experience with your FS, I think keeping your options open to try a second opinion isn’t a bad idea. My next stim cycle will be the first one with any PHI but it’s still going to be around 5k out of pocket. I wish we lived in Sydney or Melbs where cheaper options were available...
Trying again- good luck win the wait til your next Bt!
Making mirrors- are you in the tww? Hope you aren’t going crazy with the symptom spotting
Joany- how are you going?
Birdie it’s nice to see you and I wish Mrs pemberley all the best luck wherever she is too.
DH and I decided to go for it this month after all, starting stims on Friday and the cetrrotide ones this morning. Hoping for EPU next week sometime.
Fingerscrossed so happy to hear you got a bfp!!
May luck be on everyone’s side now. Xoxox
Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:47 PM
hi all, I am back from holiday. I was following you all from afar but trying not to post if I could manage it.
@fingerscrossed - so happy to hear about your BFP!! it's good to see that sometimes the old fashioned way works too. wishing you a boring 9 months. Congrats to all the other BFPs we've had this month also
@Maufie - I hope you enjoyed your trip away and good luck for this cycle
@Birdie - I had been thinking of you, I hope all is well with you and your little bub
@nepo - sounds really annoying. if you aren't comfortable with your FS then it's really hard to trust them
@tryingagain and @makingmirrors, hope the next week passes very quickly for you both
@Mrsp - hope you are doing ok?
sorry if I have missed anyone
Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:53 PM
AFM - I went on holiday to visit family that live in a european country that is well known for IVF. After all my issues with triggers and EPU this year and since I was keen on having an unmedicated IUI (which is a bit difficult for me in AU due to availability of donor sperm) I decided to do it while I was overseas.
It was BFN but otherwise I was really happy with the service from the clinic (they screened me twice a day to catch the early ovulation) and so decided to extend my trip another week and do another unmedicated IUI. Then after a couple of random issues - donor sperm went missing in transit (seriously - from a reputable sperm bank) and then a follie that was growing a bit quickly, I switched to a natural IVF cycle and they did an EPU 24 hours after trigger. They collected an egg which fertilised and transferred on day 2 so now I am in the 2WW. Just back home this week.
It was actually quite a restful holiday despite doing 2 cycles. And now if anyone is keen to know about overseas IVF they can PM me for more details
Edited by ckmelb, 09 October 2018 - 12:56 PM.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:27 PM
OMG CK, that’s incredible. You got to transfer an embryo. I’m so so happy for you!! I was planning to PM you this week as I wondered how you were going so was thrilled to jump on and see this update from you. Sounds like the clinic was a little more proactive with the protocol so they didn’t miss ovulation as well. Hoping that embie is snuggling in and getting comfy!
Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:55 PM
@tryingagain the blanket sounds great. I made a few little outfits before my first but the sizing was too big and then it was winter and completely unrealistic for her to use. If we’re lucky this time I’ll probably plan better. Haha. Those days off would have been nice. I only took the Thursday off but my job is a lot less stressful than where I was going while through ivf the first time so it was ok. Oh, and no one here knows I’m doing this which has helped.
@maufie85 yes, tww that is thankfully only 11 days or so. It’s my first artificial thaw (and my third thaw in 8 stim cycles) so I was warned not to get hopes up. My af has always come before blood test except for my one successful cycle, but if this one doesn’t stick it won’t come til I stop all the meds so I’m trying not to read into anything. Good luck with this cycle, fingers crossed for you.
@ckmelb welcome to the tww. I’m glad you had a bit of a relaxing holiday with all those cycles going on. Amazing. Here’s hoping a touch of Europe helps and this cycle is lucky for you.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 02:02 PM
How frustrating for you Nepo. As others have said, definitely keep your options open and think about a second opinion. This ride can be challenging and being with the wrong fs can make it tougher, I wish I'd changed fs much sooner than I did.
Maufie, looks like we're cycle buddies this month, I started stims on friday too. My next bloods/scan is on friday, how about you?
Ck - what a productive holiday you had! Congrats on your transfer and fingers crossed for you.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 02:49 PM
Nepo88 - I am so sorry I was not ignoring what you had said I just thought I had typed all this in my last post ...fingers crossed I have pregnancy brain already hahaha unfortunately I am absolutely no help at all. I switch clinics between my son and this go. The prices went up hugely but the care is so much better. My first clinic was really cheap but I felt like I was only there for the money they could make off me. I don't have any of the issues that you have so I have absolutely no idea about costs etc. I am sending you lots of calming thoughts though because you need to stay calm
Maufie - Good luck to you and I hope this next week goes fast for you
ckmelb - Oh my goodness. I have done some research on one of the main clinics in Europe...we just couldn't afford it as well as everything else we had to do to get this done. i so hope this works for you. I honestly have only heard good things about the clinics over there. big hugs to you and I cant wait for your good news
MakingMirrors - Completely understand what you are saying. When I had my little boy the job I was in was so incredibly stressful. This one is much calmer which is great but I thought I would still try to take it extra easy hahaha I loved it I kept this one quite as well. The one two months ago I told the whole world and it just hurts everytime that you have to tell them it didnt work so I kept it quite like I did with our little boy
Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:10 PM
Nepo – sorry to hear you had such a frustrating appointment, especially when it’s so expensive. I wish I’d also changed FS’s sooner so definitely recommend seeking a second opinion, even though it’s more money. When I saw my new FS she wanted a whole new lot of tests done but I was able to have them done immediately at the clinic and we scheduled a phone call for a months’ time to go over them.
Maufie – hope you had a great trip and good luck for this cycle!
Trying and making mirrors – hope the 2WW is flying by for you and those embryo’s are nice and snug.
Theia – so sorry to read your BFN. Will you be jumping into another stim cycle?
CK – once again, so happy you had such a positive experience overseas.
Hopeful – will you be cycling soon?
AFM – have a BT on 26thto confirm ovulation and then will start synarel spray before next stim cycle. Will have been on DHEA for about 7 weeks before next egg collection so hoping it works some magic on my eggs…time will tell.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:20 PM
Joany - I was on DHEA for the majority of last year and all of this year. I think it did work for me. The first cycle I got my biggest ever haul of 12 eggs (I managed to get 2 two embryos and 1 was actually a BFP but unfortunately didn't want to stay with us) the next cycle was 4 eggs and all 4 fertilised and 2 made it to embryo's and this little one is my last I have everything crossed for you xoxo
Edited by trying again, 09 October 2018 - 03:20 PM.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:50 PM
CK- wow , great news! best of luck to you in the 2ww!
Maufie and Theia - fingers crossed your upcoming stim cycles go well.
Things are going fine with me, got nothing to do but wait for the next 2 weeks. I'll let you know how the scan goes.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:53 PM
Oh thank you Trying, I needed to hear that. Mixed reviews online whether or not it has helped people. I would just love to have a couple get to day 5 and even maybe freeze one so I wasn’t doing a full stim cycle every time. How did you feel on it? So far I’m ok, definitely notice my heart racing and I’m super tired but no face break outs (as yet).
I’m sorry to hear about your miscarriage, I can’t begin to imagine how tough that must be. Hoping this little one is your miracle. xxx
Posted 09 October 2018 - 04:08 PM
No worries Joany - It can be so hard when you research online you ask a question and then you get everything else. You should check one of my posts on here when I asked for help with getting my super to pay for IVF. I was crying for days after that because people were actually really mean (or could have just been my heightened awareness due to all the drugs hahahaha). I was soooooo happy when each cycle I got 2 that got to day 5 and all 4 have thawed fine and they were not fragmented at all. They were actually really good quality. That is one thing my husband kept saying to me...quality of quantity and I have come to agree whole heartily. I also believe that FET work better than fresh because your body has had time to rest after EPU but that is entirely my own observations, experience and opinion.
I didn't notice a huge change but I slept a lot less and I did have some awful pimples but I brought a body scrub and moisturiser from Moo Goo and that helped me heaps.
Thank you so much for your kind words. I sort of haven't really dealt with it yet because too much was going on so I couldn't stop and dwell on my unhappiness, I just had to get on with it. My husband has been my rock so that has helped a lot.
Posted 09 October 2018 - 04:18 PM
Ck I’m so happy you had a good experience and are in your tww! Massive good luck with this embie xox
Thanks everyone for the kind wishes. Theia I’m glad we get to be cycle buddies- I have my first scan and next bt this coming Friday too
Trying again I agree quality over quantity- it would be great to get a good enough quality embryo that makes it.
Sending hugs to all
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