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Posted 23 June 2008 - 11:11 PM
I am another worker for ABC. I am so angry about the fee increse as well. I am Part Time Perm but my fees are not reduced..Who do i see about this?....
It's ridiculous that the price has increased so much. It does make you wonder why work?... I only work three days a week...and the amount i pay for DD2 to attend as well as two DS for after school care is a waste of money.
My center director suggested i ring the number to complain.. so i think i might. The 50% rebate is suppose to help working families with the outlay each week. One of the other staff said its just like savings... you get a lump sum four times a year.. thats nice if you have it in the first place. BUt for those that dont it just makes another cost each week...
I am over it already..
Posted 24 June 2008 - 07:57 AM
I am still so mad about this. DH and I number crunched all last night and I am not feeling any better about it all!!
Our daily fees went up from $60 to $70 per day per child. I am lucky because I get 84% CCB for my three.
So our fees have gone up from $84 per day out of pocket (for 3 kids) to $111 per day out of pocket. I am only going to be making around $130-$140 per day. Thank god my working doesn't affect my FTB at all or else I would stay at home - so technically I will be $40-$50 per week in front, which I guess is better than nothing. The CCC told me that yes I will get the 50% rebate every 12 weeks so I should be happy , but that doesn't help me now!
My DH and I are trying to work out if he can work from home one day per week to have the kids so I only have to put them in one day per week, or I might work one day per week and also one day on the weekend (so he can have the kids)..... Honestly how do they expect Mums to work? It is insane.
Edited by ~*Rach*~, 24 June 2008 - 07:57 AM.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:01 AM
I hvae yet to be told about our increase. ds goes 1 day per week and if there is a $10 increase i will probably pull him out despite the fact that he is doing so well there.
The thing that bugs me is i was just thinking that i might be able to go back to work and put both kids in care with the 50% rebate but if its going to cost me $20 extra per day(for 2 kids) it really works out that their is not much difference to 30% rebate which if i did return to work i would mak basically $0 per day. Also we loose the CCB as of the 1st July so theres more.
I'm off to have a cry and to ring my centre........
Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:04 AM
I wonder if the Govt will do anything about it considering Julia Gillard was on tv last week stating childcare centres were on notice not to increase fees as a result of the ccr increase.
No doubt it will like the petrol fiasco, they will be all talk & no action.
Does anyone know who/where we send complaint.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:15 AM
Child care centres generally increase their fees in July anyway so fees would have gone up regardless of the 50% rebate.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:18 AM
Yes they do usually go up in July - but this year they are using it as an excuse to just put the fees up a ridiculous amount.
Does anyone know what number it is you can call to report centres who are putting their fees up too much?
Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:39 AM
Yes they usually do go up in July each year but normally its only a few dollars, so you can expect this and live with it.
I could easily live with a $10-20 increase a fortnight but not nearly $100.
I sat up late last night crunching numbers and with this fee increase and the new 50% rebate, Im actually worse off about $300-$400 a year.
So how is this helping working families
Sorry Im still really upset about this
Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:42 AM
Our fees went up by $10 per day too. So from $60.50 to $70.50. I have 2 children in care 2 days per week. The only way I can stop getting angry is to look at it like this... Despite the fact that we need to find the extra $40 a week up front we are still $7 an hour better off after July 7th with the 50% tax rebate (as luckily we are both working) than currently paying $60.50 per day with the 30% rebate.
At $60.50 per day with 30% rebate we paid $42.35 per day.
Now with fees at $70.50 and a 50% rebate the cost is $35.25 per day so we are still $7 a day better off than before.
I dont agree with ABC raising their fees inlight of the increase in tax rebate but it was inevitable and I am just relieved that in the end we still have more money in our pockets despite the increase.
jojo - that's aweful. How can you be that much worse off? When you did the calc did you consider that you can now claim $7500 per child instead of $4000?
Posted 24 June 2008 - 09:29 AM
Everyone's talking about $10 a day, I'm stuck looking at the big picture.
With the increase I will now be paying $40,404 a year in childcare. With no CCB. The rebate means I should get the full $7500 x 2 children. So about $12,702 per child. This is pretty much the same as what I was paying for my son to attend childcare 3 years ago when there was no CCTR.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:07 AM
Big picture for us.
Was paying = $6,760 and getting $2028.00pa
($4732 out of pocket)
Will now be paying= $10,660 and getting $5330.00pa
($5330 out of pocket)
In itself not a lot but the ideal situation being, they had regulated increase by 4% (CPI) and we got our 50% CCTR
Would have paid $7030.40pa and got $3515.20 back.
($3515.20 out of pocket)
= $1216.80 better off.
I think this is what the government had on paper without realizing how money hungry it would make CCC's to find a loop hole.
Which they have found.....
From the articles I have read, Julia Guillards "power" is limited to "flooding" the market with 260 Government run CCC
I don't like our chances of getting one of them in rural NSW.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:08 AM
I have gone over the figures and over the figures and I am significantly worse off. Its because the actual fees went up so much compared to what I am entitled to get back.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:32 AM
Gosh, I am feeling really lucky right now.
Our fees increase was obviously not as great percentage.
Lozaloxx_2 your fees have increased by nearly 50%...if ours had done that we would be out of pocket too (jojo13 I am assuming that you are in the same situation). There is a "specialist support team" 1800 222 543 listed on our ABC letter - have you called them? what did they say? It is really contrary to the media report of a 10% increase.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:05 AM
Our fee per day has gone from $56 per day up to $66! so a $10 increase per day My out of pocket expenses per week are going up by over $20
Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:54 AM
yep ours has gone up by $10 a day..... plus losing CCB.... DS is going to be devastated to have to leave his friends, and whas worse i have to try and explain it to him... thanks Eddy...
Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:46 PM
Mine's going up $25 a week.
This is totally crap.
crap crap crap
I'm seriously going to have to reconsider working.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:55 PM
$10 a day increase.
Losing all CCB
Rebate going from 30-50%
And I will actually be about the same as this year, when I get the rebates.
But on a weekly basis, it's horrendous.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:14 PM
Well Ive just rung an independant centre near my ABC centre. They are going to call me back later this week as they have not finalised their new fees for the next year.
They assured me that it would not be as high as what I am going to have to pay at ABC. Not sure if they have room for DS yet.
I really dont want to move DS as he has made so many friends there and the carers are absolutely lovely, but I honestly cannot afford $100 a fortnight rise in fees
Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:47 PM
We have 2 children in ABC full time. After CCB, we currently pay $427 a week. We are now paying $515 a week. We are struggling as it is and now we have to find an extra $88 per week.
Parents at our centre are taking children out already. We have made enquiries at a centre which is closer to home, but they couldn't do both our children full time and only 3 days each, and different days at that. All other centres around our area are ABC. We are caught in a trap.
Fortunately I was given a pay rise last week. It still doesn't cover the extra childcare fees but it will help. Lucky I haven't had a chance to get used to the pay increase.
Edited to make sense
Edited by nanash, 30 June 2008 - 09:09 AM.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:07 PM
Losing all CCB Rebate going from 30-50%
You might want to check this - a friend that is not entitled to CCB is not able to get the CCTR either.
Not sure of her financial situation but although the CCTR is not means tested it is reliant on wether you are eligble for CCB.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:23 PM
They have changed it - you don't have to be getting CCB, just pass the work/study/training test.
I have several documents/letters stating that you can be eligible for the rebate even if your percentage for CCB is zero.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:24 PM
I just wrote the same thing as the PP - so ignore me!
Edited by ~*Rach*~, 24 June 2008 - 02:25 PM.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:31 PM
Just when you think something sounds too good to be true...you realise it is!
When the increase to 50% CCTR was announced with the budget DH & I thought oh great, it really is going to be worthwhile (financially) with me working and having DS in CC! How stupid and niaive (sp) we were to think we were going to be paying very little in fees!
I didn't even think at first that Childcare Centres would see this as their golden opportunity to push their fees up by such a jump - how could I have not even considered this!! And more importantly, how could the government have not seen this coming either!? So much for their big idea of encouraging more and more parents to head back to work....judging by the comments left on this forum over the last couple of days I think they're going to see quite the opposite! If some parents are now going to be paying MORE than they were previously, why the hell would they even consider going back to work?!?
In our individual circumstances it seems after all is said and done, we are going to be $6 per week better off than we were, which I am very grateful for (at least we're not worse off like many others)....but for those of you who are now going to be worse off, my heart just breaks . As if families don't have it tough enough right now with mortgages/interest rates, fuel, groceries etc.
I agree with everyone else on here who thinks this is utter, utter, bull***t!!!
Posted 24 June 2008 - 04:40 PM
I second what you said Megan1101 - I am thinking why will I bother going back to work. My initial thoughts were, oh Kevin 07, this is how you are going to increase child care places...you are going to force people out of child care to create more spaces..hhhmm
Working families..what a joke!
Oh and if the article is correct, my fees are going up by
$12 a day that really sux.
Surely the government should have an interest in this because at the end of the day, when the prices are raised, the 50% we get back come from them ie: the higher the price the higher the rebate they must give us!
Hope the ACCC is keeping an eye on this one....
Perhaps people should start complaining to the ACC......
Edited by missmurfy, 24 June 2008 - 04:48 PM.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 04:45 PM
I just got my new fees and I am a single parent,might have to drop a day or find more work Luke loves the centre and I don't wanna full him out fully,god I am furious,as if I wasn't struggling enough without the nearly $10 a day increase!
Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:11 PM
Ours has gone up by $17 for 2 days care.
Edited by ~Lauren~, 25 June 2008 - 09:42 PM.
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