[kpingitquiet]

There are plenty of old evil people. Don't romanticize the elderly. Rot.

[Guest_holy_j_*]

I agree with a lot of what people are saying, that there should not be a statue of limitations on murder.

But I really wonder how much choice men in the Nazi army had. Those who didn't follow orders faced pretty harsh punishment and could be executed.

I don't know the specifics of this case though.

They didn't have much choice at all from what my father has told me...his father was in the german army, fought,got captured and was a POW in france not returning home until 3 years after the war ended. He was no soldier, he was a gardener by trade! You did what you got told to do.

There's a big difference because killing armed opponents in war to volunteering for a squad of SS hitmen and murdering civilians in their places of work. Google this man, it's on wikipedia and other sites. One of his victims was a father of 12. The indoctrination was certainly there also, my dad even remembers attending nazi rallies as a child and seeing hitler, and was a part of the youth movement..however indoctrination cannot excuse this man's actions, he needs to be punished.

[Maple Leaf]

Age should not excuse anyone from serving their time.

[censura carnero]

Are people who are forced to participate in war crimes that have been brain washed utterly that what they are doing is for the greater good evil? Did he have a choice? I don't know. The bugger probably deserves to rot but it makes me wonder how many people do things they would never do because they are also victims.

[Flibbertigibbert...]

Are people who are forced to participate in war crimes that have been brain washed utterly that what they are doing is for the greater good evil? Did he have a choice? I don't know. The bugger probably deserves to rot but it makes me wonder how many people do things they would never do because they are also victims.

I'm convinced of his guilt and he is a scumbag of the highest order, I'm sure he wouldn't have spared a thought for his victims regardless of their age or abilities. I picture my nanna at that age and she was so frail. Maybe DH is right, I'm too much of a softie.

[rbat]

But I really wonder how much choice men in the Nazi army had. Those who didn't follow orders faced pretty harsh punishment and could be executed.

I personally don't care about their choices. If they had stood up to Hitler as a collective force, he could not have done what he did. You only need to read, look at the photographs and footage of that time to witness that horror. The crimes they committed were inhumane and barbaric in the highest possible order. Jail is the very least of the punishment that should have been bestowed on them.

[Guest_holy_j_*]

I personally don't care about their choices. If they had stood up to Hitler as a collective force, he could not have done what he did. You only need to read, look at the photographs and footage of that time to witness that horror. The crimes they committed were inhumane and barbaric in the highest possible order. Jail is the very least of the punishment that should have been bestowed on them.

The argument was, was it a choice? its very well to say that I wouldn't have chosen that, until you are faced with the situation you wouldn't know.

[la di dah]

I'm convinced of his guilt and he is a scumbag of the highest order, I'm sure he wouldn't have spared a thought for his victims regardless of their age or abilities. I picture my nanna at that age and she was so frail. Maybe DH is right, I'm too much of a softie.

My extended family buried a Holocaust survivor this year. I say extended because she was my aunt by marriage but I grew up thinking of her as a third grandma. She was very frail and she was very lonely in her old age because she didn't have the extended family and siblings and stuff the other older women in her retirement community had.

She was desperately sad that the other old women would ask her about her siblings/cousins. She hadn't had any for sixty years. Neither had her husband. He died when I was five. She never remarried.

She was quite old and frail too.

I'm imagining telling her that because somebody managed to not pay for sixty years that they deserve to have the same gentle retirement she does. After all, they're old now.

So are the families of their victims, the widows, the children? Might as well give them maybe a year of solace.

[Femogan Boop!]

I personally don't care about their choices. If they had stood up to Hitler as a collective force, he could not have done what he did. You only need to read, look at the photographs and footage of that time to witness that horror. The crimes they committed were inhumane and barbaric in the highest possible order. Jail is the very least of the punishment that should have been bestowed on them.

Everyone stood by and watched it happen. My grandparents lived in Poland when WW2 broke out. Everyone knew the tens of thousands of Jews arriving couldn't be housed in Krakow so they were obviously being killed.

German citizens knew about the massacres and did nothing. They knew the smoke coming from concentration camps was bodies because of the smell. Countries like Australia and America turned a blind eye to the murder of 8 million people and refused refugees who arrived on their shores who were later executed in Germany.

The responsibility to stop Hitler was with everyone at that time, not just the Nazi party.

[rbat]

The argument was, was it a choice? its very well to say that I wouldn't have chosen that, until you are faced with the situation you wouldn't know.

I truly don't care about if it was a choice or not. They did the crime and deserve every punishment they get, even if they are 90 when they are caught and brought to justice.