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Mem Fox's Husband Guilty
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#1 virtuallotus

Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:49 PM

Was shocked to read this.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/07/08/3264890.htm


Seem that although he was found guilty, they (Mem and her husband) were trying to paint the teenager as the sexual aggressor.  sad.gif

#2 GeraniumQueen

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:09 PM

moving to Celebrity News original.gif

#3 Anti-Socialite

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:13 PM

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Edited by Anti-Socialite, 17 August 2011 - 09:57 PM.


#4 Lyra

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (Anti-Socialite @ 08/07/2011, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's pretty trivialising. Child abuse is not just some 'hot gossip'. I think this should be in the News section.



I would have to agree with that

#5 Guest_starbellied_*

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:18 PM

Mem fox released an article saying that women who work and put children in day care are abusing their children while she openly supports a man who did sexually abuse a child (and they try and turn the victim into the perpetrator).

sad.gif



#6 ~J.E.S.S.I.C.A~

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:24 PM

OMG. There are no words sad.gif sick.gif. Other than Mem Fox is a hypocrite with a capital H.

I also find it poor form that this thread was moved to Celebrity News.

Edited by *blossom*, 08 July 2011 - 07:26 PM.


#7 tenar

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:29 PM

I see nothing in that article to suggest that Mem Fox was painting the teen as the aggressor.  I also see nothing wrong with supporting your husband.  Maybe she believes his version of events - it wouldn't be the first time someone believed their spouse, even in situations that might not be all that believable.

I love my husband.  If he were on trial for something, no matter what it was, I would also attend to support him, even if the thing he was accused of was similarly heinous.   More so if I believed him innocent.

#8 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (Anti-Socialite @ 08/07/2011, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's pretty trivialising. Child abuse is not just some 'hot gossip'. I think this should be in the News section.


Agree. GQ, would you please move it to the news section?


QUOTE (starbellied @ 08/07/2011, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mem fox released an article saying that women who work and put children in day care are abusing their children while she openly supports a man who did sexually abuse a child (and they try and turn the victim into the perpetrator).

sad.gif


I've been turned off of Mem Fox ever since she released that article, and this turn of events does nothing to change my feelings for the better.

Hope her vile husband enjoys a lengthy stay in prison.

Here is another article, one which outlines how Fox tried to portray the VICTIM as the perpetrator. Scum of the earth pervert.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/natio...f-1226090782380

Edited by baddmammajamma, 08 July 2011 - 07:39 PM.


#9 Helena Handbasket

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:34 PM

How vile.

Another who agrees that this thread does not belong in a celebrity gossip thread.

#10 GeraniumQueen

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:37 PM

Apologies Ladies, serious Friday evening lack of judgement sad.gif Moved back to News.

#11 ducks-on-the-dam

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:41 PM

To tell the truth I'm not surprised at all.

Try looking at the illustrations in her book  "Guess What?"  and you may just get to see why.

I can't read her books with a easy mind now after I read this book several years ago.



#12 SqueakyPeanut

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE
Mem fox released an article saying that women who work and put children in day care are abusing their children while she openly supports a man who did sexually abuse a child (and they try and turn the victim into the perpetrator).


This is what I was thinking when I read it.  I think her attitude is just disgraceful and it makes so annoyed that I don't think I will buy anymore of her books.

#13 CocobeanLillylove

Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:55 PM

I feel really sorry for her.

What an awful thing to happen - to have your husband found guilty of something like this. You would feel like your married life was a lie.

#14 The Awesome One

Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:48 PM

so is he saying he never went near the boy? or just that it wasnt forced?

QUOTE
What an awful thing to happen - to have your husband found guilty of something like this. You would feel like your married life was a lie.
this is how I would feel

#15 GWTW

Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:00 PM

I remember hearing him discuss how the boy come onto him, pull down his pants and start masturbating him before he had a chance to stop it. WTF?!

#16 EsmeLennox

Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:09 PM

I doubt this is as cut and dried as some people would like to think. Unquestionably, Fox did the wrong thing and deserves to be punished as he was an adult and in a position of power in relation to the 17 year old. But I suspect the 17 year old probably was involved in making advances too - after all the judge found that it was 'consensual'. And a 17 year old is hardly the same thing as a 12 year old or even a 15 year old. I wouldn't even classify a 17 year old as a child in any other way than a legal sense.

That said, Fox was defnitely in the wrong and should have rejected the 17 year old's advances and nor should he have pursued him.

And yes, despite what I may think about Mem Fox's comments about parents putting children in daycare I can still feel some compassion for her in this situation. How awful it must be to find out something like this about your husband.



#17 BetteBoop

Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (Jemstar @ 08/07/2011, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt this is as cut and dried as some people would like to think. Unquestionably, Fox did the wrong thing and deserves to be punished as he was an adult and in a position of power in relation to the 17 year old. But I suspect the 17 year old probably was involved in making advances too - after all the judge found that it was 'consensual'. And a 17 year old is hardly the same thing as a 12 year old or even a 15 year old. I wouldn't even classify a 17 year old as a child in any other way than a legal sense.

That said, Fox was defnitely in the wrong and should have rejected the 17 year old's advances and nor should he have pursued him.


No, I think it is exactly as cut and dried as people think. The boy went to him - as an adult he trusted - to confide that he had been sexually abused. Fox was a teacher and knew it was illegal to take advantage of a vulnerable, abused child for his own purposes. Whether the child consented is irrelevant.

Fox is a predator. His wife has lost my sympathy for continuing to support him. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't do the same if my husband was a child abuser. I know many women do, often at their own children's expense but I have no sympathy for them.

As for denigrating the victim, it's standard practice in these trials.

#18 EsmeLennox

Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:34 PM

I didn't say I agreed with her actions, I said I can feel compassion for her. There is a difference.

And as I said, he is in the wrong, totally, but I do think there's more to it.

#19 baddmammajamma

Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:34 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 08/07/2011, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I think it is exactly as cut and dried as people think. The boy went to him - as an adult he trusted - to confide that he had been sexually abused. Fox was a teacher and knew it was illegal to take advantage of a vulnerable, abused child for his own purposes. Whether the child consented is irrelevant.

Fox is a predator. His wife has lost my sympathy for continuing to support him. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't do the same if my husband was a child abuser. I know many women do, often at their own children's expense but I have no sympathy for them.

As for denigrating the victim, it's standard practice in these trials.


Perfectly stated.

#20 macysmum

Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:59 PM

The whole thing makes me feel quite ill. The actual crime is bad enough, but the way Mem and her husband have conducted themselves during and after is disgraceful.

#21 CocobeanLillylove

Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:04 PM

I'm really disappointed! I've loved Mem Fox since I was a child. Now to hear these stories about her makes me a little devo - I don't think I can read her stories to my kids without thinking about it now. Damn wish I never opened this thread.

#22 glitters

Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:15 PM

You can read into it and justify it as much as you like, at the end of the day, Fox is a dirty old pervert and he was a rather disgusting role model. He should be sent to jail, whether the boy was 7 or 17 - consenting or not, he still had sex with a CHILD!!!

end of story.

#23 tenar

Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE (BetteBoop @ 08/07/2011, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fox is a predator. His wife has lost my sympathy for continuing to support him. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't do the same if my husband was a child abuser. I know many women do, often at their own children's expense but I have no sympathy for them.


Fox has been convicted as a predator.  True (but only since today).  We have to hope that the judgement is correct and I do have faith in our legal system to get this kind of thing right.

But stop now and imagine that it was your partner who was accused of this and who denied the allegations.  Are all you posters who express disgust in Mem's behaviour really saying that you would believe the word of a teenager over the word of your husband/partner every time, even if it was something as important (not to mention revolting and criminal) as this?   What if you believed your partner incapable of such an act?  

I know that I would believe in my husband first, not his accuser.  It would probably take a lot of convincing for me to think otherwise.  I trust my husband: most people do trust their partner.  It's not like she caught them "in the act" - maybe she has no evidence either way and maybe she has not heard the teenager's story in person before this trial.  

I feel very sorry for the victim of the crime and also for Mem Fox, whose name is getting dragged into the mud over this thing that she had no involvement in and in which she is doing what most of us would do: trusting and supporting her spouse.  If her husband had been found innocent would you have thought that her supportive actions were wrong then, or is it that you people have a problem with the idea that she might not have known he was guilty?  




#24 CocobeanLillylove

Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (tenar @ 08/07/2011, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fox has been convicted as a predator. True (but only since today). We have to hope that the judgement is correct and I do have faith in our legal system to get this kind of thing right.

But stop now and imagine that it was your partner who was accused of this and who denied the allegations. Are all you posters who express disgust in Mem's behaviour really saying that you would believe the word of a teenager over the word of your husband/partner every time, even if it was something as important (not to mention revolting and criminal) as this? What if you believed your partner incapable of such an act?

I know that I would believe in my husband first, not his accuser. It would probably take a lot of convincing for me to think otherwise. I trust my husband: most people do trust their partner. It's not like she caught them "in the act" - maybe she has no evidence either way and maybe she has not heard the teenager's story in person before this trial.

I feel very sorry for the victim of the crime and also for Mem Fox, whose name is getting dragged into the mud over this thing that she had no involvement in and in which she is doing what most of us would do: trusting and supporting her spouse. If her husband had been found innocent would you have thought that her supportive actions were wrong then, or is it that you people have a problem with the idea that she might not have known he was guilty?


But has Mr Fox admitted to having the affair with this boy? Or does he deny any interaction on his part at all?

#25 Azadel

Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:48 PM

Reading that in SA the age of consent is higher if the older party is on a position of authority, I think that is a good law.




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