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#26 Carf79

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:20 AM

Agree with PPs to get pediatric follow up perhaps with a pediatric physiotherapist. My older child was born with Hip Dysplasia and wore the harness for months. She crawled and walked slightly later but could bear weight easily after the harness had been removed. We were told Hip dysplasia once corrected would not overly delay mobility.

On the other hand, my youngest daughter did not crawl, weight bear on her legs or feet and was a late walker - 19 months. She was diagnosed with hypermobility and low muscle tone at around 12-14 months. She was fitted with orthotics at about 14 months and we did regular physiotherapy to build up muscle strength.

She was taught how to stand and sit, practiced balancing etc. She still wears orthotics because she has completely flat feet (no arches) and the orthotics offer her greater stability. She swims, runs and is very active but without intervention she wouldn’t have walked until closer to two years of age. Good luck!

#27 livvie7586

Posted 08 March 2019 - 06:07 AM

My non-crawling/moving child has hypotonia.  He had to be taught to crawl and did so at 13 months, but he was still struggling to sit at 10 months.

#28 Drat

Posted 08 March 2019 - 06:21 AM

There was a huge range of 'normal' in regards to crawling and walking in our mums group. From 4.5 months-12 months for crawling to 12 to just over 18 months for walking.

Check with your doctor first, but don't worry.

#29 PrincessPeach

Posted 08 March 2019 - 01:06 PM

View PostHummingbird82, on 07 March 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:



Yes despite me almost rolling my eyes today at this kind friend, I will definitely thank her when I next see her, as I think there could be more to this than I initially thought. I'm going to contact the Townsville hospital and some private paediatric physios tomorrow and start investigating :-)

Just be aware you might still be referred down to Brisbane, despite the size of Townsville, our silly government funding is rather SE Qld focused.

#30 Hummingbird82

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:02 PM

View PostCarf79, on 08 March 2019 - 04:20 AM, said:

Agree with PPs to get pediatric follow up perhaps with a pediatric physiotherapist. My older child was born with Hip Dysplasia and wore the harness for months. She crawled and walked slightly later but could bear weight easily after the harness had been removed. We were told Hip dysplasia once corrected would not overly delay mobility.

On the other hand, my youngest daughter did not crawl, weight bear on her legs or feet and was a late walker - 19 months. She was diagnosed with hypermobility and low muscle tone at around 12-14 months. She was fitted with orthotics at about 14 months and we did regular physiotherapy to build up muscle strength.

She was taught how to stand and sit, practiced balancing etc. She still wears orthotics because she has completely flat feet (no arches) and the orthotics offer her greater stability. She swims, runs and is very active but without intervention she wouldn’t have walked until closer to two years of age. Good luck!

Thank you so much. This is really helpful

#31 Hummingbird82

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:03 PM

View PostPrincessPeach, on 08 March 2019 - 01:06 PM, said:



Just be aware you might still be referred down to Brisbane, despite the size of Townsville, our silly government funding is rather SE Qld focused.

Thank you - I had no idea that could happen. Very useful to know.

#32 Kafkaesque

Posted 17 March 2019 - 09:54 AM

View PostDrat, on 08 March 2019 - 06:21 AM, said:

There was a huge range of 'normal' in regards to crawling and walking in our mums group. From 4.5 months-12 months for crawling to 12 to just over 18 months for walking.

Check with your doctor first, but don't worry.

As has been said it could be within normal but there are also a number of signs that it is not. Please be cautious with your advice.

OP glad you are on to it. Well done for being proactive and listening to concerns. Hopefully it is nothing but best to check it out. Goodluck and hope you don’t have to travel to far for assessments.

#33 Hummingbird82

Posted 29 March 2019 - 06:41 AM

Just a bit of an update - I went and saw a paediatrician who was highly recommended and he has no concerns about her lack of movement. He saw the her legs felt strong when she kicked her legs and just thinks she's not interested in moving at the moment.

Unfortunately the paediatric physio is fully booked with a waiting list so I can't get in to see her but I am now on her waiting list.

On the ferry to town a few days ago she did about six bum shuffles which she hasn't done since, but it's the first time I've seen her move on purpose!

#34 Hummingbird82

Posted 01 May 2019 - 10:03 PM

Just an update in case anyone else finds themselves in a similar position. Our DD is one next week and today she had a physio assessment and also a chiro appointment. The physio has concerns and wants a full assessment done in about a month. The chiropractor thinks she may have scoliosis. My sister was born with it, so maybe that's it?

I'll need to get a referral for an x-ray and try and get her hips checked too. I'll update later when I know more.

#35 liveworkplay

Posted 02 May 2019 - 11:09 AM

Thanks for the update. Good Luck with whatever the outcome may be.

#36 Future-self

Posted 02 May 2019 - 12:42 PM

Thank you for updating! I’m sorry that there is a something going on requiring further diagnosis. Good job though on following your instincts even though the Paed wasn’t concerned

#37 Hummingbird82

Posted 02 May 2019 - 03:18 PM

View PostFuture-self, on 02 May 2019 - 12:42 PM, said:

Thank you for updating! I’m sorry that there is a something going on requiring further diagnosis. Good job though on following your instincts even though the Paed wasn’t concerned

Thank you - my gut has said something isn't right, but she's so young it really is a game of wait and see too. I just want to make sure I don't miss anything and give her whatever support I can. Hopefully things will be a bit clearer in the next few months

#38 Hummingbird82

Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:36 AM

Just in case anyone is still reading this - I'm after some advice.

I called up to find out how long I would need to wait to see a paediatrician up here and the earliest appointment, if it's urgent (which I don't think it is) would be August/September. Do you think I should look at taking my DD to Melbourne for an appointment sooner? We're planning on moving back at the end of the year, but that would mean no appointments etc until mid January. I don't want to overreact but I also don't want to not do enough!

#39 Soontobegran

Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:55 AM

OP Just have others have said it is more the fact that she is not weight bearing that is the possible issue right now. She may just not have a lot of confidence in herself after being in a brace so GP then referral to a paediatrician is what is the right course of action right now. The paed will advise what to do.


View PostMinnie80, on 07 March 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

Many babies skip crawling and go directly to walking. My brother never crawled and neither did my nephew.

Very few babies actually miss the crawling stage. It may be something in your family though.

Cognitively it is quite an important milestone but it does not matter so much if it is at 5 months or 15 months in an otherwise normally progressing child.

#40 Hummingbird82

Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:06 AM

Thank you STBG - I'm definitely unsure about how best to proceed. DD needs a hip x-ray at one (she turns one next week) to check her hips are all good but she also now needs an x-ray to check for scoliosis. I am getting the hip referral from her orthopaedic surgeon, but I imagine I will need the x-ray referral for her spine from the paediatrician. Do you know, with your medical background, whether both x-rays can be done at the same time even if they are from different referrers?

The chiropractor who we saw said that she felt a curve in her spine, and that also she seemed to not feel touch on her legs. She was stroking her arms and legs, and she would look at her arms and move them but did not respond with her legs. She also has her feet curled around most of the time with a lot of muscle tightness in them.

Do you think I should be trying to get get into a paediatrician before August/September which is the earliest I can here, or do you think just going with the flow is sufficient for now? At the moment I cannot access physio in Townsville either. We are moving back to Melbourne in December where I know I'll be able to access lots of services if we need them.

Sorry for all the questions! As you can tell, I'm not really sure whether I should be pushing for answers or just waiting.

#41 Soontobegran

Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:20 AM

Sorry I missed your update that she'd been seen.
I would not be comfortable with that advice to be honest and get another opinion.
I'd stay away from a chiropractor right now, it would be most unusual for a child of her age to be displaying scoliosis.

If she is having check Xrays on her hips they can include spine and possibly lower limbs too.
Since she is having them soon I would just wait to get the results before proceeding but the request for Xray should also nominate the other areas so your GP or specialist will need to alter that if it is only a hip check.

Good luck.....don't panic though.

#42 Katerina 34

Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:31 AM

Yes- whilst the radiation expose is low with plain x-rays and she clearly needs one for her hips, I wouldn’t be x-raying anything else without an actual medical opinion. Your paediatric orthopaedic surgeon will def be aquatinted with paediatric spinal issues, even though scoliosis is very unusual at that young age. Should be able to give you more sensible idea. I do agree that seeing a paed is a good idea and if intervention needed, the earlier the better.
Disclaimer- I am in health and think chiropractors are total quacks.

#43 BusbyWilkes

Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:11 PM

I'm also in a health field and would also recommend staying away from the chiro. If you are seeing a paediatric orthopaedic specialist, mention the possible scoliosis to them when you see them next. It would be good to combine hip and lower spine X-rays if possible - a GP can do referrals for X-rays.
I would think about trying to book in now, to get apts in Dec/Jan for paed and ortho specialist in Melbourne. You don't want to move back to find that there is a 6 month wait to be seen.
There are some decent websites that could give you ideas re promoting her development while you are waiting
Raisingchildren.net.au
Pathways.org
Search "encouraging crawling at 12 months" to see relevant info.
Have you contacted private paediatric physics in Townsville to see if they could see her? The other option is that some practices now do Skype consultations - not ideal for physio with a baby, but definitely better than nothing.
Good luck.



#44 littleboysmum

Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:51 PM

My first born didn't crawl until a few weeks before his first birthday. He did no bum shuffling or pulling himself along either. He just got up and crawled properly right before he turned 1. Then a few weeks later he started walking. Both of my other kids crawled at much younger ages.

My gp at the time explained there is normal and there is average. Crawling at almost one isn't "average" but it is most definitely in the range of what is "normal". Definitely go and get it checked out if you are worried, but it is most definitely not abnormal not to be crawling at 10 months.

#45 taters

Posted 04 May 2019 - 02:01 PM

My son had issues with crawling and I was worried. I got it checked by a paediatrician who has said he thinks it is cerebral palsy. I would honestly pursue it sooner rather than later particularly if you arent able to see a paed physio in the mean time.

#46 Kiwi Bicycle

Posted 04 May 2019 - 02:12 PM

FYI I had a 2 month delay in booking a behavioural paed here in Melbourne and was on the cancellation list as well, but didn't get an earlier call up. I would ring your Melbourne doc and get xrays done for both up in Townsville, then book and fly down to Melbourne for an appointment. If this is going to be ongoing, best to be with one doc from the start, rather than change when you move back.

#47 Hummingbird82

Posted 04 May 2019 - 09:27 PM

View PostSoontobegran, on 04 May 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

Sorry I missed your update that she'd been seen.
I would not be comfortable with that advice to be honest and get another opinion.
I'd stay away from a chiropractor right now, it would be most unusual for a child of her age to be displaying scoliosis.

If she is having check Xrays on her hips they can include spine and possibly lower limbs too.
Since she is having them soon I would just wait to get the results before proceeding but the request for Xray should also nominate the other areas so your GP or specialist will need to alter that if it is only a hip check.

Good luck.....don't panic though.

Thanks STBG - all good advice and I'll definitely get a second opinion.

View PostKaterina 34, on 04 May 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

Yes- whilst the radiation expose is low with plain x-rays and she clearly needs one for her hips, I wouldn’t be x-raying anything else without an actual medical opinion. Your paediatric orthopaedic surgeon will def be aquatinted with paediatric spinal issues, even though scoliosis is very unusual at that young age. Should be able to give you more sensible idea. I do agree that seeing a paed is a good idea and if intervention needed, the earlier the better.
Disclaimer- I am in health and think chiropractors are total quacks.

Thank you for your advice. Yes I don't think I need to go back to the chiro.

#48 Hummingbird82

Posted 04 May 2019 - 09:28 PM

View PostBusbyWilkes, on 04 May 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

I'm also in a health field and would also recommend staying away from the chiro. If you are seeing a paediatric orthopaedic specialist, mention the possible scoliosis to them when you see them next. It would be good to combine hip and lower spine X-rays if possible - a GP can do referrals for X-rays.
I would think about trying to book in now, to get apts in Dec/Jan for paed and ortho specialist in Melbourne. You don't want to move back to find that there is a 6 month wait to be seen.
There are some decent websites that could give you ideas re promoting her development while you are waiting
Raisingchildren.net.au
Pathways.org
Search "encouraging crawling at 12 months" to see relevant info.
Have you contacted private paediatric physics in Townsville to see if they could see her? The other option is that some practices now do Skype consultations - not ideal for physio with a baby, but definitely better than nothing.
Good luck.

Thank you for your advice too. I can't get into any paediatric Physios at the moment as there is too much demand and I think also due to the fact that my DD does not have a diagnosis. I'll keep asking around and looking for resources online too. Thank you

#49 Hummingbird82

Posted 04 May 2019 - 09:30 PM

View Posttaters, on 04 May 2019 - 02:01 PM, said:

My son had issues with crawling and I was worried. I got it checked by a paediatrician who has said he thinks it is cerebral palsy. I would honestly pursue it sooner rather than later particularly if you arent able to see a paed physio in the mean time.

Thank you for this. It looks like DD does have a few symptoms of CP but obviously a paediatrician will be able to shed more light on it for us.

View PostKiwi Bicycle, on 04 May 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

FYI I had a 2 month delay in booking a behavioural paed here in Melbourne and was on the cancellation list as well, but didn't get an earlier call up. I would ring your Melbourne doc and get xrays done for both up in Townsville, then book and fly down to Melbourne for an appointment. If this is going to be ongoing, best to be with one doc from the start, rather than change when you move back.

Thank you - I think this is definitely the way forward. Thank you so much for your thoughts.

#50 Carf79

Posted 05 May 2019 - 04:53 AM

I just wanted to echo previous sentiment to stick with the pediatric physio therapist/pediatrician rather than chiro. Our pediatric physio was also trained in working with sociolios (common in the profession) and identified a slight case of it in our daughter who had the low muscle tone/hypermobility - its a common trait apparently. She showed us how we could see it in her posture with a ‘dip’ in her lower back and a more pronounced toddler tummy. However, the older sister (who had the hip dysplasia) did not have the issue.

I hope you get some definitive answers and a course of treatment soon. My youngest really took off with movement once we intervened. She is now approaching her third pair of custom orthotics and very energetic! Good luck with everything!




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