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#51 missyt

Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:20 PM

Oh Prue, fingers crossed. We have only been trying for six months but it is becoming very painful and it seems I keep hearing of others becoming pregnant (two this month) and as happy as I am for them, I am sad for me.


Thank you Prue for sharing your journey on a topic that is rarely discussed.  I am hoping and checking the blog daily to see what happens.

#52 Amanda_R

Posted 27 August 2010 - 11:52 PM

Woo 8!  So where to from here, anything else that needs to happen before they transfer one in or is it pretty much right to go?

Lol I was sitting there thinking I wonder what would be a good way to help with the morning lie in (as if I'd actually think of a solution  rolleyes.gif ) ...and all I could think of was DH doing it while you were asleep 30 mins before you had to get up...uh..yeah..that'd work lol.  The dodgy things I think of when I need sleep. Tounge1.gif

Best of luck!

ps: Dare you to suggest Fanoir to someone in the baby names section. laughing2.gif Tounge1.gif

#53 prue~c

Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:34 AM

Amanda they put the embryo back when it is a "blastocyst" five days after fertilisation. That was on Wednesday. I still have Clexane injections and progesterone once and twice a day until I get results. If they are positive, I continue meds for first 12 weeks.

#54 Amanda_R

Posted 28 August 2010 - 01:49 PM

Ah yeah I thought it was happening on Wednesday and then I forgot lol.  Well here's hoping it the one!

#55 Hollyhoo

Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:55 PM

Hi Prue,
thank you for sharing your journey.  After 10 stim cycles and 16 transfers (2 embryos most times) we have swapped clinics (mainly to be able to attempt a blastocyst transfer) and nearing the end of the TWW of my first (antagonist) cycle (we managed 1 blastocyst - no frosties).
I have no NK cell issues as yourself but otherwise a similar cycle, (with added 3 injections injection, pills and patches to assist with preventing early bleeding after transfer).
What I really want to share with you is the god send of this cycle with regard to the progesterone pessaries (only someone having to use the pessaries could see it this way). I am taking them morning and night and after many cycle of having to lie with my legs in the air for half an hour and still end up with waxy cardboard like knickers, my specialist has me sticking them up my butt. They apparently absorb better but no leakage!! I'd be asking your specialist if its an option for you.
Have everything crossed for you Prue and hoping to hear some goods news from you soon. (Monday week?)
(Love to hear how you occupy your mind in the TWW.)

#56 Guest_onehappymum_*

Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:21 PM

Hi Prue,

How are you going with the Clexane?  I'm in the TWW period (my transfer was last Thursday), and it is so hard not to think about it, or look for signs of being pregnant.  My belly is developing a nice track line from the Clexane injections, which the nurse said would happen and that sometimes the needles are blunt as they are pre-loaded syringes - oh joy.  

I just keep telling myself - IVF works, IVF works, IVF works...it worked once for me, it can work again.  I'm a bit jealous of all the people who don't have to go through this to get pregnant, but at the same time think that this is our journey, it's just different to theirs.

#57 prue~c

Posted 30 August 2010 - 03:25 PM

Thanks for the tip Hollyhoo! I think laughing2.gif You are a far better woman than me. Just the thought of ten full IVF stim cycles makes me feel sick. Crossing everything for you.

In terms of occupying my mind, I have a very busy job and I need my brain to be "on" all the time so it doesn't give me much opportunity to think about things. In a previous life as a freelance writer,  I had a lot of time, and the TWW was sooooooo looooong.

Onehappymum, clexane is going OK. I find the needles really blunt too and they make a kind of popping sound when I stick in the needle. I have the most horrific bruises on my stomach. I guess it makes sense for the bruising to be worse though, right? Because it makes you bleed more. Or something.

Good luck for this cycle!




#58 possumwrangler

Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:08 PM

Hi, this is a great post, really informative. We've just found out that we're unable to conceive naturally and both the specialist and the naturopath recommended IVF! It's hard to get an exact idea of what is involved from the IVF clinic websites so this blog helped fill a big gap in my knowledge so far. We meet with the IVF doctors next week. I also reckon it's good to get the story out there, so other people realise what's involved. My sister (who fell pregnant really easily) didn't get the gravity of the (in)fertility news cause she thought IVF would be a quick easy fix...I'm forwarding this blog to her and my husband! Good luck and thanks for all your blogs - although this is the first time I've commented, the posts have been a big help.

#59 at2009

Posted 31 August 2010 - 11:19 AM

Hi Prue,

Thank you for your blog, it is always so honest, and often entertaining, and definitely helps me to try to balance myself.  Preparing for, and undertaking an IVF cycle has been hard work mentally and emotionally for me, and it helps to read of others experiences.  

I have only done one cycle, so I can't imagine what more than one is like.  And I don't have lots of fertility concerns to worry about, we are an MFI couple really.  But goodness, I feel exhausted at the end of this (never mind that one of the side effects of the drugs is tiredness, from all the stuff you take!)  But I did want to add, I have used the Crinone gel, and it is quite good.  Once a day only, at bedtime, and hardly any mess!  There is a bit, but it isn't much to worry about.  I would be interested to know if there is a reason for using one over another, though, or is it just what the FS and clinics are used to?

Also, I don't take Clexane, but I have had warfarin injections in the past, and gotten big bruises from them.  They both do the same sort of thing - stop your blood from clotting properly, and hopefully avoid lots of problems (DVT in legs for me).  You do "bleed more" but only because you aren't clotting properly - hence the briuises.  Hopefully you don't have to wear a bikini any day soon!

Good luck with your TWW, hopefully this is the one!
AT

#60 Spaniel

Posted 31 August 2010 - 02:36 PM

Hi Prue

I have been thinking about your comment that a possible next step for you may be an endometrial biopsy (not that you are going to need one!). I thought I would share my experience of this with you and anybody else going through fertility treatment. I had five failed IVF cycles plus IUI's plus chlomid cycles. Always had one high grade blasto but it never implanted. I asked my clinic about factors that could affect implantation - their response was that I had not done enough cycles for this to be an issue worth looking into. I changed clinics and persuaded the FS to perform an endometrial biopsy he had to send it to Sydney as we live in Perth and there was nobody qualified to examine the biopsy. As it turned out I had chronic endometritis (an inflammation of the endometrial lining not endometriosis). Required a strong course of ABs and 3 months of progesterone. I did conceive on the next IVF cycle but it was an ectopic pregnancy. I am convinced that the endometritis was the missing link. I have since learned that this test is fairly standard in the USA. I'm not suggesting that everybody should have this test if implantation is a potential issue just putting the information out there if anybody wants to use it.



  Good luck with the rest of your cycle!

#61 Baby4Trudy

Posted 31 August 2010 - 04:00 PM

Thank you Prue for a truly funny and honest account of IVF. As one who has been there multiple times over I know exactly what you are talking about. It's also hard to explain to others just how complex it all is. You're ruled by times, injections, pills and all manner of other things and you still have to get on with work, taking care of the home and whatever else needs attending too.

I think my favourite line from you though is about the general anesthetic. I couldn't agree more. The night before the procedure I barely sleep - not wanting to miss the appointment and because of the discomfort of a grossly distended stomach from all those eggs. Those few minutes as I lay on the operating table and the anesthetist gives me that injection and I know I'm about to go into a blissful sleep I'm chatty, happy and looking forward to the oblivion.

Thankfully for us, after eight attempts, each one a fresh cycle, we have our baby on the way. It was the first time I'd taken the CoQ10, fish oil, etc cocktail and I also had acupuncture. I honestly attribute much of that to our success.

My fingers are crossed for you.

#62 leafgirl

Posted 02 September 2010 - 04:53 PM

Love your article Prue, thankyou for sharing your experience and I am hoping and praying for you that this is the one. I haven't been having generals for my egg pickups, so you get to have a bit of a narc hit for the whole procedure - I actually much prefer being awake - to see what's going on as well as the drugs! It's really quite quick and easy (well for me at least as I don't usually have that many follicles). Have had 8 EPU with general and 3 without.

Dear Baby4Trudy, we have been in similar situation to you - 9 fresh cycles. Thinking it may be the end of the road. Can you let us know the rest of your 'cocktail' besides CoQ10, fish oil. Did you have acupuncture whole cycle or just at transfer? Sorry to intrude with this on this thread - not sure how to ask you the question and start new thread at the same time. BTW congratulations, too.




#63 missyt

Posted 15 September 2010 - 02:08 PM

Hi Prue

Just wanted to check in and see how you are going. I have now read all of your blogs and they really are spot on and therefore hilarious! Hope you are well.  bbighug.gif

#64 FuzzyChocolateToes

Posted 20 September 2010 - 11:48 AM

Wow.  I knew ladies doing IVF had to put up with a lot of poking and prodding, but I didn't realise just how much.  I have learnt alot from your story!  If it's not too rude to ask - what sort of costs are involved to you and your patner?  I'm guessing it is quite a bit.  Does private health insurance help at all?  I've not been on the AC wagon, though I did need some help from an acupuncturist/Chines medicine practitioner and I know she also saw a lot of women to assist with their IVF cycles.  Each visit to her was $100 per week and I did wonder how the ladies doing IVF must have been spending each week. sad.gif

Good luck.

#65 TheClampetts

Posted 21 September 2010 - 02:18 PM

Okay so am I the only person checking in daily for an update ph34r.gif

I am turning into a mad stalker lady which is probably why her blog is now private  ph34r.gif  blush.gif  cry1.gif

#66 leafgirl

Posted 22 September 2010 - 04:23 PM

I am too!

#67 Salathome

Posted 23 September 2010 - 01:56 PM

Yep, I am checking every so often too, it reminds me of the 18 months worth of cycles it took me to get pregnant again via IVF. But no doubt like everyone else, I totally understand Prue's silence and either way, and, whether it's now or next time, as the Americans'd say, we're all rootin' for you Prue!

#68 Guest_millie75_*

Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:43 PM

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#69 prue~c

Posted 24 September 2010 - 11:20 AM

Thanks for stalking girls! I haven't gone quiet - I did another post all about the superstitions, but for some reason EB didn't promote it, so no one read it. sad.gif

Don't worry, I have another one ready to go this weekend. original.gif


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If it's not too rude to ask - what sort of costs are involved to you and your patner? I'm guessing it is quite a bit. Does private health insurance help at all? I've not been on the AC wagon, though I did need some help from an acupuncturist/Chines medicine practitioner and I know she also saw a lot of women to assist with their IVF cycles. Each visit to her was $100 per week and I did wonder how the ladies doing IVF must have been spending each week.


Not rude at all ednaboo. In fact the cost is one of the dirtiest things about IVF. It's hard paying so much money for something that most people get for free. In Australia we have a pretty good Medicare system and we get a lot of the money back, but it's still got a lot of out of pocket expenses. And the up-front costs are very expensive.

My partner and I are lucky enough to be professional DINKS, so we can afford it with out too much pressure, but for some people, it's a real struggle.

An IVF/ICSI cycle at my clinic costs about $7500 up front. There are out of pocket expenses for anaesthetist, theatre, embryo transfer, and embryo storage (if you are lucky enough to have some to freeze). PHI picks up the cost of the theatre and embryo transfer, but if you aren't covered I believe the costs are around $2000 out of pocket per fresh stim cycle.

Of that up from $7500, once the Medicare safety net is hit (around $1700 per year out of pocket medical expenses) your out of pockets are about $2000. Then there are fees for extras like progesterone pessaries, drugs like pregnyl ($60) Lucrin ($150) and ovidrel ($25) which I think you get a bit of a refund if you spend more than $1500 in a calendar year.

If you are doing a FET, the out of pockets are about $1200 per cycle.

So it's not cheap. For me, PHI is a no brainer. The OOP expenses for just one egg pick up are more than my yearly premium, so it makes total sense to have it.

Then if you choose complementary therapies on top of that, like acupuncture, it adds to the total expense. There are also the vitamins (menevit for example, is not cheap. About $50 per month) I take Clexane, which is about $1.60 per injection... there can be a lot of extra expenses depending on your protocol, but we are so lucky in Australia. We have it easy compared to countries like the US. A Puregon pen, which here costs less than $20, is about $500 in the US. In US dollars. I try not to whinge about costs, because in America, IVF is almost exclusively for the middle-upper income earners.



#70 MotherClucker

Posted 03 October 2010 - 08:57 AM

ph34r.gif Hope everything is well!

#71 TheClampetts

Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:34 AM

Ahhh you're killing me with the suspense!!!!!!!

#72 jules363

Posted 08 October 2010 - 08:28 AM

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#73 Guest_onehappymum_*

Posted 10 October 2010 - 09:33 PM

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#74 Seuss

Posted 11 October 2010 - 08:45 AM

gotta say... when you get people involed in a story they like to know the outcome!

#75 ThatsNotMyName

Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:44 PM

Still eagerly checking every time I open EB, hope all is well Prue.




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