[Georgie Boy]

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Louise

[Luckyseven]

Well we have used the spray for 3 nights now and have only had one dry night which was the second night.

Does it take a little while to work???

[voldemort]

Hi luckyseven,
for us, the spray worked the second night we used it and kept working every night since then. Same for DS and for DD. I imagine it might vary between children a bit.
Perhaps its just a matter of ensuring it stays where it is needed, make sure she doesn't blow her nose immediately after it. To be honest we weren't that particular how it was used, just stuck it right up his nose and he breathed in (through his nose) as he puffed it. He was 10 when he started it so he was able to do it himself quite well.
He just got back from a 3 night camp and is still dry! So pleased...it's finally all over, he has been dry for weeks now. I was starting to think it would never end!

[Luckyseven]

Voldemort; Thanks for the info, so is your DS dry now without the spray??? I so long for that day!!!!

Do I just use it straight before bed?

When she has it, it always makes her sneeze so maybe its not working because of that??? She does about 4 sneezes all in a row after taking it every time.

She has used it 4 nights now and only has had one dry night.

Oh well I will keep plodding along, if she is still wet after a couple of weeks will check back with the doc I think.

Samy

[voldemort]

Yes DS is now totally dry, its fantastic, I never thought it would happen! Using the spray the last couple of years has taken it off our minds, but everytime he ran out or tried going without it, he would end up back where we started (he is was a *massive* wetter). Apparently the spray has no effect on making them stop earlier (unlike the bedwet alarm, but that never worked for us, we tried it at least 3 separate occasions), just masks it until they stop naturally.

But I do think that it might have helped a bit, using it for so long I feel his brain got so used to him being dry that it might have helped somewhat to trigger him into waking since the sensation of a full bladder was so completely new to him after all that time of no wee. But the studies done so far don't seem to back that up.

Yes he just used it when he did his teeth at night, just before bed. I would say definitely it is the sneezing that is stopping it going into her nasal membranes. Perhaps she could blow her nose first, then spray, without sticking it too far up her nose, that might make her sneeze. I'd experiment with how she sprays it up there, maybe she could hold her nose afterwards, or point it different directions up there?!

I am aware that the spray can have effects on some children so I would be very cautious about it; it affects the electrolyte balance so can lead to seizures. For that reason it was drilled into him never to use more than he was told, and not to drink lots afterwards. I was very relieved that we were able to halve his dose instantly (just one spray up his schnozz instead of 2 prescribed) and the effect was instant and 100%. Plus he had no side effects at all. It is important to ensure they don't drink large amounts whilst using it too (google for an explanation, I can't remember it eloquently!). Good luck, it was fabulous for us! We are so confident now, it seems like it was never a problem.

This post has been edited by voldemort: 24/06/2009, 10:06 AM

[mum2five]

Hi All,

I posted about two months ago about my 7yo...in three months he will be 8 and is still soaking a drynite. I went along to a linen party not that long ago and the host was selling a bed pad that sits on top of the sheets - it was ridiculous how pleased I was with my purchase. All I could think of was how much easier this will make the washing!

Just thought I would check in. I am thinking a GP appt in needed. He was really embarrassed at a camping holiday recently as a kid from another family saw his drynite. He was mortified she might say something at school...we are still waiting to see if there will be any fall-out on that one

Lia

[voldemort]

Those bed pads (the $35 ones that hold 2L, not the 'cheapies' ) are wonderful, wish I had bought them years ago! Your poor DS with his 'exposure'...I was always worried about this with DS/DD, so we did make sure we talked about keeping it private, how to take a bag to the loo or conceal it in your sleeping bag etc! Not easy.

[localyokel]

Someone was asking about alternative methods, we used homoeopathy. We use it for all health problems so it was not something new to us. I had two who never had a dry night in their lives and then another who was dry for a bit and then never again. Talk about bedding! We had more sheets, quilts pj's than a cupboard could hold. I used some pads called 'slumberdry's' They were good in that they soaked a lot up but you know boys will pee upwards doh! so the bottom sheet was often the only dry bit! Worked better for a girl. As long as they dont move around the bed too much, cos then they can miss it.
We tried lots of things homoeopathically and finally seemed to hit on the right thing. It was great - after never a dry night we had some, then a lot, some relapses and then it was never a wet bed and we sort of forgot about how it used to take over your life - sleepovers with older children was a nightmare.
I agree that some kids just wont stop without keeping on taking something until their body is ready - we had a few relapses until we hit their bodies age. But the thing was it made life easier for me, nicer for the kids, and going to the toilet before you go to bed, and again when you get up in the morning was a reasonable thing - if you are peeing all night why would you need to go?
As for the amount of urine - i dont have the research and would love it if anyone knows where i can find it - but there was a tv program on a while ago and it was discussing the endocrine basis for some bedwetters (the primary ones who are never dry to start with) and they dont produce a hormone that causes normal people to secrete less urine overnight when they sleep - so basically they have more volume to start with. It was tied to another hormone secreted from the same place - i think a growth hormone, so some children were in the average to les than average height category.
I noticed that my boys had no concept of becoming full. They were fine one minute and then full and HAD to go the next. It was as if the receptors in the bladder didnt know 'filling up' only full and empty. One of them wet himself in class in year 3 as the teacher told him he had to wait until recess to go to the toilet. Luckily he thought to take himself back to the infants building at recess and ask the teacher there for some undies and a spare pair of shorts!
As for homoeopaths - if you are interested have a look at the Australian Homoeopathic Association's site as they list homoeopaths and also some of them have listed their 'specialties' areas that they have a lot of interest in working with.
Ali

[Georgie Boy]

Just bumping up

Louise

[joykey]

Hm, I've been thinking about posting in here for a while, but am really, really scared of jinxing something...

It's been nearly a month since Joanna had a wet bed. She's never, ever gone that long, never more than a couple of weeks at a time when using the alarm, then she always got bored with the alarm and stopped using it and we'd be back to square one.

Anyway, a couple of appointments ago with her paed and counsellor, and I spoke to the counsellor privately and just poured out all my frustration about the fact that Joanna seemed to be unwilling to take responsibility for being cured and just CBF to do what she needed to do (use the alarm, take her medications, drink enough throughout the day etc). It was like she was waiting for someone to wave a magic wand and make it all better without her having to go to any effort.

Anyway, the counsellor sees her by herself now, then both of us together and then sometimes me alone. I don't know what he said to her that time (or maybe he waved a magic wand ) but she finally pulled her finger out, and since then we have been dry way more often than wet, and the dry periods are getting longer.

She'll be 14 in less than 2 weeks... that we can say by her 14th that she's permanently dry! And that I haven't jinxed anything by reporting back here!