[hiddensecrets]

after reading a few things and talking to some people I finally decided to ask Safe-N-Sound: if a child is over the weight limit of 22kg (crash tested weight) but under the height markers can they stay in the inbuilt harness....I even thew the figure of 26kg in as a ball park figure.

They told me that YES if a child is over 22kg (even 26kg) but under the height markers they can stay in the harness as its safer.

Response: it's unlikely that 26kg child would fit into the harness under the shoulder height marker however if they did and they are under the height marker it is safe for them the travel in

I am struggling to get my head around it.

How can they say this if the seats are tested to 22kg?? How would this hold up insurance wise??

(my sisters daughter will be over 22kg before she reaches the height markers which is why I asked)

Just want to know if someone can explain.....

[ednaboo]

Was that advice from a customer service rep or from a technician or engineer? I would be wanting that in writing from an engineer before I would consider going beyond 22kg.

[K+M+A+P]

What SNS seat is it OP?
As far as I'm aware all the SNS seats nowadays only go off the height markers. DD has the SNS Guardian in my parents car and the manual says to use seat until child has reached height marker. No mention anywhere of a weight limit.

[fillesetjumeaux]

Didn't IsolaBella say in another thread that the new SnS seats (the 2010 ones with height markers) were tested with a 25kg dummy? If this is the case, there's your answer (but not for 26kg ).

[hiddensecrets]

What SNS seat is it OP?
As far as I'm aware all the SNS seats nowadays only go off the height markers. DD has the SNS Guardian in my parents car and the manual says to use seat until child has reached height marker. No mention anywhere of a weight limit.

Any current seat apparently....I was just intrigued because I thought that even though there are no weight markers there would still be a cut off point considering they are tested to 22kg only......Even my sister said regardless of her daughters height once she gets to 22kg she will be out of those seats because if they are only tested to that who can tell if they are going to be ok for any higher weight. This is the only reason I am confused...the testing weight vs. actually not listening to it at all.

I am hoping the Type G restraints will come into it.

[lsolaBella]

No as far as I know 22kg testing is what is done according to the standard. I do believe some on another board contacted SnS who said they did overload testing BUT like Endaboo I would be wanting that in writing from an Engineering Tech rather then just Customer Service

(what we currently are aware of is that SnS are testing their seats RF with 15kgs test dummies - which would be in line with the proposed new standard of type A4 seats). The proposed new standard higher weight limit seats are to contain 10yro test dummies and at a 32kg re weighted to 36kgs, so as the minimum height child to be contained at around 130cm I do not believe the current seats would be tested like this.

SnS Customer Service just have the 'lines to say' and don't deviate from that. Pushing further (usually quoting the Standard) I have found is better to get an Engineering Tech response.

[hiddensecrets]

SnS Customer Service just have the 'lines to say' and don't deviate from that. Pushing further (usually quoting the Standard) I have found is better to get an Engineering Tech response.

How do we get hold of one of those?

IsolaBella...while I have you here do you know which of the new seats have the highest marker for FF mode (before turning to booster)?? My DD1 has just reached it on her hipod senator and I want to get her something else. I am waiting on a special needs seat (long story but i have been waiting for 8 months and the OT is being dreadfully slow with the paper work). I just need something a few cms higher than the hipod that will last her a few more months (6 max) and then DD2 can use it. I have a Britax seat from USA but it has no head support and she needs this with her special needs (needs the AHR) unless actually car's seat can recline like my ex-dh's car. I did consider getting a Frontier but I doubt I would fit that in a commodore with 2 other seats.

[fillesetjumeaux]

Ah, that's where I got confused - it was 15 instead of 12 for r/f, not 25 instead of 22 for f/f!!!

[lsolaBella]

HS I have sent you a PM with the type of thing I would email to SnS (after getting a general "Customer Service" response to the question "If a child is over 22kgs but under the height markers can they still use the inbuilt 5pt harness".

ETA: I put a link to the Draft Standard (for the new review), but for Type B seats from memory the testing has not changed (See Table 5.1 in the Standard)

http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/forums/ind...owtopic=1003313

This post has been edited by lsolaBella: 22/08/2012, 01:55 PM