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#1 daybreaker

Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:30 PM

Hi, we're thinking of getting a dog early next year and briefly talked about crate training today with DH who didn't know what it was but I said I don't want to do this anyway.

We had a dog growing up and never did this and to me putting a dog in a crate is for the owner's convenience only and is like putting your dog in a cage. Am I missing something? Why is it so popular nowadays?

#2 just roses

Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:35 PM

Dogs like dens. A crate is their den, their safe space. If you think of it as a cage, you’re interpreting it through human eyes, not dog eyes.

#3 Ayr

Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:37 PM

Honestly I can see the benefits of it, but it's not for us. Some say it helps with toilet training, but we have had dogs that will wee where they sleep in the past. We started to crate train two of our dogs but they'd just wee in there and sleep on it.
One of my current dogs was trained to go on a puppy pad when we got her, she would wake at night, go into the bathroom to wee on a pad and come back to her bed. We never felt the need to crate train. We have since got rid of the crates. The dogs just stay in their beds at night and use the dog door to go to the toilet. During the day they have free reign, they don't get up to mischief.

So it has its place but it's not for everyone and hasn't been necessary for us.

#4 Caitlin Happymeal

Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:49 PM

It's been useful for us - not so much for toilet training, that seems to have happened organically, but pup had to have major surgery at about 6 months old, and it was useful then to keep her calm and still. After that, we gave it a miss for a few months, as she didn't love it when she had recovered. But we've reintroduced it now to assist with giving me back my bed. She's a ferocious chewer, (only 9 months old) and has destroyed all dog beds we've given her.

So given she has already had a bowel obstruction, to protect her at night from chewing anything and everything (And believe me, it doesn't matter how safe I make the place, any peice of soft furnishings or furniture is fair game), and to give me my foot space back in my bed... She is now crated at night. In our room, so she feels safe.

The aim is to eventually get to a place where she simply goes in there and we can just leave the door open. That's her den. Her safe space. A place where occasionally she can be put to keep her safe. She is fed in there now and is learning that puppy dinner and human dinner aren't interchangable.

So it can be useful, depending on the dog. We have two cats and two very full on 9 year old daughters, so a place than she can escape the chaos is a really positive thing if you ask me.

She's really taken to it now and seems much more well behaved in general. Much more patient for food and obedient with commands. Might just be her maturing a bit too. Whatever the case, the crate works for us.

#5 lozoodle

Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:57 PM

My dogs love their crate. They're outside dogs but of a night they always come in and go straight to their crate. its not a cage, its a big enough area for the two of them and plenty of room to move. They see it as their security / bedroom area. Great as they can't be trusted too much in the house as will pee on stuff but will never do it in their, so this way they get to come inside at night to sleep and the house doesn't stink. win win.

#6 daybreaker

Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:02 PM

Thanks for your replies. I feel like its bed in a nice corner can be enough of a safe place for it. Our dog's bed used to be under the stairs in a hall and away from everyone.

But I definitely see the appeal of the dog not weeing everywhere or chewing everything. I like to think my dog will be different :yes:

#7 kadoodle

Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:09 PM

With my young dogs, it’s primarily to stop them from rattling around the house and getting up to mischief after bedtime. It’s also been a lifesaver when faced with a very determined b**ch on heat, and her amorous friend from down the road.

#8 Chelli

Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:11 PM

I have crates for my dogs for several reasons. Firstly, one would have an accident in the house and the other dog would go and pee over the top of it which drove me crazy.

Secondly, one annoys the crap out of the other when he is trying to sleep - he is old and the younger one likes to stir him up. She would also jump on all of us as we were trying to sleep too. The dogs love their own space, so they each have a crate that is side by side and they have their own things in there - blankets, toys, etc. They put themselves to bed in there at night when they are tired and we leave the door open for them to come out as they please until we go to bed. That way if they need to go outside to toilet, they can let us know.

#9 daybreaker

Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:13 PM

These dogs sound worse than naughty children! Can't wait to get mine.

#10 Quick hedgehog

Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:14 PM

It is important to crate train your dog because you never know when  circumstances will happen when your dog will need to be crated - at the vet, or to travel for eg.  If your dog is used to being crated, then this will at least alleviate this portion of their distress.  This doesn't mean you need to crate them at home, but I would still make the effort to crate train them. They will thank you for it.  Being at the vet is stressful enough, without the added stress of being locked in a cage when you aren't used to it.

For us personally, our dog is crated at night. She loves her crate, she will often take herself off to it on her own, particularly in winter, if she thinks I am staying up too late.  

Our last dog was also crated at night, but we didn't shut the door. She still went in there at night by choice and waiting until someone got her up in the morning.

#11 ~J_F~

Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:21 PM

We don’t crate train but our dogs have a specific area their beds are in and they usually head straight there when they come in or if they want a break, that is there space.

Never had an issue at the vet with our dogs considering they haven’t been crate trained.

It’s personal preference really. Crate training is great if you want to go down that path but there are certainly other just as effective ways.

#12 annodam

Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:01 PM

We have 5 areas in the house where the Basenji lays his head.
During the day, it'll be outside in the sun or in the kennel.
Inside via the doggy door, he has the run of the house.
Moon chair in the laundry, 1 pillow bed in the Living Room on the couch, another pillow bed on the couch in the Family Room & a PP40 crate, also in the Family Room.
We sometimes hear him moving from place to place during the night.
He starts off on the moon chair & by morning ends up in the crate.  He used to like DDs bed but can't manage to get up/down as well now in his senior years as he once could in his youth.

#13 *Spikey*

Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:22 PM

Thre is a thread pinned to the top of the forum all about crate training.

My doggies love their crates. They are very comfy, and I know that they aren't wrecking the joint after we go to bed.

It is a preference thing, although there have been some people who have used it to reduce anxiety in their dogs. So yes, I would recommend it, but it's not absolutely necessary like basic obedience and desexing.

#14 WaitForMe

Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:45 PM

Personally, I'm not keen on it. If they love it so much why does it require training.

Theres also the practicality of it. Our dog loves to stretch out, I can't imagine the size of a crate for a dog his size, it would take over the house.

#15 SeaPrincess

Posted 21 August 2019 - 11:00 PM

We crate trained ours when he was a puppy. Most of the time he came and went as he pleased, and when we had a bunch of visitors, it was a clear demarcation to tell the children to leave him alone when he went in there, much more so than when he’s on his bed and they can crawl all over it and him.

Unfortunately during the summer, he decided he would sleep outside, and I didn’t move the crate, so now I can’t get him to go in it at all. He also won’t wear a coat, so now he sleeps on his bed in my bedroom all year round.

#16 lizzzard

Posted 21 August 2019 - 11:23 PM

View PostWaitForMe, on 21 August 2019 - 10:45 PM, said:

Personally, I'm not keen on it. If they love it so much why does it require training.

I love coffee and wine, but not automatically - I needed some 'training' (exposure and positive reinforcement) :p

#17 bikingbubs

Posted 21 August 2019 - 11:42 PM

My dog also loves his crate.  I read about it lots before we got our puppy and I thought that if anything it was great for him to have a place to go for some space.  I know I need space and quiet at times, so means he always has a place just for him. My kids know that too.

It made no difference with toilet training early on for us, he held all night from the day we got him.

A huge appeal for us is that we go camping he has a huge crate that folds up in 2 seconds, so he has his own safe and familiar environment when we are away.

#18 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 22 August 2019 - 07:24 AM

View PostWaitForMe, on 21 August 2019 - 10:45 PM, said:

Personally, I'm not keen on it. If they love it so much why does it require training.


like babies/toddlers and sleep? toilet training? i don’t have a dog - most people around me do, and crate training seems to come hand in hand with other training - socialising the dog, making it less nightmarish for the family. babies invariably don’t like sleep, but they need it...and then - once grown up - they do tend to like it.


#19 WannabeMasterchef

Posted 22 August 2019 - 08:44 AM

Perhaps people go away more these days and are more likely to bring their dogs with them?

#20 kitkatswing

Posted 22 August 2019 - 08:44 AM

We never crate trained our dog. I didnt see the need to. He doesn't need a cage.

He sleeps on his bed on the floor in our room (sometimes up on the bed too). He has his own mat/kmart dog bed in the lounge room, he also sits on his spot on the couch.

He has "his" spots that make him feel safe. Crate not required.

Traveling by car he is harnessed and clipped into the seat belt.

Each to their own, some dogs like it.

#21 marple

Posted 22 August 2019 - 08:44 AM

I've never crate trained either pp. My dogs have always had kennels outside but inside they have free rein and a doggy door. Never had a dog that pees everywhere or chews stuff up after puppyhood either.  
Mind you our current dog seems to sleep on whoevers  bed seems the warmest and comfiest so Im not the worlds strictest dog mum.

#22 SeaPrincess

Posted 22 August 2019 - 09:02 AM

View Postbikingbubs, on 21 August 2019 - 11:42 PM, said:

A huge appeal for us is that we go camping he has a huge crate that folds up in 2 seconds, so he has his own safe and familiar environment when we are away.
We just got a camper, and I think I’m going to have to retrain our dog with the crate so he can come with us.

#23 iwanttosleepin

Posted 22 August 2019 - 10:53 AM

We tried crate training with our golden retriever when we got her at 10 weeks.  It was a disaster and she just cried/howled/barked.  We gave up.

But we’ve had no problems with her.  She doesn’t chew stuff and was easy to toilet train.  She just sleeps in the lounge on the tiles.  We have tried beds for her but she shuns them.  Her only issue is over friendliness which can be a bit intimidating if you aren’t a dog person.

#24 JoanJett

Posted 22 August 2019 - 04:53 PM

Our dog loves hers - it's rarely closed, but it's her hangout, her sleep space and when you have lots of kids visiting, it's a good place to give her some quiet, particularly from toddlers' poking fingers.  It's also been useful when having work done at home - she'll whine if you lock her in a room so no one lets her out accidentally, but if you put her in her crate, she'll sleep away.

#25 Not Escapin Xmas

Posted 22 August 2019 - 05:34 PM

View Postdaybreaker, on 21 August 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

These dogs sound worse than naughty children! Can't wait to get mine.

Do report back... ;)




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