[indigo~]

Liltuss, lovely news that all is going well with your pg. I hope you had a great time in the States.

AF arrived for me, yay, so will pick up my meds tomorrow and will start injecting Tuesday, which will be CD4.

[librablonde]

**PG and Loss mentioned**

Hi ladies,
it's been a bit quiet in here lately, I hope you're all well.

Liltuss- fingers crossed that everything continues so well for you. Lots of women get bleeding during pregnancy, I'm sure it will all be fine. Your NT scan is the same day that I meet back with my FS.

Indigo- good luck with your new stim cycle tomorrow. This year is The One, remember? It's going to happen for us!!!!

Mitchp- well done on getting onto Weight Watchers, I totally need to but have been eating my feelings instead *sigh*

Open- welcome

AFM- well, I had my OB appointment and he basically said he believes my miscarriage was caused by my fibroid, which for so long was considered to be no big deal at all, just a tiny fibroid and that it would have no impact on my fertility and pregnancy. He believes that as it started growing with the preg hormones, it distorted the shape of my uterus and the placenta started to come away from the uterus walls due to the fibroid being so close to it. He advised to not get pregnant again unless the fibroid can be removed. At this stage, I need to have a hysteroscopy to see if the fibroid can be removed. Unfortunately, I'm a public patient with no PHI, so the waiting list may be a while to have the hysteroscopy and then to have the fibroid removal. I cried my way through that session with the OB, he was lovely and very kind and gave me a referral to a specialist who can do those procedures. Has anyone here had a hysteroscopy or submucous fibroid removal? I will see my FS on 2nd Feb and find out if he can possibly do that procedure or somehow speed up the process due to my age (as the OB told me "you're not 19....."). And perhaps I can just pay for the operations outright to speed things up, I don't know, there's lots of investigating to be done. I finally got AF on Saturday, the first one since everything happened, and I just cried all Saturday night. Yep, I've been a ball of fun lately

Anyhoo, that's all from me. Have a great week ladies

[indigo~]

Libra, I just want to give you a big hug. I'm so sorry.

Yep, I've had 2 hysteroscopies, done at the same time as my laparoscopic clean ups of endometriosis. Compared to the laps, they seemed much easier to me as they're not so invasive (camera up via the cervix as opposed to cutting holes in belly for camera).

Did they give you a rough idea of how long you might need to wait in the public system? I think if I was in your position, I would be getting a quote to see if it's manageable paying yourself. Just so you have all the info. What's that old saying...in for a penny, in for a pound!

Mitch, well done on the WW. How's it going? I'm a life time member, and unfortunately am now back up to around the weight I was when I first joined. I've upped my exercise lately and cut out the rubbish food and haven't lost a darn thing, so I'm thinking it's time to start counting points again <groan>.

Picked up my meds today and apparently there's still a shortage of pregnyl, darn it. Luckily I have a stash of left over meds up the back of my fridge so I at least have enough to use as my trigger. Don't like that ovidrel, I have only used it the once to trigger and it was a disaster, so not keen to use it again.

[Spock]

hi ladies,

indigo, just wanted to wish you all the best for this cycle. It is a new year and new cycle, so lots of good possibilities. Good thing you have your own little pharmacy going. I agree about knowing the results of your m/c, it helps to know there was nothing you could have done to prevent it. I hope this knowledge helps you heal.

libra, sending you hugs. still such a difficult time for you, really unfair. now more delays too. I have had a lap, which like indigo said, is more invasive and takes longer to recover from so from that perspective, a hyst is better. I haven't had any fibroids removed but I know a few women who have and this seems to be a fairly routine type thing to have done. I hope you don't have to wait long. hopefully your fs can out in a good word for you and speed things up.

liltuss

mitchp, open, goodluck for 2012, the year of the dragon!!

***warning pregnancy and loss mentioned***
afm, some mixed news, we found out late last week that one of the twins didn't make it. I've been having lots of scans. yesterday's scan showed the remaining baby doing well, at 8.5 weeks. feeling sad for the one lost but also trying to stay positive for the one still going well. can't really grieve as such as the doctors keep telling me that isn't really good for the one living baby. we were getting very excited about twins. now a bit nervous, just want this trimester to be over so will feel more confident and safe.

[indigo~]

Spock, I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of one of the twins. This must be a very difficult time for you and your DP. Needing to grieve but still with hope for the remaining twin.

Thanks for the well wishes! I'm currently on 175u of Gonal f, saizen and 150u pregnyl. Won't add the orgalutran till later in the cycle. Yes, lucky I haven't thrown out any of the left over drugs or the needles and syringes as they neglected to give me any syringes for the saizen too. I have a huge bag full of paraphernalia, as well as a good stash of Crinone (5 and a half boxes!).

[BJBubbles]

Hi Ladies,

Wondering if I can join the group?? I've been lurking for a while and figured it was time I bit the bullet....

I'm 27, DH 33. We've been married since June 2009 and have been TTC since then too. After 4 unsuccessful rounds of Clomid in 2010 we started IVF last year...

I'm due to start my 3rd stim cycle tomorrow after 2 stims and 2 FET's last year.

**Pregnancy and loss mentioned***
OF my 4 transfers I got BFP's from both my Stims. The first ended in an early miscarriage, and the second sadly ended at 12w3d due to our baby having Anencephaly.

I'm doing the same protocol as last time - an antaganist cycle with Gonal F, Orgalutran and Ovidrel (trigger) with Crinone support.

I'm weirdly looking forward to it! I just can't wait to start and feel like we're doing something again instead of just sitting around and wasting time...

I hope 2012 is kind to everyone!
xoxo

[librablonde]

Hi ladies,

welcome BJBubbles It can be scary sometimes when looking at joining BG's, but everyone here is so lovely and supportive, and there's a wealth of IVF knowledge around you here. Good luck with your next stim.

Indigo- well, you're back in the thick of it again, when is your scheduled EPU? Exciting times, I can relate to BJ saying it's good to feel like you're doing something again when you start a new stim cycle. I hope you get lots of great, robust eggs from this haul. I think I read somewhere else that you're on DHEA? Is that right? How do you find it?

Liltuss and Spock- I hope you're both trundling along really well

Mitchp- hi hon

AFM- well, I spoke to my clinic and found my FS does do hysteroscopies and fibroid removals himself, and so he can do it for me (assuming there's no super-sneaky other issues that are found). If I pay outright (I have no PHI) it'll cost about $2000ish. So I'm more than happy to do that if the ball can get rolling again ASAP. So now I just have to wait to see him 2nd Feb to confirm if he thinks this is the correct approach. I just hope his waiting list isn't too long to have the hyst. I really need to pull my mental health together. I just finished watching Fried Green Tomatoes and bawled my eyes out for most of it My DP's mum has made me promise I'll go and get some counselling soon. Yep, gotta get on that. I don't have the time to sit around and grieve endlessly without moving forward. God, I hate being like this, I was always such a positive person before. I am happy about FS doing the hyst though, so that was my silver lining

This post has been edited by librablonde: 19/01/2012, 09:15 PM

[indigo~]

Welcome BjBubbles! Yes, this is a lovely supportive BG. And it's nice to be able to lean on ladies that know what you're going through because they've also had a tough time of things. While we might be a bit jaded and cynical, we still have hope. Gosh, you've been through so much already at only 27. It will be great to have a cycle buddy!

Libra, big hugs to you. There is no timetable for grief, I think we just have to work through things at our own pace. You've been through a very traumatic time, so don't push yourself. I think the counseling is a good idea.

Good to hear you have a plan for the hysteroscopy and your FS can do it for you. I can't imagine you'll need to wait for long. Once my FS decided she wanted to do the laps, she booked me in within a week or so both times. Yes, I also find IVF action really helps my state of mind.

Yep, I'm on DHEA. Have been since after my first cycle, with breaks only while pregnant, then starting up again after both m/c. Unfortunately it gives me horrible acne, all over my face, scalp, neck, chest, arms. It usually stays on the top half of my body but have had a few rogue zits lower down too. But, I am a firm believer that it helps my egg numbers. Not sure about quality, it's hard to tell. I think the saizen has alot to do with it also.

I'm on multi-vit, DHEA, extra folic acid, Berocca and prednisone in the AM, then fish oil, caltrate, zinc and coQ10 in the PM. What supplements are everyone else on?

EPU hasn't been scheduled yet, but I guess it will be around Monday 30th Jan as it usually takes me ages for the follicles get big enough. That would be around day 17 or so. My preference would be Friday 27th as that gives me the weekend to recover but they might not be ready by then.

[BJBubbles]

Thanks for the Welcome librablonde and indigo~!


*** pregnancy/loss mentioned***

librablonde - I've been reading your posts and my heart breaks for you. Definitely seek councelling - from personal experience, it really does help. I'm glad you have got some "answers" of sorts and are starting to form your next plan. Getting all the doctor appointments over with and moving onto the next thing was great for me. I hope you get your hyst soon and feel like you're on the upward climb again! It's hard and long, but I keep telling myself it WILL be worth it!

indigo~ I think I'm as jaded and cynical as the rest of you. Yep - we've endured a LOT, especially in the last 12 months - but gratefully my DH is an incredible support - we keep each other going on the days we question if we can!

It's great to have a cycle buddy! My first injection is due in 25 mins! It's been 10 months since my last stim, so I'm a little apprehensive about it - but I'll be fine! From my history I think I'm looking at my EPU on 1st Feb - but my scan next week will help give me a better indication.

Can I ask why you break up your medications to morning and night? Just so you don't take everything at once?

I'm currently (stim cycle asside) on 5mg folic aid each night and a berocca every morning. I'm about to add calcium to that too. I've asked my FS and nurses if I need/should be taking anything else and they said No. I would like to be taking at least iodine though... I'm seeing my GP next week so I might ask her what she thinks...?

I hope everyone has a lovely relaxing weekend!
xoxox
BJ

[minidiamond]

Libra, really glad the FS looks like he can do your procedures. Not cheap, but if you have the money it will be well worth making it happen asap. Don't forget you can claim OOP medical costs on tax. I hope his waiting list isn't too long, would he set aside clinical/operating days ? I'm not sure how it normally works but for my additional procedures like biopsy and D&CS, my FS scheduled in around his EPUs & transfers and I didn't have to wait long at all. Good luck for the 2nd, not too long now. Are you closer to seeing the counsellor ? You have to be ready, as difficult as it will be. Thinking of you sweetie ...

Welcome, BJbubbles ! Really sorry to hear about your losses, I hope this year brings you success and a pregnancy to term. How is your cycle going so far ?

Indigo, how are you tracking ? Had a scan/BTS yet ? In terms of supplements, prior to this BFP I was on pre-conception multi vits, CQ10, occasional royal jelly, Berocca, and prednisone for luteal phase support.

mitch, hopefully you're popping in now & then, hope you are doing okay.

Spocky, hope all is well, and you aren't feeling too bad, when is your next scan again ?? I hear you on the first trimester milestone !

Halby, are you around ? If so, hi hun, how are you doing ??

** preg mentioned**
AFM, I woke up feeling really negative this morning, not really sure why, so went to the GP and got a scan referral, they were able to squeeze me in straight away. Thankfully the bean is still on track, I am now 10 weeks, 5 days. Slowly, slowly creeping towards 12 weeks. Not much else to report, I have been getting quite a few headaches but I certainly cannot complain.

This post has been edited by Liltuss: 21/01/2012, 06:24 PM