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Posted 31 August 2009 - 02:32 PM
dd is 6 weeks old.
From the start it wasnt easy, she was a very active bub from get go and i wasnt producing enough colostrum to keep her happy so she was very unsettled and just tore apart my nipples, I left the hospital day after she was born due to having a nearly 2yr ds well i had to hand express and syringe feed her it got that bad that night, luckily my milk came in the next day so she was happy.
I got the attachment right and the cracks healed, I then though had fun with a oversupply and had to keep expressing stuff off before as she couldnt get on.
At about two weeks we started having fun she just started gumming my nipples and only taking the end of it, resulted in that much pain i had to express and bottle feed her ended up being bad case of thrush.
She has now developed what i beleive is silent reflux and hates the breast, put her on she'll have a few sucks and pull off screaming arching the back and lashing out so i've gone back to expressing as its not as bad as i have a really forcefull flow (basically sorry if tmi btw its basically if youd been expressing and you get that thick shooting stream well i just about have that all the way through without the squeezing, i have to keep dd off as it's too high a flow and just let it drain into a towel which means a messy feed I dread going out any time dd might want a feed). I went to my gp last week as its just yeah getting bad shes so unsettled im seriously holding her all day, after every feed theres a screaming match, he told me to give her infant gaviscon well that aint really helping and to add thickner to her bottle which helps at some feeds but wont bf'ing. The gp's and the chn ive seen think im imagining things and shes fine, you should have seen the looks when i said i was there to have her seen for silent reflux, as shes gaining weight, perhaps a little too much, she was born 3.9kg by day 2 was 3.8 at her 3 week check up was upto 5.1kg and nearly 5.4 the next week. They say shes fine and if anything was wrong she wouldnt be gaining but from what i was told by 13health silent refluxers often gain alot of weight as they comfort feed which what she does.
I'm just at a loss as to what to do, Im so tired its not funny, i barely get to bed before midnight then shes back up at 2:30 and well if its been a ok feed we'll be going back asleep by 3:30 then shes usually back up by 5:30-6 and im up from then on usually, ds doesnt take naps anymore so thats the only sleep im getting and having to express is just taking it right out of me, Im that tired I constantly feel sick and emotional and the idea of formula is looming but i dont want that option Ive learnt with ds its ok now but later ill really regret it. With ds he had mouth problems which ment latching on was near impossible so i expressed but he had a touch of reflux and severe colic so i was like this with him but lasted until 4 mths before i went formula and regretted it.
Im just at a loss, she has so much trouble at the breast and is a constant feeder sometimes being on there for a good hr every 2 hrs but expressing i dont know how much i can keep it up i know my supply is dropping off but i dont want to use formula, it makes me feel like a failure as a mother not being able to provide the most natural thing for her.
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:10 PM
Secondly you are not a failure. BF is hard work and it doesn't matter if it is your 1st or 5th child. Every baby feeds differently and the first few weeks as you are both getting used to each other is tough.
It does sound like silent reflux. My DD had similar issues. I had tried thickeners, Mylanta and took her to see a chiro she was so unsettled. She was also gaining weight. Thankfully my Dr listened to me and prescribed Zantac immediately. I now have a different child.
I would get in touch with the Australian Breastfeeding Association (02 8853 4999) and see if they have any advice. Your supply might seem to be dropping off a bit as well but this could be due to your body settling into breastfeeding and adjusting itself to your baby's needs.
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:17 PM
Can you get into/onto your nearest Mothercraft facility "Tresillian/Karitane" type place?
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:30 PM
I just wanted to say that I had a very forceful letdown with both my boys, but DS2 really suffered with it - like what you said, on and off, irritable, I too took him to the Dr thinking ihe had reflux. We tried mylanta, but it didn't help. Things did settle down on their own from around the 6-8 week mark.
I too would give the ABA or a Lactation consultant a call.
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:30 PM
Tresillian 02 9707 0855 - 24 hour help line for all things baby related.
However the ABA sounds like your best bet.
Good luck. Can anyone take your DS during the day so you can get some rest?
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:33 PM
Nope nearest ppl are 4hrs and their 'too busy' to visit which why they havent seen their grandkids in 5 weeks
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:38 PM
With DD (baby number 4, & our happy chucker), I found that she couldn't cope with my letdown, so I used ot have to express her feeds and give by bottle with a very slow teat until she was about 8 weeks old when my supply had settled and she was just that much older.
Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:50 PM
OP, Karitane/Tresillian is similar to the Ellen Barron Centre where you can go for help with babies who arent feeding properly or have other issues. I would be calling them.
Here are their contact details (click on the Here).
They are VERY helpful and would be worth your while calling them.
I was hysterical from stress and tiredness after DD was born and they were fantastic. I was booked in a week after I called them for a week long stay, but everything sorted itself out and I didnt need to go.
Edited by mfcr06, 31 August 2009 - 03:52 PM.
Posted 31 August 2009 - 09:37 PM
You definately need to ring the ABA and get some information. Also contact your local breastfeeding support service (not sure where you are located).
99% of GPs have no idea whatsoever about breastfeeding technicalities - they probably did a 1 hour lecture during university and have less clue than you!
Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:30 PM
I just want to say it is absolute rubbish what your doctor and mchn are saying about silent refluxers not gaining weight. My DD had silent reflux and was perfectly healthy and she een had a feeding aversion she was never underweight. My DS pretty much vomits after every feed and has secondary reflux due to a dairy and soy intolorance. He to has refused milk and I have mostly had to feed him in his sleep but he is absolutely thriing and in the 75th percentile. Trust your mothers instinct it's an amazing thing and seek a 2nd opinion.
Yes breastmilk is a great thing but if you have to stop feeding because it is beyond exhaustin you don't feel guilty at all. I had supply issues and attachment issues with DS and eventually he started refusing breast so I wnet to formula fulltime. It certainly took alot of the pressure off me and made me a better mum so it happens to the best of us. Perhaps try and see if you can see a lactation consultant around your area to help you get ontop of theses issues. I don't know how much help Ellen Baron could be if it is a medical problem causing your bub to be upset though. I was refered there but declined because no amount of training they were going to try on DS was going to stop his gut pain.
I hope it gets better for you poor thing x
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