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#1 Davidoff-sensei

Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:01 PM

From birth our baby has been pretty much unhappy 24/7 ... rarely sleeps and constantly screaming even while feeding sometimes.

We have seen multiple doctors and paediatricians and they just put it down to colic but i cant help but think this is just something more.

He doesn't just cry he screams ... and he's inconsolable for easily 6-7 hours a day.

He is predominately fed breastmilk in a bottle ... we have tried formula and it definitely makes him sleepier but in about 10 mins he's back to screaming.

We have tried reflux mediciation (zantac and nexium), tilting his cot ... infants friend and gripe water. We have tried about 5 different bloody formulas and nothing seems to do anything.

Im even dieting dairy/wheat free now for 2 weeks with no change ... he just constantly grunts and groans especially at night time. Its like he's constipated but he isn't.

He is gaining weight well and because of that i feel like the doctors etc don't seem to care. I am honestly at my wits end ... every other mother talks about how there baby is smiling and making noises etc at this age but my baby is never happy. I just feel like im doing something wrong and im so exhausted ...

#2 boatiebabe

Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:39 PM

hugs.

I had a very cranky baby - he is now 12. There was nothing wrong with him except he was just cranky all the time, and would hardly sleep during the day. Probably why he was cranky.

He settled down as he got to 9 months or so, and he's very lovely now.

I'm not much help sorry and I'm sure someone will be along to offer better advice.

I just couldn't not acknowledge how hard things must be for you right now.

#3 lizzybirdsworth

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:20 PM

Have you tried a different bottle?
You poor thing. Not easy seeing our little ones in pain and nothing helping

#4 Apageintime

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:41 PM

Is bub possibly over stimulated? My son got like that for a while and he really really was doing too much.

Also, I found breastfeeding really helped him. The ducking seemed to soothe him.

https://www.babydoc....-baby-to-sleep/

Also has bub been checked for lip and tongue tie? I would get him assessed properly. A lot of GPs miss it.

An international board certified lactation consultant should be able to help (not just a regular LC from the hospital)

#5 Lady Gray

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:44 PM

That sounds awful I'm sorry.  Could you tell your GP how badly you're struggling and see if you can get a place at Tressilian or Karitan?

We went through similar issues when my kiddo was 6 weeks' old and it was hell, nothing I have experienced before or after was as bad as my child screaming for hours every day.  We ended up getting a mothercare nurse who helped tremendously and it was life-changing.

#6 Rach_V

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:47 PM

It sounds very much like silent reflux, but I see they've already tried him on medication.

DS1 was very much like this and the GP insisted it was "just colic". I put up with it for 14 weeks before he finally agreed to a trial of Losec (I was sobbing, my baby was trying to feed and screaming his head off, fussing and completely miserable and the lovely receptionists actually said to me to make sure he (GP) knows that this is what I'm dealing with at every feed and every minute of the day).

It did take nearly two weeks for the Losec to kick in - the difference was incredible. Complete turnaround, happy for the first time ever to just lie on the floor and no more screaming and fussing during and after every feed or waking every 5 - 10 mins from every day sleep.

I'm wondering if it's worth revisiting silent reflux with Losec, allowing for up to two weeks before you notice a difference (which apparently isn't uncommon).

I hope you've got plenty of support - having an extremely fussy baby like that was so incredibly difficult xx

Edited by Rach_V, 11 February 2019 - 03:49 PM.


#7 rowd

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:48 PM

I'm sure you have tried lots of things so I apologise if these are all pointless suggestions. Do you babywear? It might help him to sleep and/or just relax because of the movement and closeness to you. Try different carriers if you haven't found one he likes yet. What about a dummy? I found a dummy really helpful from about 6 weeks onwards when nothing would soothe my second baby.  Is he burping well? Not constipated?

I'm sorry you're going through this, you must be totally exhausted, and emotionally drained. I hope you find something that helps.

#8 EmmDasher

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:49 PM

Have you tried panadol? A dose of a pain killer might give you some idea whether it’s pain related or (typical but still horrible) unsettledness. The purple crying website has info aswell for babies where this age is really hard.

Take care of yourself too OP. Caring for a demanding baby can really take a toll on your mental wellbeing. Don’t hesitate to grab whatever help you are offered or can ask for.

#9 MooGuru

Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:51 PM

Maybe try keeping a diary. Noting feed times, sleep times, awake not crying vs crying.
It's an extra thing to do but it might help identify some patterns and give your doctor's better insight into what's going on.
I often found that what a mother says gets downgraded - so "he's vomiting 20-30 times a day" was met with "most babies spit up after a feed" etc.

It also might help shed light on the moments your little one has a good five minutes which may help you feel more positive because hours of screaming can make you feel like crap as a parent and exhaustion can make you miss the rare moments to smile.

#10 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 11 February 2019 - 04:00 PM

Sometimes what looks like physical pain and discomfort is actually upset and over-stimulation.

http://purplecrying.info/

https://www.babydoc....-baby-to-sleep/

#11 FeralGiggelosaurus

Posted 11 February 2019 - 04:23 PM

It Sounds Like silent refulx to me. My Baby was the same. We tried everything as well.
The ONLY thing that worked for us was losac from a compound pharmacy, the tablets didn't work. It also took 2 weeks of daily medication to see a change.
You could tell when the dose need to be changed as she grew, she would get uncomfortable and irritable until the Dr upped the dosage.
DD2 was on Losac until she was 18 months.
We were very fortunate to find a GP that worked with us to find a solution and didn't fob us off.
Trust your gut, if you know something isn't don't hesitate to keep pushing.

#12 taters

Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:03 PM

You poor thing and your poor bubby. I hope you find the cause soon!

#13 lucky 2

Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:38 PM

You may have chosen to express and bottle feed but I'm wondering if your baby had difficulty bfing which led to bottle feeding.
Some babies who have difficulty bfing can also have problems bottle feeding.
Rather than doing something wrong you are trying to help your baby, I can only imagine how exhausted you are.

A pp suggested a LC, that would be ideal if you want to see if baby can get onto the breast.

Another possibility is an early parenting centre, you could ask your GP or CHN.
If there is an underlying feeding issue you could see a speech therapist that specialises in infant feeding.
Best wishes.

#14 Little boys rock

Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:53 PM

I feel so sorry for you & remember that awful time with my son, horrendous! I’d be insisting on trying losec too, you’ll need to see a paed again unfortunately. I had to be very firm that I wasn’t leaving his office until we had some medication...my son was also vomitting small amounts of blood!
Good luck, it’s the hardest when they won’t sleep let alone scream too. I hope you have some help, if not maybe hire someone temporarily to get some rest?

#15 Ellie bean

Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:58 PM

Yep we needed Losec, and also prescription formula (hydrolysed) for reflux and cows milk protein intolerance. Those days were just awful, so much screaming, no sleep, so many nurses/ doctors who wanted to dismiss it as me being anxious when in fact I was anxious because my baby was sick, thank goodness we found a great paed. Definitely see a paed, video of the screaming helped for dr appointments too. Check out www.reflux.org.au, see if it sounds like what you’re going through. I bet you’re doing an amazing job, it’s really hard xx

#16 CallMeFeral

Posted 11 February 2019 - 10:19 PM

You poor thing!
One of mine had colic, it was horrible. Someone did tell me that if it's true colic it normally passes at 3-4 months - and sure enough, like magic, from 3 months the hours of screaming started reducing and by 4 she was fine. What a nightmare time for all of us though.

Another thing to check is how often are you feeding? My third had lactose overload, and it was horrendous until someone mentioned it could be that, and after one day of spacing out feeds she was fixed (much older age than yours though). I'm now pretty sure that part of DD1's colic was lactose related but I think at that early age we couldn't have spaced the feeds any more anyway, so it was just a matter of her getting old enough to get over it.

I hope this resolves for you soon!

#17 PandoBox

Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:09 PM

Im sorry..for me here is what worked:

1) Cocoonababy +swaddle ..the product claims to help with reflux and colic but I also think if its not that it will hep him feel more secure and give your arms a break. Id keep it on my lap so it would be like I'm holding Bub and then just slowly slide it over to the couch. Boom free arms.

2) Dr browns bottles.

3) Look up the 5 different type of baby cries on youtube..In my case these were spot on...and it really helped me in those early days..if you aren't already make sure his awake time is max an hour to an hour and a half to rule out over stimulation/tiredness.

4)  The 6/7 week period is especially hard because thats when leap 1 or leap 2 comes.I forget..but it was one of our worst leaps.

5) It will get easier. It will get a little easier at 3m..like someone else said, colic eases slowly from then on...then again at 6m and again at 12m.

#18 Chicken Penang

Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:19 PM

My second baby was very unsettled. Constantly wanting to be fed, hated lying down. Hated the pram, the car. At the two to three month mark she was started on compounded omeprazole ( Losec) and I was advised to remove all dairy and soy from my diet. As I started them at the same  time, I was desperate for something to work. It took a few weeks to improve, but she was more settled, fed for a normal length of time, weight returned to a mid-range percentile.
Wishing you all the best.

#19 newmumandexcited

Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:21 PM

Reflux sounds like. This is the worst thing to hear but are you trying too much? Can you put him in a wrap and just walk and walk til he settles?

#20 Kiwi Bicycle

Posted 14 February 2019 - 04:12 PM

I know it's just adding something else to the mix but could it be scrotum hernias? My DS never showed any signs even after being checked by multiple doctors and nurses until he was around 3 months. Then suddenly they were visable and pretty serious. He had surgery within 2 weeks of the nurse noticing it. Looking back, a lot of his crying, lots of farting, lots of pooping and hating tummy time could be put down to pain and tighness his intestines would of been experiencing. He became so much better after the surgery.
We had tried the Losec etc for silent reflux, but with no improvement either.

#21 Davidoff-sensei

Posted 14 March 2019 - 11:59 AM

Bub is now 12 weeks. Trialing formula for CMPI and starting reflux meds ... hopefully see improvements.

The only other thing to consider from my research is tongue/lip ties ... i really don't want to have something done that is unnecessary if possible.

He breastfed for about 4 weeks, gained weight every week but had a tough time with him latching/delatching constantly and sore nipples.

Went onto bottles and was better but i think he takes in a lot of air - gulps and clicks sometimes but not a lot. He can finish about 120ml in 15 mins or so if hes hungry ..

His upper lip is also never flared out even when breastfeeding and always had a blister on top lip. I think his tongue is ok since it can come out past his lips? seems to be able to raise is ok?

Is it worth getting him checked?

Edited by Davidoff-sensei, 14 March 2019 - 12:17 PM.


#22 lucky 2

Posted 14 March 2019 - 10:58 PM

Perhaps you could ask your CHN or GP if they know a registered health professional who is experienced and could assess your baby's mouth/oral structures?
A GP who is an LC can be good to see. If you are in Melbourne I know of a few.

#23 Apageintime

Posted 15 March 2019 - 07:33 AM

Yes, get him checked, by someone who knows what they're doing too.

A lot of GPs midwives etc wouldn't know.

I know you're bottle feeding but an international board certified lactation consultant would be helpful in diagnosing the tongue tie.

http://www.enhancede...hildren-adults/

#24 SarahBelle48

Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:20 AM

My youngest daughter always had the blister on her top lip while feeding and she had a lip tie and tongue tie. The blister is apparently caused by not flaring out the top lip properly so its rubbing when it shouldn't be. She was also doing the same thing with latching and unlatching and just not able to get a good rhythm going when feeding. She had really bad wind because she was taking in too much air. Definitely consider seeing a board certified lactation consultant as they are really good at diagnosing ties. We got my daughter's ties corrected at 5 weeks old and the improvement was immediate and fantastic. She was feeding better, settling more easily and sleeping much better.

#25 WannabeMasterchef

Posted 08 May 2019 - 10:57 AM

View PostFeralGiggelosaurus, on 11 February 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

It Sounds Like silent refulx to me. My Baby was the same. We tried everything as well.
The ONLY thing that worked for us was losac from a compound pharmacy, the tablets didn't work. It also took 2 weeks of daily medication to see a change.
You could tell when the dose need to be changed as she grew, she would get uncomfortable and irritable until the Dr upped the dosage.
DD2 was on Losac until she was 18 months.
We were very fortunate to find a GP that worked with us to find a solution and didn't fob us off.
Trust your gut, if you know something isn't don't hesitate to keep pushing.

Bumping up an old post but I wanted to echo this experience almost exactly with my first.




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