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#1 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 07:53 AM

If your kids couldn't tolerate dairy or soy, what milk did you give them when you stopped breastfeeding?
I know there's hydrolysed formula available but I remember how years ago pediatrician said, while writing us a script for it, that it is disgusting and you can only get your older child to drink it if you add lots of sugar in it ( if they start it as babies, it is different).
With my first son we had to rely on rice milk but it is not really a solution for a one year old for example.
I'm breastfeeding and happy to continue for as long as needed but my nighttime booby monster refuses to drink it from a bottle /cup/sippy cup during the day.

#2 Riotproof

Posted 18 September 2018 - 08:00 AM

I would consider unsweetened almond or coconut, but I’d also see a nutritionist.

#3 Mollyksy

Posted 18 September 2018 - 09:58 AM

We used rice milk after age 2, and Allerpro before (from 5 months so the taste was tolerated). We still use rice milk. It's not perfect but it works when you consider the diet as a whole. Good luck!

#4 Holly298

Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:30 AM

DS never had any kind milk as a drink after weaning (about 15months ) but I used almond milk in porridge or smoothies

#5 CrankyM

Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:30 AM

We used rice milk. Due to ongoing weight issues my kiddo was using neocate vanilla between about 1-2.5. The toddler version they add flavour too. But it’s a total nightmare to get unless you are under a Pead gastroenterologist now. Like I said we only got offered it because he was very very underweight and needed a milk drink with a high calorie load (he’d dropped off the graph and only made it back on around 2).

#6 eleventyseven

Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:49 AM

DD was breastfed until about 15 months then we switched to a calcium fortified oat milk which I found to be the best option for her. She now drinks coconut milk and I give her a calcium supplement.

#7 Flaxen

Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:03 AM

We used neocate, but that's as she was used to it. But I used vitasoy unsweetened almond in other things as I already was buying it for my coffee. Couldn't use soy or rice milk as she was allergic to those too. She has now outgrown all allergies thankfully, no idea that could happen but it has!

Edited by Flaxen, 18 September 2018 - 11:04 AM.


#8 CrankyM

Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:10 AM

View PostFlaxen, on 18 September 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

We used neocate, but that's as she was used to it. But I used vitasoy unsweetened almond in other things as I already was buying it for my coffee. Couldn't use soy or rice milk as she was allergic to those too. She has now outgrown all allergies thankfully, no idea that could happen but it has!

It was the best day ever discovering my kiddo no longer reacted to dairy and soy (he was about 4.5). Especially as only 3 months previously he had reacted violently to a new daycare staff member giving him a damned sao cracker.

#9 PrincessPeach

Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:25 AM

Unsweetened almond milk is what my SIL would use for baking - both of hers had CMPI.

#10 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:48 PM

Thanks everyone for the input!
I should have clarified I'm more worried about his options for a milk drink ( as a source of calcium and some protein hopefully and extra calories) after/if I stop BF. Little ones still need milk in the first years. 1 year old requires 700 mg/day of calcium. If he drinks enough rice milk to get that much of calcium, there won't be any room in his tummy for other food and all the vitamins and minerals and good fats and proteins he needs to grow should come from the food.
I have milk and soy intolerance. Thanks to working in office environment for years, my body slowly got used to having a cappuccino a day and a couple of cups of milk tea a day. I can also have some cheese. But I never had any milk drinks apart from occasional milk porridge which made me sick after the age of 11 months. I do eat a good variety of foods including calcium sources, yet bone scan at the age of 25 showed that my bone density was that of a 60+ lady thanks to not enough calcium (and some intolerances) in my diet while growing up.
I also have a 9 year old son who has started to tolerate small amounts of cheese, Milo(!) in rice milk and can have soy hot chocolate treat occasionally but otherwise was on rice milk since he was 17 months. 9 year old should have 1,300 mg/day of calcium and that's a lot. That's two and a half of an adult daily calcium supplement tablet. I am trying hard to get him to have some calcium so that he doesn't end up like me.

I'd be happy to continue BF mornings and evenings and pump some for my little one to have during the day but currently he eats solids well during the day and is on the boob all the time when I'm around ( after work, all night long and in the morning) and he won't take any milk as a drink during the day.
Not sure what to do. I'd love to close my milk bar at night to get some sleep and be more productive at work but I doubt you can BF morning/evening but not at night.
Maybe should have posted in Breast feeding section:)

Edited by QuirkyMum, 18 September 2018 - 04:50 PM.


#11 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:55 PM

View Postunicycle, on 18 September 2018 - 10:18 AM, said:

I was too scared to use soy milk with my middle child and couldn't see nutritional benefit from rice milk, so I relied on breast milk until his intolerance ( not allergy) to milk resolved around 2 1/2 years of age. But that meant a long time without dairy for me!
Ouch!
I remember I couldn't have any coffee with milk while BF my DS9 and that wasn't fun. But that was only 13 months for me. But 2 1/2 years! You are a hero:)
This baby is totally fine with me drinking coffee and tea with milk so I can't complain:)
Were you working during this time? If you pumped, how did he/she take the milk? And how much?
Thanks.

#12 CrankyM

Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:59 PM

There are lots of calcium fortified plant based milk options. And there are other sources of calcium that is not milk. I can’t find the sheet my dietician gave us (I think it might have been from prince Alfred Hospital) but this one is similar. https://www.ouh.nhs....r-dairyfree.pdf I know a number of children who don’t drink any form of milk and refuse to have dairy.

#13 A NEW HOPE

Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:03 PM

My eldest started drinking rice milk with neocate mixed in at 6 months under peads advice after refusing neocate when He started solids. He was anaphylaxis to Lactose, Soy, tree nuts, sesame, poppy, stone fruit, coconut and kiwi. The rice milk is naturally sweet so he drank it.

#14 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:04 PM

View Postmayahlb, on 18 September 2018 - 10:30 AM, said:

We used rice milk. Due to ongoing weight issues my kiddo was using neocate vanilla between about 1-2.5. The toddler version they add flavour too. But it’s a total nightmare to get unless you are under a Pead gastroenterologist now. Like I said we only got offered it because he was very very underweight and needed a milk drink with a high calorie load (he’d dropped off the graph and only made it back on around 2).
Yeah, we used rice milk with our first but it doesn't have enough calories and protein: ( We still use it for everything apart from crêpes and pancakes - almond milk for those:)
Are you saying your child started this formula as a toddler? And actually drank it?

I didn't know that it is hard to get now. That's a bummer!
I thought pead would call and get a special script permission and voila. Ours is specialist developmental pediatrician and he definitely mentioned giving us a script " at the next appt if baby keeps losing weight "(that was in January when baby was losing weight for a couple of weeks).

#15 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:08 PM

View PostA NEW HOPE, on 18 September 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

My eldest started drinking rice milk with neocate mixed in at 6 months under peads advice after refusing neocate when He started solids. He was anaphylaxis to Lactose, Soy, tree nuts, sesame, poppy, stone fruit, coconut and kiwi. The rice milk is naturally sweet so he drank it.
Thanks for sharing!!!
Yes, rice milk tastes nice. I have it with Milo sometimes:) and my baby happily takes it in porridge if I didn't pump any night before.

#16 CrankyM

Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:45 PM

View PostQuirkyMum, on 18 September 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:


Yeah, we used rice milk with our first but it doesn't have enough calories and protein: ( We still use it for everything apart from crêpes and pancakes - almond milk for those:)
Are you saying your child started this formula as a toddler? And actually drank it?

I didn't know that it is hard to get now. That's a bummer!
I thought pead would call and get a special script permission and voila. Ours is specialist developmental pediatrician and he definitely mentioned giving us a script " at the next appt if baby keeps losing weight "(that was in January when baby was losing weight for a couple of weeks).

No he was supplemented with normal neocate under 1 then transitioned onto the neocate vanilla. He weaned off BM (I mixed fed) at 15 months. When we got the last script for the toddler version I was informed that peads could no longer write scripts for neocate. Only as “emergency” supply limited to 3-6 months while you waited for a referral to come through for a gastroenterologist. Once the gastroenterologist confirmed the issue then the script could be delegated to the Pead to write. Which was fantastic (sarcasm) at that point for someone living in remote WA and only a single Pead gastroenterologist available in WA at the time...

We fortified rice milk with polygoule. No taste but bumped the calories right up. He ate a lot of other protein sources too. I won’t say he’s ever been the best weight but he’s not considered underweight anymore (just!).

I would recommend getting in to see a registered paediatric dietitian. They can be worth their weight in gold and I found ours was much more practical support wise then the consultant developmental Pead we had been seeing monthly. They gave me ideas on dairy/soy free options and options on how to to put up calorie and protein counts. And deal with Mr supreme fussiness.

Edited by mayahlb, 18 September 2018 - 05:51 PM.


#17 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 06:25 PM

View PostSuperMombie3, on 18 September 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:



I nigh weaned all mine at various ages, DS2 at about 14 months, the others earlier.  Sil went back to work at 11 months with her first and night weaned and just fed on wake up in the morning and just before bed.  How old is your DS?  You can try night weaning if that's what you want to do, sometimes you get more sleep sometimes not.  DS2 wasn't ready till later then the others and I wasnt willing to spend hours rocking instead of feeding quickly so he was night weaned later than the others.
Mine is 9 months.
And yes, I am in the same camp - quicker to feed and off to sleep:) I doubt I'll get more sleep if I night wean. My husband suggests that we should night wean so that I could get more sleep but I'm not sure.
Thanks for sharing. Good to know it is possible.

#18 22Fruitmincepies

Posted 18 September 2018 - 08:32 PM

I breastfed DD first thing in the morning and before bed, but not overnight for ages. I night weaned her at 15mo, and breastfed until she was almost 2. Some days she had a lunch time feed, and not others.

#19 QuirkyMum

Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:11 PM

View Post22Fruitmincepies, on 18 September 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

I breastfed DD first thing in the morning and before bed, but not overnight for ages. I night weaned her at 15mo, and breastfed until she was almost 2. Some days she had a lunch time feed, and not others.
Thanks. You are giving me hope:)

#20 Prancer is coming

Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:50 PM

My son was diagnosed with a soy allergy and a mild dairy allergy (along with other things including nuts which ruled out almond milk) at 12 months.  It all seemed too hard to try and get him on another type of milk so I just kept breast feeding for another 8-10 months!  It also meant I had to give up soy and cow’s milk :(.  I could manage rice milk on my cereal but it was foul in a drink.  I did lose heaps of weight!

I was lucky in that as the dairy allergy was mild, paed said to avoid cow’s milk but ok to have food with cheese or a bit dairy in it.  Bf ended up being a painful experience and when I finally stopped (I cut a feed every few days and night was last.  Only took a few days to break issues associated with wanting night milk) I just put rice milk in his cereal and he got the rest of his dairy from food.  If you are worried, not sure if there is a Vitamin or supplement, but I would check with your doctors before giving it.

#21 Wonderstruck

Posted 19 September 2018 - 07:00 AM

We are dairy and soy free and just starting the dairy ladder at 18 months now.

She has Alfamino junior (she was on Allerpro from 8 months and started Alfamino around 12 months) so there is hope of getting toddlers to start on it - as mentioned there we flavored options or some just add maple syrup or vanilla.

We see a paed dietician - she said soy is the next best choice but as we don’t tolerate soy to stay on formula closer to two and then transition to plant based milk unless dairy or soy is tolerated then.

We use vitasoy oat or so good almond for cooking and food.

I would see a paed dietician to get the right advice as we were told generally the plant milks lack the fats and proteins for bubs under 2.

Our 18 month olds 2x180 bottles give her most of the calcium she needs - about 500mg and then she’d get some from almond milk etc

Over the counter options are Novalac Allergy which is rice based but my bub wouldn’t drink it - some babies really like it or Allerpro which is extensively hydrolysed dairy based. The rest are script based and come in infant and toddler formulations - some are flavoured but you can get plain too like a Alfamino junior

Edited by Wonderstruck, 19 September 2018 - 07:02 AM.


#22 Lou-bags

Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:45 AM

View PostQuirkyMum, on 18 September 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:


Thanks. You are giving me hope:)

My DS1 was night weaned at 21mo and didn’t drop his bedtime feed for another 6 months after that, fully weaning at 27mo.

And I know several women who have night weaned but gone on to bf for ages after. One notable story being the Mum who might weaned her two by 12 and 14mo but went on to feed each child 1-2 times a day (morning and evening) until they were 4 and 5 years old.

On the topic of milk drinks and what did my BF kids have when they weaned (though DS2, 2yo, has not weaned yet)- well I didn’t replace their bf with anything. They don’t drink milk drinks at all really (beyond the occasional treat flavored milk for DS1). Given your child can’t have dairy or soy, I think PPs suggestion of a dietician is a good one.

#23 Apageintime

Posted 20 September 2018 - 10:17 AM

I breastfed mornings and nights until DS self weaned after he turned 3. He's never had or needed any other milk to drink ever.

I stopped pumping at work when DS was 15 months, and he wasn't ready to night wean until he was 2. Also, night weaning did not lead to better sleep for him either. So don't think thats going to be a magic bullet. my body coped fine with BF only morning and night for about a year btw.

There are heaps of non dairy foods high in calcium https://www.health.c...0845429,00.html

I myself don't have dairy or soy and have never had low calcium.

#24 QuirkyMum

Posted 20 September 2018 - 10:27 AM

View PostApageintime, on 20 September 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

I breastfed mornings and nights until DS self weaned after he turned 3. He's never had or needed any other milk to drink ever.

I stopped pumping at work when DS was 15 months, and he wasn't ready to night wean until he was 2. Also, night weaning did not lead to better sleep for him either. So don't think thats going to be a magic bullet. my body coped fine with BF only morning and night for about a year btw.

There are heaps of non dairy foods high in calcium https://www.health.c...0845429,00.html

I myself don't have dairy or soy and have never had low calcium.
Thanks!
Yes, I'm after a magic solution to sleep problems:)))
As for calcium... Blood test checking for calcium has no value if you want to know whether you eat enough calcium. Unfortunately. Mine has always been either high normal or abnormally high yet my bones are saying a different story. Anyway calcium intake is very important in the early years because your calcium stores and bone growth stops at around 26 years of age. After that we can only maintain it, not replenish.

#25 mandala

Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:16 AM

I nightweaned both of mine at 8months and continued BFing until 22 months/34 months respectively.

The little one with CMPA had partially hydrolysed formula (Allerpro) and seemed to tolerate it pretty well.

I also didn't push a milk drink for calcium or calories once they were toddlers. We had sesame seeds on cereal or as part of the crumb for chicken, almond meal in muffins, and tried salmon and sardines with limited success (although some kids love fish cakes).

How are his iron levels if sleep is an issue? Low iron can impact sleep.




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