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#51 PurpleWitch

Posted 28 January 2007 - 01:34 PM

It's hard work but so much better for baby than formula.

Every time your baby cries in the early days offer the breast as they are usually hungry above all else.

Learn to feed laying down so you can sleep at the same time.

Lactation Consultants are amazing.

Cluster feed in the evenings. I would spend from 5-7 in the evening feeding which meant he got the rich fatty hind milk that helped to make him sleep longer. So I also got more sleep which helped the supply.

If you are trying to get your baby to sleep a breast feed is the quickest and best way.

It hurts some and not others. My girlfriends were fine and had minimal soreness. I was not so lucky.

Even when you have fed and fed and fed your baby they might still be hungry so feed again, especially when they are going through growth spurts which can occur at any age.

Oh yeah don't introduce a bottle too early as they might not go back to the breast and if you need to comp use expressed breast milk not formula so that your supply doesn't dwindle.

And finally, just when you think you will never get the hang of it, it all starts to fall into place (for most not all) and it is the most exquisite feeling in the world to breast feed your bub.

Amen Amen Amen!!

And, if your baby should be away from you in the NICU there is no reason why you can't still breastfeed.
Express, even if you only get 5 mls, it's still working.
Express every 2/3 hours, drink lots of water, look at pics of your baby. You can still breastfeed him/her.

#52 kaishra

Posted 28 January 2007 - 02:01 PM

Thought of another one that worked for me.

If they cry and you've changed them, rocked them, fed them and all that, shove a boob in their mouth, even if they're not hungry they'll probably have a few sucks anyway which will calm them down and you may find that although you thought they'd had enough to drink they may not agree.

Oh and if anyone tells you to only feed your baby every 4 hours tell them to go jump, babies don't wear watches and they know when they're hungry not how many hours it's been since they last ate.  (I had a friend (ex friend)) who would tell her baby that he couldn't possibly be hungry cause it hadn't been 4 hours, and she would not feed him till the 4 hours were up, poor thing used to scream cause he was so hungry)

#53 emmabug

Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:00 AM

Great idea!!

I wish someone had told me beforehand that it's not as easy as it looks - sure some women just "do" it, but the majority need help, and you are NOT alone and it's NOT a straightforward natural process! A good widwife or lactation consultant can make a huge difference and avoid a lot of tears.

Also, a great tip for fixing blocked milk ducts (lots of experience here!) is if you feed with the babies chin on the side where the lump is. You may have to lie in an awkward position to achieve this, but the lump will go much more easily.


#54 *~Tinker~*

Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:09 AM

A very good idea!

I found 'the way' the nurses showed me to feed in the hospital did not suit myself or DD. Infact, she didn't feed properly for me until we got home.
Then we found our 'own way' to feed and now we have it figured, she won't even take a bottle of EBM.
So, in that case, I believe there is no "right way" to do it, do what comes naturally to you.

Don't stress out if it doesn't work straight away, you may figure it out like we did, later in the comfort of your own home, or you may need to give them the bottle. The bottle doesn't have to be formula either, if you're determined, you can express.

Good luck to all the future boobie monsters!!!

#55 sam78s

Posted 29 January 2007 - 11:00 AM

I would like to add that yes, it does hurt initially, but the pain will go away!  And if it hurts too much, take your babe off and try to attach again.  

Also, it's so worth giving breastfeeding a really good try.  If you need help, ASK!

#56 Purple Caterpillar

Posted 29 January 2007 - 11:13 AM

I would like to add that yes, it does hurt initially, but the pain will go away! And if it hurts too much, take your babe off and try to attach again.

Ditto!  The midwives/nurses always told me that it shouldn't hurt and maybe it doesn't for a lot of people but it did for me.  I found that even once we had gotten the attatchment sorted out my nipples were still sore for a few more weeks.

#57 Chazee

Posted 29 January 2007 - 12:47 PM

1. The pain will go away! It might seem like there's no light at the end of the tunnel, but there is. Even if it's 3 months away... and it's so worth it at the end!

2. If you're expressing full-time, and you get mastitis...go to the Dr straight away. Even if you have to go to the hospital at 2am.  wacko.gif
I learned the hard way that if you don't get meds straight away, you may get too sick to express.....bye bye milk....

3. Lather on lansinoh if needed, don't just rub in. tongue.gif

Have more, but bubs is awake....

Great thread btw. biggrin.gif

#58 dominicsmum

Posted 29 January 2007 - 01:09 PM

Like Layika, I'm a huge fan of Lansinoh.  A friend told me about it just before my bub was born and I had it with me in hospital (thank goodness!) to slop on after my first grazed nipple - which happened on my second ever feed!

My other hot tip?  If you're flying with your bub, breastfeeding on descent makes it easier on their ears, but definitely detach if there's turbulance!  Lucky there was Lansinoh in the nappy bag!

#59 tara-lalala

Posted 29 January 2007 - 06:24 PM

Try to relax, if you tense up it won't work very well.

Get comfy! Doesn't really matter what position you are in, as long as you and bubs are comfy. Relax your shoulders and use a pillow under bubs if you need to.

Frozen cabbage leaves really DO work.

Sometimes 'airing' your nipples can help. If they spend alot of time in usually damp breast pads they can get worse.

Change your breast pads often - nipple thrush/baby oral thrush isn't much fun.

Don't worry, soon they will stop being hard and sore and heavy. Eventually they will work out how much they need to have in there..LOL

If you get mastitis KEEP FEEDING, it may be painful but its the quickest way (plus anti biotics) to get rid of it. Also it can make the milk a bit salty, so if your baby gets fussy at that breast EXPRESS EXPRESS EXPRESS!!

#60 laraq75

Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:29 PM

OK i am not technically breast feeding.  But if you can't do it you can always pump.  I have pumped for 7 months and where there is a will there is a way.  They do say breast milk is best and in my case i do really believe this.

I also did find that it was much easier at home where you are more relaxed.  I found the midwives a bit pushy.  Make sure you stand up for yourself when it comes to breast feeding because it is hard work but it is worth it in the end.



#61 sealeys

Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:35 PM

Like a few pp's, it does hurt initially, but it will go away.

If you get cracked/bleeding nipples, get the lanisoh straight away!

RELAX, RELAX, RELAX, RELAX - it doesn't work if you stress too much about it.

Don't worry about volume, they will tell you when they have had enough and they will tell you when they want more.

Finally - having the odd expressed bottle available can help (especially if you have a loving significant other who is willing to get up and do a feed if you are over tired biggrin.gif )


#62 **Nic**JaylasMum

Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:08 PM

Hi all,
I had really bad craked and sore nipples and was told breast milk and airing it would work...the pain killed me and a lovely midwife told me about Lansinoh...use it, it's great

Nic xx

#63 mamaknits

Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:24 PM

I am not an experienced breast-feeder as I have only been at it for a month. these are some of the things I'd like to have known beforehand (not that it would have changed my decision to breastfeed, but it's just nice to know)

1. Despite what everyone says about it not hurting (or that it is not meant to hurt), it does hurt to a certain degree. I had midwives and lactation specialists look at attachment and they didn't think there was a problem, but breastfeeding still hurts at the beginning of each feed.

2. Not everyone will feed for half an hour on each side. My baby didn't - he would feed for 10-15 minutes tops, and only from one side at each feed and was getting enough, based on weight gain and wet/soiled nappies.

3. Breasts leak - even when I am just thinking about the baby!

4. Feeding causes my uterus to contract and the ache is like period pains. I was told by my ob that this gets worse with subsequent children - ugh!

5. Breastfeeding is not a lovey dovey thing for everyone. I don't get any of the emotional sweet as pie responses that I thought I would to breast feeding. I do it because it is good for my baby. In truth, I feel tired and bored during each feed. Recently, I found that I am not alone. I don't feel so weird now.

That's all I can think of now.


#64 Juni

Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:42 PM

I never understood the demand feeding thing (and my bub never demanded, we had to wake her!).  It takes a while for your milk to come in and to get it to come in, you need to keep putting bubs to the breast.  Bubs may feed, get upset that there isn't enough milk, and cry - get them up and walk with them, try your best to distract them or soothe them, and put them to the boob again in 10-20-30 mins time as there will be MORE MILK!  I never understood that I was making more milk constantly and needed to try bubs again within such short amounts of time.  Hopefully knowing this will get you through that bit of screaming.

Its also important to look after yourself - eat healthy meals, get lots of snacks and drink plenty of fluids, and get some exercise (no matter how small in the first few days/weeks) to help with your health and milk supply.

Join the ABA now!  Even if you don't join, keep their hotline number handy (You don't have to be a member to use the hotline) - phone up and say hello and find out what they can help you with.  You don't have to be a member to use the hotline.

Make a booking with a breastfeeding clinic 3-4 weeks prior to when you expect to have breastfeeding issues.. i.e. before you give birth(!).. this is a joke, I'm pretty p*ssed at how long it took me to get in to one to get some help!  Don't be afraid to pay for a private lactation consultant - they are worth their weight in gold with the personalised information you'll receive, its nice to have your own cheer squad and it'll (hopefully) save you heaps in formula costs.

#65 TheFruitcake

Posted 30 January 2007 - 08:15 AM

Can't agree with the PP enough! In the first couple of days don't be surprised if you seem to be wedged in a chair or on a bed feeding feeding and more feeding - it doesn't mean you don't have enough milk, it means bub is getting your milk to come in and establishing supply. Have seen WAY too many people start FF after the first day or so as they think the baby constantly feeding means they have no milk, or not enough.

Remember there are growth spurts - it doesn't mean you supply is dropping.

Also that after your milk settles down your boobs stop being so hard and you feel like there is not much in there, but there is, so don't doubt yourself.

Hmmmmm, also that expressing is not indicative of the amount of milk your baby is getting (although I know some people are great at expressing!).

I think that's all I have.

#66 Obesa cantavit

Posted 30 January 2007 - 08:23 AM

1. feed when they are hungry. Dont worry how long their feeds are spaced, just feed them.

2. Im a fan of the "point the nipple in the air and flick into the mouth" technique of attachment. They have good picks in this months mother and baby mag and also the ABA's "Breastfeeding Naturally" book.

3.If you are planning on regularly expressing, start around the 4-6 week mark even if you dont need it then. Its much harder (imo) to start when they are older and get any kind of volume.

and lastly and most importantly:

Not everybody finds it difficult or painfull, so just relax and see how it goes. You might be plesently suprised.

Edited by ~*~Lisa~*~, 30 January 2007 - 08:26 AM.

#67 hjv

Posted 02 February 2007 - 12:58 PM

Just thought of something I wanted to add about feeding when baby is around 3-5 months.  DD1 turned into a total sticky beak at this age and would only concentrate on a feed if I was in a room by myself with no sound and no other distractions ie couldn't read a book or anything.  I also had to stand and sway from side to side to get her to feed.  
It wasn't that she didnt want breastmilk, she was just too interested in what else was going on and it is fairly commonplace in babies around this age.  A lot of people seem to give up around this age and I have often wondered if they think baby is self weaning or something and this is why they wont feed.  

It only lasted a few weeks and then things went back to normal.


#68 Tassasmum

Posted 24 February 2007 - 06:43 PM

9. Don't listen to the people who say buy formula and bottles (just in case). Why waste money unless you actually really need it?

disagree....i had no intentions of needing/using bottles and formula, and when I was discharged at 6 days I still had not got my full milk supply in yet due to complications with pregnancy/birth. I had no money(as dh had a few days till pay day) except $30 dollars, and that doesn't buy you lovely bottles/formula/pump etc.

So I think depending on your circumstances, at least a bottle wouldn't go astray. you shouldn't pre buy formula as it goes off.

Anyway I do agree that comp feeding was my downfall, but no one told me that it was so harmful to my supply, and noone mentioned expressing when I gave a bottle to keep up my supply.

I do beleive that however it works, be comfortable, be relaxed, you are not, and will never be a bad mum. Think of our precious long and short term ttcers who do not have this benefit, and lets be thankful we have a darling children at all to feed anyway that keeps them alive.

I am hoping to fully breast feed this time with not much comping, in fact I have been told to express and store colostrum from 36 weeks so bubs can at least have my stuff before my milk comes in if it takes that long again (10 days!!)

#69 FortuneCookie

Posted 26 February 2007 - 03:19 PM

My tips:

The size of your 1 day old baby's stomach is approximately the same as a regular marble.

The size of your 3 day old baby's stomach is approximately the size of a large marble.

At 10 days old, baby's stomach is only the size of a golf ball.

Babies will need regular feeding as breastmilk is readily digested and metabolised.

The colostrum acts as a mild laxative to help expel the meconium from baby. If you don't feed regularly baby can be at risk of jaundice.

The best way to learn attachment is to see it first hand. Familiarise yourself with breastfeeding before you have baby. Get yourself into a antenatal breastfeeding workshop. Your MCHN should be able to point you in the right direction.

Subscribe to the Australian Breastfeeding Association. Attend the meetings before you have baby and build up a positive, knowledgeable support network to help you through the hard stuff.

Read Breastfeeding....naturally, before you have your baby.

Know and understand the principles of supply and demand.

Enlist your partners/friends support for you breastfeeding. One of the biggest factors in women giving up, is lack of support and information.

Know that even though breastfeeding is natural, it is still a learned skill. You wouldn't buy a new horse and expect to be an Olympic champion at horseriding in the first month! It is a relationship between two, which takes practice and perseverance. Just as you need to learn, so does your new baby.

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. Believe in your bodys ability to nurture your child. You can do it.

Babies born in an unmedicated birth, can and will seek out the breast within the first hour if left skin to skin with mother. Babies have this amazing stepping/crawling reflex which enables them to climb up to your breasts and seek out the nipple, by bouncing and nudging until they attach. This can all be achieved without assistance or placing baby at the breast. If you'd like to know more about this, PM me!

You don't have to offer EBM in a bottle, there are other ways, such as cups, spoons, supply lines, syringes. Using artificial teats may cause nipple confusion.

YOU CAN DO IT!  tongue.gif

#70 bossy-boots

Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:25 PM

I would like to add that even though everything may work on your side of the deal ie plenty of milk early on, 'good' nipples, no health complications.... you may just end up with a bub who has trouble attaching for what ever reason (eg jaundice, premmie). That can be hard to understand  wacko.gif but be patient with your bub, they learn amazingly quickly and will get there in the end believe it or not.
Also nipple shields are useful for more than just sore nipples-they help with attachment issues and as a bonus can make your bub more open to the idea of feeding from a bottle when you need some time out.

#71 vshee

Posted 17 March 2007 - 09:11 PM

If you REALLY want to b/f and are having trouble, don't hesitate to see a lactation consultant as they are invaluable for support and practical advice

Don't let anyone convince you that bottle or Formula feeding is easier, if you are struggling in the first few weeks, it's your choice and your right to breastfeed

Remember that B/F is a learned skill, and we need to be patient with ourselves and our baby.

Don't worry if you feel like giving up in those first few weeks/months, many of us felt the same - just Believe in yourself and your choice to do what you feel is best for your child.  biggrin.gif

(fom a mum who expressed and fed with a supply line and nipple shields for inverted nipples for the first 3 weeks - DD fully b/f without any assistance at 7 weeks, still b/f now at 6 months and not about to stop! Determination is well worth it! biggrin.gif )


Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:50 AM

im a bit late lol but just wanna add some times no mattet how easy bf comes to you n bubs the milk will just dry up some times and its no foult of yours or bubbies dont let anyone tell you that you f###ed up somewhere my bubs was bf for 3 months no prob then overnite i was EMPTY bubs fed n fed & got NOTHING had to ff felt like a failure at first but nature knows best

#73 FortuneCookie

Posted 25 March 2007 - 05:11 PM

Respectfully zachiesmummy
im a bit late lol but just wanna add some times no mattet how easy bf comes to you n bubs the milk will just dry up some times and its no foult of yours or bubbies dont let anyone tell you that you f###ed up somewhere my bubs was bf for 3 months no prob then overnite i was EMPTY bubs fed n fed & got NOTHING had to ff felt like a failure at first but nature knows best

if you truly understand the principle of supply and demand that governs the production of breastmilk, then you would not have posted here in What new mums need to know about breastfeeding.

Very rarely does a mothers milk dry up overnight. Posts such as yours do nothing to dispel the myths surrounding breastfeeding. I feel it serves no purpose in this thread and perpetuates the most common reason that women give for giving up breastfeeding. "Perceived low milk supply."

With correct information and support many women can increase their supply if in fact it is low. There are numerous ways to do this. You will find loads of up to date breastfeeding information in the ABA's book, Breastfeeding....naturally. This book comes free when you subscribe!

#74 Kat78

Posted 17 April 2007 - 01:51 PM

If I had troubles, try and try and try again for as long as you can before using nipple shields or expressing. I really think this was half of our problems with DD.

While still in hospital, I was expressing and using nipple shields as DD would 'suck suck then pull away and scream'. It's very stressful if this happens, but in hindsight, I would not have resorted to nipple shields (based on my 'flat' nipples).

The more you feed, the more your flat-ish nipples will draw out.

Call ABA. Go to their meetings while you are pregnant so you get to know the people.

Above all, if you are having problems, keep yourself mentally healthy. Relax! It will be ok.

All this in hindsight - hoping to get it right second time round!

#75 LucidDream

Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:18 AM

Get a take-home copy of the ABA instructional DVD that they showed you in the prenatal class and watch it every time you have a problem.  I went to the breastfeeding class and promptly forgot everything as soon as I left the classroom (preggo-brain!)  I've watched this DVD at least 7 times when I was having problem with the attachment and baby's instinctive position.  It was very good for my confidence to play this DVD at 3am when breastfeeding my DS seemed to be doomed!

I also initially used nipple shields as I had flat nipples, which popped out after a week of feeding with the shields and I haven't used them since.  DS did not put much weight on that week, which I put down to the shields restricting the flow of my milk.  So the shields worked well for me, but I could not have used them indefinately.

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