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#1 Kylie Orr

Posted 10 November 2011 - 10:54 AM

In my short years of parenting, I’ve found the hardest thing so far, the thing I detest the most, the task I dread above all else, is toilet training.

I dream of a camp where you send your toddlers wearing nappies and they exit in undies. Completely toilet trained. I’d pay good money for that kind of service.

Plenty of parents have managed toilet training without drama. And to them I say, lucky you! It’s luck. And persistence. It’s timing and tolerance. It’s whether you have a kid who gets it, is compliant and interested. It’s how many Freddo frogs you’re willing to barter and how many “special” undies you’re ready to sacrifice.

If it were simply about a parent’s determination then my children would have been trained at birth. Some proud parents attribute their own skills of instruction and persuasion, which I find amusing given they have little control over their child’s bowel and bladder activity. You can coax and direct until the cows come home but if you have a child who is disinterested, recalcitrant or apprehensive then those approaches are futile.

For my first child, I heeded recommendations to wait for signs of readiness. I thought the longer I waited, the easier it would be. Stories of “trained in one day” and “no accidents” rang in my ears so I waited until he was almost three. They were right. He got the wee concept in a day. Poo? Four months. Poo.In.Undies. For FOUR MONTHS. I was beside myself. My mum assured me he would not go to school in nappies and she was right. He actually day and night trained all in one, over a period of about four months, so was sorted by a little over three. Well within “normal” range. Just a painful experience. Mostly for me.

I dreaded when the second child approached toilet training age but he was happy to trot off to the loo and seemed to understand the concept quicker – perhaps the older brother’s influence can be credited.

So, toddler number three is at the age where poo is just so disgusting (“human poo” my husband calls it) that the only place for it is the toilet. He showed so many signs of readiness but just when we thought a corner was turned, he chuckled to himself and pooped in undies. Again. No promises of “big boy undies” or “bush wees” would lure him. No star chart, no lollies, no stickers or toys. He couldn’t care less. It took MONTHS and we still have accidents and I’m really hoping I haven’t jinxed it by writing it here, but I think we may have achieved golden undies status.  

When I was in the stinky sewers of toilet training my first, thinking I was such a failure at this parenting game because he just wasn’t co-operating, I came onto EB for some advice. A lovely member, (I’m sorry I can’t remember who but please put your hand up if it was you), mentioned the concept of the “Poo Party”.
It involved telling your child that if you poo in the toilet, it goes to a party under the house. Kinda gross. Kinda funny. And we all know kids love gross and funny. And parties, even if they involve poo.

So, with the inspiration from that idea, I wrote a little poem..

The Poo Party

You are a big kid now
Learning to poo
On the potty, the big toilet
Or some call it a Loo

I have a special secret to share
It’s about a great party
Everyone’s poo will be there.

You see, when you do poo on the loo
It goes down a slide, yelling “woohoo!”

And under the house is where the poo meets
Mum’s poo, Dad’s poo and even brother, Pete’s!

They all get together, play games and sing songs
There’s hats and balloons and before long
Another poo comes sliding down the S-bend
To join in the fun with all of its friends.

But this tale has another side
Some poo will miss out on the ride.
If you do poo in your pants
That poo won’t get a chance
To dance at the poo party under the house

There’ll be no fun with all the other poos
It will be sad and lost and won’t know what to do.

So next time you feel the need
When there’s poos coming
Or maybe just wees,
Think of your poo and where it should go
In your pants? Or down the loo and below?

How has your & your child’s toilet training experience been? Any nuggets of knowledge (sorry, couldn't resist) you’d like to share?


Kylie


#2 Stained

Posted 10 November 2011 - 11:02 AM

I waited and waited for DS1 to be ready. A little after 3 he seemed to be and we went great guns for a couple of weeks and then he went way backwards. The stress of it was killing me so I put him back in nappies and tried again in another few weeks. It was a loooong haul and we still have way too many accidents for my liking.
I cant stand toilet training. Maybe DS2 will be easier...

#3 Jamandcream

Posted 11 November 2011 - 12:14 PM

DD1 was a breeze to toilet train. She was out of nappies by 2. DD2 was the same. DS was a bit later but certainly easy enough and in the all clear of nappies by 3.

DD3 on the other hand.....ARGH! I tear my hair out constantly trying to convince her to use the toilet. She is soooooo stubborn. She has only now a 3.5 decided that toilet training is worthy of her consideration, but only when she wants to.

BAH. I hate toilet training.

#4 mewsings

Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:50 PM

I used the poo party story with DD who's now 5- she was 2 and it worked a treat.  If you do a poo in the toilet, it's the right shape and can fit through the door at the poo party,  but if you do it in your pants and it's all flat,  it can't get through the door and misses out.  I've posted it a couple of times but I was by no means the first to do so.

DS who is now 2 is at the waving and saying 'bye poo'  as we flush also loves that story.  Hopefully it will get him out of nappies sooner rather than later.

I first heard the about poo parties at our playgroup,  I'd love to know who thought it up originally.


#5 Delayfish

Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:52 PM

I have started toilet training for the 3rd time today. First child was a breeze, she really did it all herself, but of course I patted myself on the back at how clever I was at toilet training. My second child taught me that I knew absolutely nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. My third child managed to not wet his pants for 7 minutes today  rolleyes.gif I think I'm in for a looooong summer!

Love the poem biggrin.gif

#6 onehappymum

Posted 11 November 2011 - 09:05 PM

roll2.gif love the poem

my 3yr old is pretty much TT...I just can't quite get him to understand that just because the dogs poo on the lawn doesn't mean he can, which has happened a couple of times.  He actually said to me after recently pooing in the back yard "but Chilli did a poo in the yard"...hmmmm

I don't think I'll try the poo party, sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.  DS1 looooves parties and is likely to send some of his toys to the party too nno.gif

#7 alreadyagran

Posted 12 November 2011 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Kylie Orr @ 10/11/2011, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my short years of parenting, I’ve found the hardest thing so far, the thing I detest the most, the task I dread above all else, is toilet training.

I dream of a camp where you send your toddlers wearing nappies and they exit in undies. Completely toilet trained. I’d pay good money for that kind of service.

Plenty of parents have managed toilet training without drama. And to them I say, lucky you! It’s luck. And persistence. It’s timing and tolerance. It’s whether you have a kid who gets it, is compliant and interested. It’s how many Freddo frogs you’re willing to barter and how many “special” undies you’re ready to sacrifice.

If it were simply about a parent’s determination then my children would have been trained at birth. Some proud parents attribute their own skills of instruction and persuasion, which I find amusing given they have little control over their child’s bowel and bladder activity. You can coax and direct until the cows come home but if you have a child who is disinterested, recalcitrant or apprehensive then those approaches are futile.

For my first child, I heeded recommendations to wait for signs of readiness. I thought the longer I waited, the easier it would be. Stories of “trained in one day” and “no accidents” rang in my ears so I waited until he was almost three. They were right. He got the wee concept in a day. Poo? Four months. Poo.In.Undies. For FOUR MONTHS. I was beside myself. My mum assured me he would not go to school in nappies and she was right. He actually day and night trained all in one, over a period of about four months, so was sorted by a little over three. Well within “normal” range. Just a painful experience. Mostly for me.

I dreaded when the second child approached toilet training age but he was happy to trot off to the loo and seemed to understand the concept quicker – perhaps the older brother’s influence can be credited.

So, toddler number three is at the age where poo is just so disgusting (“human poo” my husband calls it) that the only place for it is the toilet. He showed so many signs of readiness but just when we thought a corner was turned, he chuckled to himself and pooped in undies. Again. No promises of “big boy undies” or “bush wees” would lure him. No star chart, no lollies, no stickers or toys. He couldn’t care less. It took MONTHS and we still have accidents and I’m really hoping I haven’t jinxed it by writing it here, but I think we may have achieved golden undies status.  

When I was in the stinky sewers of toilet training my first, thinking I was such a failure at this parenting game because he just wasn’t co-operating, I came onto EB for some advice. A lovely member, (I’m sorry I can’t remember who but please put your hand up if it was you), mentioned the concept of the “Poo Party”.
It involved telling your child that if you poo in the toilet, it goes to a party under the house. Kinda gross. Kinda funny. And we all know kids love gross and funny. And parties, even if they involve poo.

So, with the inspiration from that idea, I wrote a little poem..

The Poo Party

You are a big kid now
Learning to poo
On the potty, the big toilet
Or some call it a Loo

I have a special secret to share
It’s about a great party
Everyone’s poo will be there.

You see, when you do poo on the loo
It goes down a slide, yelling “woohoo!”

And under the house is where the poo meets
Mum’s poo, Dad’s poo and even brother, Pete’s!

They all get together, play games and sing songs
There’s hats and balloons and before long
Another poo comes sliding down the S-bend
To join in the fun with all of its friends.

But this tale has another side
Some poo will miss out on the ride.
If you do poo in your pants
That poo won’t get a chance
To dance at the poo party under the house

There’ll be no fun with all the other poos
It will be sad and lost and won’t know what to do.

So next time you feel the need
When there’s poos coming
Or maybe just wees,
Think of your poo and where it should go
In your pants? Or down the loo and below?

How has your & your child’s toilet training experience been? Any nuggets of knowledge (sorry, couldn't resist) you’d like to share?


Kylie



#8 alreadyagran

Posted 12 November 2011 - 01:32 AM

Hi Kylie,

Absolutely love this blog.  From my memory it definately depends on the childs determination.  MY dd2 sat on a potty chair,(of her own accord) for a couple of hours then presented me with a little sheeps poo and proceeded to demand to wear undies, just like her big sister!  But alas ds was not at all remotely interested, personally I feel boys are way too lazy/ busy to be bothered with the messiness of toilet training when there are games to be played......but watch out once they have decided it is time it is kind of like just get on with it.

Whatever way your child is trained it shouldn't be a stressful process, it is only such a short period of time in your child's life, lets hope it is not the most importanct achievement of their life!

As for the poo story, wherever it started it is absolutely brilliant.  Kylie I actually laughed out loud at your poem.

Young mums keep up the good work and know it is great to be a grandmother and read these blogs, they give me memories that make me laugh so often.

Alreadyagran

#9 Sienna81

Posted 17 November 2011 - 04:23 AM

I toilet trained 3 kids with many tears (mostly from me) by the age of 2 1/2 - 3 yrs and now I have a 3 1/2 year old who has ZERO interest... and I don't know what to do.... I think he might be the kid who goes to school in nappies..... maybe the poo party story will help. someone should make it into a book!

Edited by Sienna81, 17 November 2011 - 04:24 AM.


#10 rose888

Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:22 PM

When I was toilrt training my kids in the 80's there was a book called "Toilet Training in a Single Day" that was on the best seller lists for years.

Sadly for me at least it was a very long day....

#11 Freddie'sMum

Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:57 PM

*nods head in agreement*

Oh - and Kylie - 4 months of poo-ing in undies ??

I will swap that for my DD#1 who I have taken to doctors / paed / specialists / medications - offered every single treat in the world, have cried, sworn (yes, sworn), bribed, cajoled, pleaded and BEGGED to use the toilet to do a poo.

She currently has a star chart that she puts a tick on when she does a poo in the loo.  She's 6-and-a-half.





#12 mibi

Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:08 AM

My first DS was like yours Kylie - got the wee sorted quite quickly - poos were another story. He was a 2 poo a day kid and it took him NINE MONTHS to get that sorted - 2 poos in undies a day for 9 bl**dy months! It was with trepidation that I started TT DS#2. He was probably ready a good 6 months before I was, but it was all over and done with within in a week or so. DD is still a bit little. I'm told that girls are easier.....I'm not holding my breath.....well maybe I am.

#13 Familymatters

Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:48 AM

Long time reader first time blogger. I've always used this site as a great source of helpful information in raising my three children. Not sure if this blog is still current as I only just came across it when looking up some information to help my sister with her little boy and toilet training. Although her little boy aged 3 needed help with peeing as well not just poo.

He was keen to stand up on a stool and pee straight into the toilet as he didn't want to have to sit (to quote "Pee like a girl")

When searching on the net i found this cool Australian product called the widdleman.

Here's a link http://widdleman.com/


You stick it onto the back toilet wall. It has a target and when your child pees onto the target it gives him a score on the little LCD screen and offers words of encouragement.

It's really cute. Just bought one for my little man. I can highly recommend it.

And one thing I really liked is that it told him to remember to put the seat down. Teach them while there young i say. original.gif

Come to think of it, my husband has be retrained. What do they say about old dog and new tricks:)

#14 littlemiss*nat

Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

Oh i couldnt stand the toilet training..

I must say i was very lucky that is was summer for both kids around the time it started.

Warm Weather ? ... Awesome! Outside we go ! All day ! No pants or nappies on the kids.. It didnt matter

whether it was wee or poo .... it was outside ! They could see it too, so it was understood what it was and

where it came from. It didnt take long for them to go to the toilet... Night time though? A lot longer original.gif

A great idea for parents with boys? Buy a lemon tree and teach them its fun to wee on it .Youll get great

lemons!

#15 Mrs Mummy

Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:01 PM

My DD is 2 yrs and 4 months, she is great with doing wees on in the toilet and tells me when she needs to go. Number 2s however are a different story, she will hide and tell me she doesn't need to go.

Last week we went to our friends house for a BBQ where there were about 20 other parents and children. I saw my DD doing the push face and and successfully got her to the toilet in time. Great I thought, I could relax. She'll be fine now as she does one poo a day. All is clear. So I put her back in training pants. Oh dear no, as we were calling the toddlers to dinner. DD runs up to me and says " MUMMY I HAVE POO ON MY KNEE!" and to my horror she had pooed again and it was everywhere! I carried her to the toilet and I honestly did not know where to start. It was like trainspotting scene in there! I'm talking a thousand wipes and most of the loo roll!!

I started toilet training when she turned 2 and I am just going to keep going, I am not going to give up and put her back in nappies as it will be too confusing for her. I think consistancy is the way to go even with all the emabarrassing dramas along the way. Just got to remember the change of knickers and pants! rolleyes.gif




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