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#51 FingersCrossed123

Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:23 PM

Thanks hopeful - nurses called and I continue the same injections and back for another scan Friday AM.

I'm getting uncomfortable already especially a couple hours after the injections, and hard to find a position to sleep at night that doesn't squish my ovaries. But still some more to grow i guess.

#52 Aardvark2016

Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:19 PM

Hopeful- congratulations on being PUPO! I will join you in the tww tomorrow at 9.15!!

Fingers- those numbers sound great! And the little guys can certainly catch up!!!

I hope everyone else is well. And agree with he others that we are overdue a bunch of BFPs!!

#53 trying again

Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:52 PM

Hi Everyone.

I just thought I would jump on and say hi.  I remember MrsP but I am so sorry everyone else is new to me.  I haven't been following for a long time as I wanted to stay away for a little while.  Just to fill you all in I had a 5day transfer on Jan 4th which turned out to be a BFP bu I miscarried at 5 weeks.  I then I one last egg collection and I had my second last transfer on Aug 2 so today I am 6dp5dt (I am shocking with all these abbreviations even after 5 years on these boards hahahaha) anyway I just POAS and it was neg so I am not holding out much hope for this one but we do have one more left so fingers crossed it will work next time.

Anyway just wanted to say hi to everyone and I will be having BT on Wed 15 Aug :)

Good luck and lots of baby dust to all xoxo

#54 Joany

Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:36 AM

YAY Hopeful – congrats on being PUPO!  I hope your embryo is snuggling in and that perhaps your other one is suitable to freeze.

MrsP – best of luck for this cycle.

Fingers – sounds like great numbers and yes the others can catch up.  Uncomfortable is a good sign, although not fun trying to get comfortable to sleep.

Trying – yay to being PUPO.  Sorry to hear about your miscarriage, that must have been tough. Could it still be too early for your POAS?  

Will speak to the FS this afternoon and see if he’s able to explain the dominant follicle or is it just a case of bad luck.  I think I’ll have a month or two off, I really didn’t cope mentally with the two back to back cycles earlier this year, especially with the negative result so will enjoy our holiday and get back into it when we get back.

Hope everyone else is well.

Edited by Joany, 09 August 2018 - 08:37 AM.

#55 Joany

Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:38 AM

 Joany, on 09 August 2018 - 08:36 AM, said:

YAY Hopeful – congrats on being PUPO!  I hope your embryo is snuggling in and that perhaps your other one is suitable to freeze.

MrsP – best of luck for this cycle.

Fingers – sounds like great numbers and yes the others can catch up.  Uncomfortable is a good sign, although not fun trying to get comfortable to sleep.

Trying – yay to being PUPO.  Sorry to hear about your miscarriage, that must have been tough. Could it still be too early for your POAS?  

Will speak to the FS this afternoon and see if he’s able to explain the dominant follicle or is it just a case of bad luck.  I think I’ll have a month or two off, I really didn’t cope mentally with the two back to back cycles earlier this year, especially with the negative result so will enjoy our holiday and get back into it when we get back.

Hope everyone else is well.

Sorry everyone - not sure how I posted twice up there!  Having some technical issues here - haha

#56 MsHopeful18

Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:51 PM

Hi Joany, how did you go with the chat with your FS? Hope you got some answers. A holiday before trying again sounds lovely, and I think back to back cycles have more of a chance of cysts anyway?

Aardvark, I hope your transfer went well! We should be testing around the same time, fingers crossed!

Welcome trying again and good luck for the last week before the BT!

AFM, sadly I heard back that my other early blastocyst did not make it to freeze. Feels like extra pressure to have no back ups if this doesn't work, and that despite all the new drugs this round, I still had poor egg quality. So hard to stay positive on this rollercoaster!

#57 Joany

Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:55 PM

Hopeful - sorry to hear your other embryo didn't make it.  I know the feeling of having no back ups but really hope this is a sticky one for you!

Spoke with my FS and it was quite a depressing conversation. He said that my eggs are 4-5 years ahead of where they should be and that having a dominant follicle grow could become more common.  I still had a lot of hope before my conversation with him but now I just don't know.  Will definitely have one more go but gosh my expectations are so much lower now. I know I'll get some hope back and am happy to have some time in between cycles.  Sorry for my post to be so gloomy! Will definitely continue to follow on though and really hoping for some BFP's soon xx

#58 Aardvark2016

Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:42 AM

Joany- that is terrible news. I am so sorry. I hope your next round proves all the doctors wrong and you get great EC numbers. I hope you enjoy your break.

Hopeful I am sorry that the second embryo didn’t make it but I hope the one on board will be the one!! When is your BT? It is nice to have someone else in the tww with me😊

Trying again- welcome I hope your stay here is short but it is a great place to come for support. 6dp5dt is still quite early so I hope the positive will come in the next few days (or will you hold out til the BT?)

AFM- the transfer went well- hatching blast with 100% cell survival rate. The fs seemed upbeat and the embryologist said the embryo looked good. I can’t ask for more than that- now the wait until either the BT on the 20th or I crack and POAS some time next week.

#59 Joany

Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:44 PM

Aardvark - woo hoo! Congrats to you and sounds like a beautiful embryo you have in there.  Sending lots of sticky vibes to you!!

#60 FingersCrossed123

Posted 10 August 2018 - 02:41 PM

Joany - so sorry to hear the bad news, but one benefit of doing IVF is the ability to get more information to help you make a decision about your next steps. Hope you enjoy your time off and get to relax.

Aardvark - whoop! lots of FX for you!

AFM - had another BT & Scan this morning, they saw 11 follicles and they are growing, the biggest is 15mm now.

So continue same dosages and another BT& Scan on Monday.

EPU likely to be Wed or Fri next week. Nothing to do but wait !

#61 ckmelb

Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:51 AM

Fingers crossed how did your scan go today? Hopefully you are ready now for EPU. Hope the belly isn't too painful

Aardvark hope the 2WW is passing quickly. August seems to be racing by so hope it feels the same for you. Same for you ms hopeful

Joany sorry to hear dominant follie could be a recurring issue. Did they suggest anything to help combat it list estrogen priming?

Welcome back to the group trying again

AFM I have just kicked off a flare cycle with synarel. I have no idea if I am using the synarel properly (can't tell if I have done a full spray or not). But I lie down for 20 mins after with a cup of tea to ensure whatever goes in there hopefully gets absorbed

Happy Monday all

#62 FingersCrossed123

Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:59 AM

Thanks for asking CKmelb, the scan went good today. They measured 14 follicles > 10mm and 1 borderline.

There is one 22mm and one 21mm, so looks like they did a whole heap of growing over the weekend, probably while I was having a nice lie in ! :)

Waiting for the call this afternoon to confirm, the nurse thinks EPU Wednesday.

Have been feeling fine since my meds have been stable, belly a little big but nothing crazy.

Synarel sounds confusing, but I am sure you're doing the right thing. What is the aim of a flare cycle? Is it to give just a little stimulation?

#63 ckmelb

Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:08 PM

Oh that's good news fingers crossed, not long to go now

Flare cycle is a different IVF protocol. It can be good for poor responders. But the main reason I am using it is because orgalutran doesn't always seem to be working for me. So I started synarel on day 2 to block FSH and LH and then started gonal on day 3 to stimulate follicle growth. I am still on low doses of final but you can do any level on a flare cycle

#64 FingersCrossed123

Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:13 PM

Nurse called and the specialist wants me to stim another couple of days and so looks like EPU on Friday.

I guess I will loose the 2 big follicles and the 13 medium ones will grow a bit more.

I know its only 2 days but kind of over it all now.

And interesting about the flare cycle!

#65 Joany

Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:07 PM

CK – yay to starting your flare cycle.  What is the monitoring like on this type of cycle? He hasn’t mentioned anything about oestrogen.  He said we may increase Gonal F – so I assume I’ll be on 300iu of that which feels quite high.  

Fingers – I can understand why you’re over it.  Good to hear that you will potentially have 13 eggs but you’ve been stimming for a while now haven’t you?

Hopeful, Aardvark and Trying – hope you’re both well and the 2WW isn’t dragging too much for you.

AFM – tossing up whether or not to book in for a second opinion with another clinic.  I’m still so confused after my conversation with my FS last week.  He basically said that I would have as much chance trying naturally and he wouldn’t be taking my money.  Also, he’s not one to try different things, Luveris was the one thing we were going to do differently this round and we didn’t even get to collection to test it out.

#66 FingersCrossed123

Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:41 PM

Hi Joany,

I think there is no harm in getting a second opinion. Just more information for you to help your decision.

You have to be your own advocate in this and if you're not totally happy with your specialist I think it's a good idea.

Especially if they are recommending for you to stop treatment and try naturally it would beneficial to get another opinion on that.

#67 MsHopeful18

Posted 13 August 2018 - 05:18 PM

Joany, I think a second opinion is a great idea, at a new clinic or even a different doctor at the same clinic since each doctor seems to have their own methods etc. It's so hard to know what to do when time is just moving so fast.

The cynic in me wonders if they say that to protect their stats and rates when the chances aren't as high as with someone with lots of eggs...I may be in a similar position if this embryo doesn't take. Surely he should at least give it a go since you never even made it to EPU to assess quality, and IVF has worked for you before?

Fingers, good luck for EPU. Do they do any more scans before your trigger?

CK, the flare cycle sounds very interesting. I used Synarel as a trigger and the taste was awful, my throat was burning for ages. I think I prefer injections to that!

I am 5dp5dt and feeling like AF is coming any day now. Really don't have much hope that it has worked, I just can't seem to get out of a negative state since finding out we have nothing to freeze for the third time.

#68 ckmelb

Posted 13 August 2018 - 05:38 PM

Joany I agree with the others that a second opinion is good. Even to put your mind at rest that you are getting the best treatment. I had a second opinion with a dr who gave me a few different options (inc flare cycle which I am now doing). I am not going with her because she doesn't have a donor sperm program established yet. I also find it interesting on the odd occasion I have to see another dr for a scan when my dr is on leave. The first one I saw left me with more questions than answers after my scan (I ended up calling the nurse to clarify). And the second one I saw who was the medical director of the IVF clinic I go to sort of made me feel like I was going to the principal's office. So at least I know I am comfortable with my dr and he answers all my questions.

Fingers crossed I get that it's annoying you need to wait a bit more. But I am guessing those extra follies need a bit more time to cook.

Hopeful I sometimes have that same cynical thought about success metrics....

Monitoring on a flare cycle is supposed to start a bit later because the synarel slows things down. But since my cycles do all sorts of things the nurses want me to come in on day 6. So far the synarel hasn't been too gross tasting. It's 1 spray morning and night. I suspect it would be a bit more for trigger?

Eta for bad spelling while on phone!

Edited by ckmelb, 13 August 2018 - 05:40 PM.

#69 FingersCrossed123

Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:51 PM

Joany- today is day 15 of stims and I am so over it lol!

Hopeful- Got another scan and BT Wednesday, hopefully that will be it then. That will be my 4th scan and 7th BT... Zzz

Also had to unzip my trousers at work today because my stomach is getting more bloated...If only I could wear leggings or pjs 24/7. I think I'll wear dresses the rest of the week.

Anyway the end is in sight!!

#70 Joany

Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:24 PM

Thanks for your support and advice ladies.  I think I'll do one more round in October with current clinic and also make an appointment for a second opinion.   I just keep remembering my FS saying that if he's going to get us pregnant it would be within 3 rounds, so I also believe Hopeful & CK that they want their success rates to remain high.

Fingers crossed - 15 days is a long time but sounds like you're almost there.  Good thinking wearing a dress for the rest of the week.  

Hopeful - I truly truly hope AF doesn't arrive and understand why you're feeling down about not getting any frosties.  I wish I could say something to make you feel better  xx

CK - glad the synarel hasn't been too bad and lying down for with a cup of tea afterwards sounds like a wonderful way to ensure it's doing what it's supposed to.

#71 MrsP2014

Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:58 PM

fx- hopefully wednesday is your last scan and you EPU friday. i always feel huge and uncomfortable and then I've got a few days to go.

joany- could you book in and get a review somewhere else and then decide later. you may go and they might suggest nothing different and then you've ticked that box.

CK- fingers crossed that this is the protocol of you.


on day 7 of injections of FSH, have a scan Wednesday, hopefully we can trigger and book transfer. I've still been going with the mindful iVF and find it really useful and wish id found it earlier. he made a good point today of if you go into a cycle with a positive mindset and it doesn't work out your devastated, if you go in with a negative mindset and it doesn't work out your devastated, so your better off being positive and working with the process.

i agree we are super over due for some BFP's in this group, hopefully theres  a landslide of them coming soon!

#72 Aardvark2016

Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:19 AM

Joany- I think that sounds like a good plan- reassessing after each round to make sure you are comfortable is important. I hope that cycle 3 does the trick.

Ck- I hope the flare cycle works and you get to EC! It is good to try different things. That is what has frustrated me. All my cycles have been exactly the same protocol. It seems hard to keep doing the same thing with no success.

Fingers- that is a lot of days to stim! Although it sounds like it will yield great numbers.

MrsP- I think I am going to try that mindful IVF. It makes a good point re levels of devistation!

Hopeful- when is your blood test? Will you POAS early? I hope your tww is going better than mine.

I cracked yesterday afternoon (4dp5dt) and POAS. It was a BFN. I hope it was just to early. I was hoping for a squinter but it was not to be. I did really well over the weekend and didn’t dwell or google. That has all changed since Monday and I am going slowly insane!!!

#73 Jelly11

Posted 14 August 2018 - 05:40 PM

So much going on I don't know where to start!
Aardvark - fingers crossed you just tested too early and you get your BFP soon.

Mrs P - hoping for trigger and pick up working out soon for you and getting a good harvest.

Joany - I agree they could be worried about stats which does suck. Hopefully your next round works out then it won't be an issue.

Fingers Crossed - that sounds very uncomfortable and I hope this week goes quickly for you. I'm sure the specialist knows what they're doing when they suggest waiting the extra days so fingers are crossed for a decent number of eggs at pickup.

Sorry to anyone I missed, I hope you're all keeping positive wherever you're at!

AFM - finally got to have my appointment with the geneticist that we had to delay everything for and it felt mostly like a waste of time. Only new info is that we need to do another blood test and get cheek swab samples from both my parents. So basically confirming what we'd been told already. Oh well at least I can start to feel like things are moving forward again.

Edited by Jelly11, 14 August 2018 - 05:41 PM.

#74 Joany

Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:37 AM

Fingerscrossed – hope your scan goes well this morning and I’m sure you’ll be triggering soon!  Exciting!

MrsP – that’s very true, I may go to my GP to get a referral and make an appointment. I love the Mindful IVF app too, I’ve still been using it for the anxiety meditation. I have found it so so helpful.

Aardvark – I hope it’s too early, couldn’t it still be nuzzling in at 4 days?  Will you test again in a couple of days?

Jelly – gosh that’s frustrating and annoying you had to wait so long to get in to the specialist.  I like your thinking though, at least one step closer to getting started…

Hopeful – I hope you’re ok and had a nice weekend.

CK – hope the synarel is going well.

I went to my naturopath yesterday and spent a small fortune.  I hadn’t cut out coffee completely yet so am now doing that, also stepping up the paleo diet and cutting out all grains, no sugar and have added some extra supplements to help with my mental health.  Hoping to work towards being in a good place both physically and mentally by October for next cycle.

#75 ckmelb

Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:10 AM

@Joany I am a bit the same. I spend more money on supplements than IVF sometimes. Hope this new regime works for you

@Jelly - that's a bit annoying but glad you can now move on and get the tests done

@aardvark - agree it sounds too early to test. Hopefully it's just a couple more days away from bfp

@mrsp not long to go then til transfer. That's exciting

AFM scan on day 6 and a bit of action. It actually looks like I have a functional cyst as it looks a bit big to be a follie at day 6 (20mm) and my lining was 5mm. FS didn't seem too phased and said the other couple of follies should be ok as they are growing as expected. He also suggested 1 extra spray of synarel a day given my previous issues. I won't go back til Monday for a rescan so not much to do for now

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