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Ali

GOLD!!!!

Watching RPA - BBL for personals - I even took notes so I could catch up!!!

Silver

YAY!!!!

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Can't remember what I was going to say now cause I'm SO happy I got silver...how sad!

BRONZE!

Boobie for me!!

Just quickly:
Mel Mia was a shocker when she learned to crawl- made her way round the cot and figured that was much more fun than sleeping!! It seetled after a week or two so you might just have to wear it out And in regards to NT scan- for 1) I wanted to see bubby before 20 week scan and 2) being a baby nurse unfortunately I see the bad side of babies with disabilities so I am the sort of person who may do something with the results so thats why we got it done (sorry if that offended anyone or made you think less of me )

Anyway BBtrow- tired and off to bed
PS Tam loving the hair- will post an updated belly pic on weekend just to showcase the do!!

Hey ladies

Sorry havent been around, I have been reading but no replying, no time for personals tonight as I am absolutely buggered, have been all week when I get home, thank goodness haven't been cooking, my aunt is staying here with her son (i dont call her my aunt as she is only 3 yrs older than me, shes more like a sister to me) so she has been cooking, what a darl!

I have started a pregnancy diary. Will be nice to read through.

Booked my NT scan for 29 Feb, have a hospital book in appointment and doctors appointment same day and my car is going in for a service too, so organising for a day off work. My aunt will be running me around that day.

Mel, I want to be included in the pressie thing.

Any ladies testing soon??

Ems, glad to see you back here. You must be only 2 wks ahead of me.

Spent some of Isabella's birthday money today, bought her some sheets, a doona and a nice cushion for her room. So she has a doona for winter time now. Target have a sale on manchester.

I can't believe how hungry I get during the day its crazy.

Anyhow waiting for LOST to come on.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Hi Nichole best of luck with your NT scan. Good idea with the preg diary, be nice to read back on it. When Reanna turned 1 I went back through my posts to the DIN06 group when my labour started & for 3days (well 2 the 3rd i was in hospital) I was updating how it was going. It made me so teary how excited i was & so calm LOL so happy to return home each visit to hospital & kept soldiering on also all my posts (like my preg diary really) from 6months preg onwards it was so great.....so i suggest u also look back on these posts. U can also have your diary on here & keep it personal if u prefer it iykwim?

Jess LMAO, u feel u need to post a belly pic to beat my DD's do??? Yep i think it'll do it, i love updates on belly pics . My SIL was like that with her preg, if the scans came back bad (she is much older) they were going to terminate, gosh it takes a strong person to decide that but i did understand her reasons i am devastated when Reanna is overtired than a child in pain from disability...but then who am i to play god?? Its a hard one i usually steer real clear of the debate or whether to or not (continue with a preg) as i havent been through it so yeah i cant judge iykwim?? My bestfriend however was told her bub very prob had downes & doc said to terminate in his opionion....she bawled her eyes out & said she couldnt do it....the next test revealed the bub should be fine & sure enough he was born very healthy, what if she had listened to her doc?? It would have been too late for 'sorry i was wrong'.....its quite scary actually hey?? Im just praying i never have to make that sort of choice, maybe i am better of not knowing & just praying for a healthy bub (when its my turn of course, better not get too far ahead of myself ).


Us: WEnt to mums & took out KFC> U would think we brought her a gold nugget LOL she was so excited.

DH helped me remove a recliner from the house that needed removing then i swept & mopped her house so im buggered, & now i have my own to do tomorrow LOL, oh well thats life hehehe, id leave it till i get back from Bright on Sunday (im staying over at Bright with 2 EB members we have never met so yippee) but a family friend is babysitting Reanna on Sat as DH has his Harley Day at work so she is happy to come over before 8:30am so Reanna can have her sleep in (god love her) then she will dress, change, feed her then they will go shopping or whatever she chooses to do till DH finishes work, so saying that i have to make sure i do a little more than a spring clean tomorrow so my house is glowing CLEAN

Hope u all are having a nice night....

Shayne -
I was soooo p*ssed the other night when DH sent me an SMS saying the 3 things he managed to get from the supermarket, but not more. This was AFTER I gave him a list. So after trudging up the hill with 2 bags of heavy shopping (didn't take a daypack since he was doing the shopping ) Then when I get home he is so puzzled why there is so much and said 'well was that on the list??' so I say OF COUSE and then he admits he actually lost the list.... So I wish he would bloody ring!

Kelly - OMG, just saw from Rach that Milo as caffeine!! I was so sure it didn't! BUGGER. At least it is not much, I would only have max 2 tspns in one and don't drink it too often.

Rach - I am an absolute cheest FREAK so the thought of a cheese free lasagne is just too much for me to bear.... but in my meat sauce I put anything and everything, HEAPS of veges chopped up (broccoli, zuchini, m'srooms, red pepper! I also add chopped kalamata olives, chopped capers and then once I have put the meat layer on, I put freshly shredded basil over that. Oh and I also add grated carrot to the meat sauce (adds sweetness) and a bit of chilli). And my DH says i do make the best lasagne in the world (ok, he is biased ) but it is pretty good if I do say so myself! Mind you kelly's sounds very yummy! Think I will start adding a bit to mine! at Issac pointing out the doodle! I think my niece is on to it even though she has the 'unisex' dolls with just a smooth bump. I was asking her the names and with the pink one said her name and the blue dressed one his name and she said 'no, thats a girl!' So I said but he's in blue, I think he might be a boy' So she pulls down his pants and says NO, he doesn't have a penis!! This was at 3 yrs old

Jess - Glad to hear you had a rejuvinating day with the sleep in and hair! I am VERY impressed you have a DH who gets up hungover to Mia!!! Not sure if mine will do that....

Mel - Thanks for organising the buddy system!! Oh and I haven't had the NT scan, but I did have a normal US and saw bubs I probably would have said yes to the NT scan if offered it, but it was never offered and I am not in a high risk group so just figured not to ask.

Tam - Thanks for the tips on the bottles!!

Nicole - yay for booking your scan! Not so long now

I am sorry, I am sure I have missed someone, but all of a sudden I am absolutely knackered and cant write anymore.

xx shell

Morning ladies - another wet one here in Sydney, I personally would like the sun back now, I am officially waterlogged!!

Shell - at Dh losing the list and not fessing up! And thanks for the tip re: no EWCM, we did go for it - last night an the night before!! I would think its too early to O, but the signs are certainly there - each month I think my cycle gets stranger and stranger..
I was also happy to hear your boots were ok after all that slush!! Love the pram too, I think its cool!
Thanks for your kind words to Bec and I too..

Rach - Hope you ended up with some good ideas for Lasagne, I never make it with bechamel ( I mostly make it for work) -just wack a load a mozzarella in between layers, but when I make it for home I usually use a premade cheese sauce if I am in a rush, not bechamel..but I guess that has milk in it too..LOL
How did your OB visit go?

Jess - So sorry to hear you had a bad night, but it was of your Dh to get up to Mia hungover - I cant ever see mine doing that - hopefullt he will surprise me though! I am glad though that you had a good day to make up for it! Cant wait to see the hair! When do you head back to work??
OMG! The ring you want, for the other side of your engagement ring? EXACTLY the sme as mine!! I want one for the other side too, I have been banging on about it for years, calling it my 'maternity' ring instead of eternity - so hopefully I get it once bubs comes along . DH had gorgeous diamond earring made up by our jeweller to match my engagement and weding rings for my 30th..

Beccy - How are you - getting ready to catch the egg?? Any O signs yet?

Naomi - HI! I know it can be so hard to keep up, and I have loads of time on my hands most days!

Kel - OMG! That guy in 'dance' - the one who dissed his partner - what an ass!! DH said the partnet was on the radio yesterday with Hamish and Andy and she said he hasnt spoken to her since - what a dog! I will never vote for him if he makes top 20!!
I hope you have some more luck with lingerie shopping - I get that it would be better to try on, which makes buying from a website hard! You need a trip to Sydney!!!
We had crazy rain here too in Sydney - the weather is just wierd lately isnt it?

Mel - dont count yourself out yet - crossing fingers for you that AF stays away!
And re:NT scan - I think I will get one done when the time comes..

HI Nichole - sorry to hear you are so tired - hopefully that passes a little soon! Did you enjoy lost? I thought it was good - left me wondering a million things, as usual!!

Tam - oooh, going away huh? Sounds like fun!
So I am off to the naturopath thismorning, then to the day spa for a 'Hawaiian Summer Rejuvenation'..

Hi to Kari, Karina and Em

Tonight I have to work at the in-laws dance, ruins my day of relaxation..

Not much on for the weekend really, except another dinner for Chinese New Year - this time with friends!

Will pop back in later, Im sure I have forgotten things..

Oh, I had to laugh at my ticker - saying we will BD in however many days! Yeah in a perfect world maybe!!

I had the NT scan both times.
With Isaac I just thought it was a routine test, so got it done.
I tihnk the important thing is to know that if you do get a high risk result, further testing is NOT just for people who would terminate if there was a problem. It is also to be able to prepare yourself. We had high risk with this pregnancy and had an amnio. I would much rather know i advance if something were wrong - that way we could have prepared ourselves and done some research into early interventions or other things that may be necessary to care for a high needs child.

Just because you aren't in a high risk group, does not mean that there is still not a risk. Im only 26 and got a 1 in 36 chance of T13+18 and 1 in 143 chance of Down Syndrome.

I dont mean to come across as being harsh on this. but this is something that is close to my heart.

Shell at your niece! They're such funny little tihngs!

My doc appointment yesterday was actually with the midwife, which is good as I prefer her. Have to see the doc next time though (in only 2 weeks! ) as I have to have the GBS swab.
Everything is looking good. Squishy is head down but posterior so Im doing all i can to turn him round to make sure he isnt once i go into labour, altohugh he can change all the time anyway, so not sure if it'll do any good.
It was good as the midwife taught me how to feel the head so now i know it's definitely the bum at the top!

Not getting much sleep atm so not feeling all that with it.
Gonna go ahve a cup of tea.

NT Scan,

I had it with Kiara as I wanted to see bubs and also wanted to know if I was high risk even though I should be low risk. I was low risk so didn't have any further tests, if I was high risk I would have had the counselling and further tests and then if I had found out the child had a disability I would research into what that meant, get second opinions and then make my decision. Honestly if the child would be severly disabled I would have terminated as it is hard enough living in this World without a disability, my opinion, and I respect those that could cope with looking after a disabled child for the rest of their lives.

Ahhh Lost was on last night and it was great, can't wait til next week....although I wish it was on earlier because I couldn't sleep after watching it, too pumped up on theories of what was going on!

Nicole, yeah 2-3 weeks I'm due 24th August although if same happens with Kiara this one may be a September baby!

Morning Girls,

Rachel
Hun everything about your preg is a personal thing. I never realised you were high risk so sorry, but remeber it doesnt determine the outcome. Like i said my best friend was told by her OB just to terminate & if she had of her 3month old baby boy would not be here today & he is very healthy. Some ppl have different opinions on it, im very very neutral as like i said i have never had to choose so I can not judge someone for either choice, its truly a personal thing Im just so glad my DD was very healthy. & ohnestly i think its wonderful how you are approaching the high risk situation positively, well done!!

EMS Sorry not a lost fan, i never gave it a chance really so never watched it. I never used to but i now follow All Saints & Greys Anatomy. ALso i religiously watch cold case & crimial minds love them.

Shayne

Go on rub it in go on LOL , hope you have a fantastic relaxing day. Im looking forward to going it should be fun & great to get my mind off the 2ww.

Shell Help with bottles You are more than welcome, gosh u must have heaps going through your mind right now LOL. I'd start writing a list in a little book that u can keep with baby name options & stuff that way everything u think of is recorded??


Me: Well will be very busy soon, going to do EXTRA cleaning in each room YAY!!. I'll be glad when its done i must admit.

SOmething i need to fess up to that i forgot to tell you all.
Well remember i said i had KFC last night?? Well at my mums on my last piece of chicken i pulled off the yummy skin & it had a little bit of flabby skin behind it. Well suddenly i felt (if this ever happens i usally just pull it away then continue to eat). I rushed to the bin & spat out my food feeling but luckily i wasnt sick. MUm pretended not to notice LOL...& then i couldnt eat a thing & most of last night i felt ickky.

Then just before we got home we stopped into SIL's to pick up my lost bracelet. Reanna had a stinky nappy so i proceeded to change her as i do 100 times a day. I was feeling again & it took me a few moments of deep breathing to get myself together as if i got Dh to do it SIL would have been sus iykwim?

So later on tonight DH finally saids 'so what was the go with nearly spewing up your dinner?'. I shrugged & told him the chicken had a fatty skin part & it was gross ( i try not to get his hopes up). Then he said it 'u sure you aren't pregnant???'. I said maybe we have to wait & see but don't get excited. Then i told him about the nappy so now he is convinced that i am infact preggos but i told him im worried that its just me wishing i am so having symptoms or really aint well iykwim?? Yes im being cautious i know & yes now Im more convinced i could be preggos but im also so worried.

Mell have your cramps stopped?? I hope so. I never know when AF is coming i never get symptoms. Keep me updated wont you?

Well ill surf EB a bit more than off to clean YAY>

Hi girls,

NT scan. I definitely had one with both the kids, it wasn't really offered as optional but I'm sure I could've refused. Anyway I hadn't made up my mind what I would do but I definitely wanted to know in advance.

Just wanted to say I am tres jealous of you girls going away and spa-ing it today. Work is a bit crazy today

Also all this lasagne talk is making me want it! So when you make your meat sauce part lasagne experts how do you do that?

Shell that's so funny about your neice! Jada is so into the penis/vagina bit too. Grandad nearly had a heart attack when she said Corbin is a boy because he is a penis and testicles - all at the dinner table!

Sorry for the lack of personals, phone gone crazy!

NT Scan Yep, we always get it done.
I have a brother with severe disabilites, and while I myself would never terminate, I can see why people would, and believe it's a decision for the couple to make. We do it, just so we could prepare ourselves for worst case scenarios, etc....

My NT scan is booked for the 28th!! It will be my first scan this PG, so semi freaking out about! I've had no M/S, sore (.Y.)'s but otherwise nothing... so I just wish I hadn't declined a viability scan because the next few weeks are going to take forever... and I need some reassurance...

bb when the kids are having their arvo naps

YAY FRIDAY YAY FRIDAY!!!!

Im feeling heaps better today, a bit more energy, it must be because its Friday

Jazzmin, Yeah getting ready for O, I was a bit shocked this morning to find some fertile cm and Im only on CD 8 so that freaked me out a bit. I informed DH to be available to me tonight He is starting to get a bit anxious to about everything that now he has started coming up to me and asking if we have to "do it" tonight If its not an "important" day I just tell him to go rest tonight How are you going?

I checked out your Flicr Jazzmin and had a sneak peak at your wedding photos, they are soooooooo beautiful! Were some of your bridesmaids your sisters? I thought a couple of the girls looked like you I want to check out your travelling photos soon when I have more time

Jess, that ring is gorgeous! I hope you get it! I bet you are feeling nice with your colour done and just in time to start back at work too. Do you start back on Monday?

Tam, ooooh sounding verrry promising! I will fess up now and say that I have McDonalds for dinner last night, and it was sooooooo yum!

Nichole, so good to see you popping in A pregnancy diary sounds like a great idea. I will be great to look back on that too.

Well as I said before Im so glad its Friday today! Tomorrow DH and I are going to Brissy to the motor show YAY - not. haha, actually in a weird way Im looking forward to it cos I get to spend some quality time with DH awwww

Have a great day everyone! - if Im not back in later.

Hi girls,

Just a short one from me today.

Very somber here at school today. One of the year 11 students was killed yesterday when a woman mounted teh curb and ran into him and his friend when they were on thier way home from school. His friend is in critical. I should be having my year 11 class now, but they are all consoling each other and thier are councilers available.

What was worst was, when they showed the driver on the news, she smiled and waved to the camera She must of been high or something.

Sorry for the post. Its just such an upside down day today. I did't teach either of them, but I knew one and the other was well known for his involvement in music and his band.

Will try to post back latter with something a bit more happy.

Enigma That is so incrediby sad!
We lost a friend (MVA) during our yr12 HSC trials, it absolutely devastated our grade/school. Hope all the kids are okay, and their friend pulls through!

Enigma that is horrible, hope everyone is okay.

Enigma, that is such terrible news! I actually heard about it on my way home yesterday. It makes you not feel safe even walking on the footpath doesnt it? I bet the driver was drunk or high

Oh Enigma I'm so sorry to hear that and I hope you and your stdents are doing ok.

Ta Jess

Tam, it just really annoys me when people say they wont have a test like the NT scan because if anything was wrong they wouldnt terminate anyway. The scan is non-invasive, no risk at all. It sh*ts me to tears that people think testing is so you can terminate.
I dont understand why someone would terminate just on a doctors recommendation. Im sorry your freidn had a high risk but if thats just from the scan then it's in no way conclusive at all. She would have had to have further testing. If the doc didnt explain that, then he's a d*ck.
We had an amnio in the end, altohugh the specialist (we had a second scan with a specialist that came back low risk, long story), anyway he recommeded no further testing. We decided on the amnio for peace of mind.

The NT scan uses blood tests as well. These blood tests can be indicators for other things.
For instance one thing they test is the level of PAPP-A, w pregnancy protein in the mother's blood. My level is low which can be one thing that leads to premature birth and other problems. Had I not had that test, I would not have known. That has nothing to do with chromosomal abnormalities or anything wrong with the baby, nothing to do with terminations.

I see so many people on EB posting about how they wont bother with the NT scan as they wont terminate no matter what. I wish people would educate themselves on things like this. It's not as simple as that.

Enigma - how awful Hope you're ok

Afternoon all!

Man I've missed a lot!! We're definitely getting chattier!!

Engima - that's horrible! I hope the school can recover from such an unnecessary tradegy.

Jess & Shayne - My eternity-to-be ring looks exactly the same too! DH had always said I'd receive it for the first anniversary, which has come and gone, so we'll see if I get it for the first bub!!

Mel - yep, asking about the milo was because at work we have a coffee meeting first thing in the morning, and lately tea - which has become my subtitute - has started tasting metallicky, so I was thinking of switching to milo.
Don't give up yet! Still one week to go til testing - and crampy doesn't mean af!!!
And yep, I'll be getting the NT scan - although the biggest reason is just I want to meet bub!

Tam - I love your sig - is it new? I probably just haven't noticed Thanks for your experience with God Parents. The concept have never crossed my mind before, and now suddenly DH is talking about it and how do I feel about such and such or would I prefer ~~~ etc. So I just wanted a better idea of the whole thing really - I was so clueless. And of the people DH has mentioned, my sister hasn't been one of them, so I was juts wondering how your sis felt. I'm sure my sis isn't normal either!!!
Oh, and oooo about a bit of !!! (You know ttcing is just weird when other people are getting excited about you feeling sick!!!)

Nichole - Sorry to hear you're so tired! Thank goodness for you aunt! I started a pregnancy diary. But I've since lost a bit of enthusiasm But having said that, my entries at the moment would be "tired today" "tired today" etc etc etc

Shayne - The other reason I really couldn't stand that guy in SYTYCD was that the previous night there was another couple, and the judge asked the pair "who would you say should go through if there's only one ticket" and the guy said the girl, which was so nice and sweet (they both went through in the end). That's a gentleman. Happy Spa Day!!

Bec - at you getting excited about going to a motor show!!! DH time is DH time no matter where it is I suppose!!!

Kari - Hope your day gets better. I was just thinking to myself that it's a pretty slow day here and I might head home, watch the cricket and make lasagne! Not quite a spa day, but everything's better than work!

Shell GRRR to your DH losing the shopping list!! And don't worry, it's a very small amount of caffeine compared to coffee or something like that. Plus it's milo with all those good vitamins and stuff that the skipping rope ad goes on about. (Right - just remembered you probably haven't seen the ad!)
I am also a cheese freak. DH is trying to make me give it up. He's never going to win that battle, but he keeps trying. DH doesn't understand why I prefer pasta over noodles - because pasta comes with cheese!!!

sorry, that's all the personals this brain can handle...

I had the most pg brain experience yesterday: I left my keys at work. Got off the train, went to my car, tipped absolutely everything out of my handbag, no keys. So I walked 45 mins to the shopping centre. I got over taken by a granny on the way. I tried to keep up with her, but I had heavy bags and it was SO HOT so I let my dignity go. DH made it to the shopping centre just as I arrived. He gave me a big and said "Yay! Now we can go have coffee together" and I just wanted to . But he was right, we had a wander through the shops, headed to Gloria Jean's and enjoyed the lovely lovely air conditioning! And then this morning before work he took me out to brekkie! Lovely! So while I hope I never leave my keys here again, it turned into a great experience! Well, except that the same granny over took me in the shopping centre as well. She'd definitely had her weet bix.

well it's 2pm and I'm thinking it's home time for me... I have my heart set on making lasagne and watching the cricket in our newly air conditioned house. We have not a lot planned for this weekend - although my mum and sis and coming home tomorrow from OS so we'll be sharing our news which should be very excited. I know my sis will be overjoyed at becoming an aunt. I can't believe I'm only 7w though. It feels like so much longer already!!!

Happy Weekend Everyone!!!

to everyone I missed

One word: AF
I'm OK actually. I didn't really expect to fall pg the first month, although we did fall pg straightaway the first time. Anyway, AF arrived only a few hours after my post yesterday - guess I was right about AF coming at least!
This is probably going to make me sound like a lunatic, but I still feel quite certain that we conceived on that first night. I just 'felt' it was happening....Sound I know! But, I felt just like I did the night we conceived Rhiannon. And, AF arrived on 9dpo again, which means it wasn't a fertile cycle . This is how one of my natural fertility books explains it:
Also, the fact that I don't O until CD17 isn't good either:
So, basically, with my cycle as it is, I have very little chance of getting a fertilized egg to stick. I spoke to my naturopath and she's going to give me some different herbs to try and get my cycle to sort itself out. A couple of my books also mention the fact that bfing can cause these probs with the cycle, and my naturopath agreed. So, I have decided to wean Rhiannon. I don't feel too badly actually, considering she is down to only 1 feed a day, and most mornings she just mucks around with it anyway. So, this morning was her last bf. It does make me sad to say that, but I guess I would have been sad regardless of when I weaned her.
Anyway, I am hoping that my cycle will sort itself out this month and I can get a BFP in a few weeks!

But, enough about me - I can see you've all had another busy day!

Lists as they stand:
1. Rachel (EDD 18/3/08) + Kelly (EDD 27/9/08)
2. Bec (EDD TBA!) msgs Shell (EDD 1/8/08) + Shell msgs EmS (EDD end/8/08) + EmS msgs Bec.
3. Jess (EDD 3/8/08) + Mel (EDD TBA!)
4. Naomi (EDD 14/8/08) + Tam (EDD TBA!)
5. Nichole (EDD 11/9/08) + Shayne (EDD TBA!)
6. Kari (EDD 3/10/08) + Karina (EDD 9/9/08)

Pressie participants so far:
- jess
- kelly
- EmS
- Mel
- Bec
- jazzmin
- Kari
- Tam
- Nichole
- Karina?
Nays:
- Shell
- Enigma
Undecided:
- Tommee
- Naomi? (sorry, can't remember if you've said yay/nay!)
- Rachel? (ditto!)
I think that's everyone! My apologies if I've forgotten someone.

Tam Sorry to have left you off the list!
Sorry you've lost your testing buddy this month. I was looking forward to us getting BFPs a couple of days apart! And, I hope I don't have you as my testing buddy next month (because I want you to get a BFP this month, not because I don't want to be your buddy!) It sounds like I may very well be on my own next month! One of the ways I first realised I could very well have been pg, when I was pg with Rhiannon, was that I started to gag on things that had never made me squeamish at all: wiping snot off the kids' noses, floating poo (the kids') in the loo (sorry if TMI!), swallowing garlic/horseradish tablets. Anyway, seems positive that the chicken skin-thing made you squeamish!

jazzmin If you press Ctrl and N at the same time, you can bring the current screen up again. I do this so I can scroll through the thread in one window and write my reply in the other window at the same time! It saves flicking back and forth, or having to take notes!

EmS Can't believe you've been back in here for a couple of days and you take out silver!
Thanks for your thoughts on NT scan.
Have to say I can't stand Lost! DH is mad keen on it, but it just bugs me how they always make out that you're going to find out some big secret and you just end up with more questions!

jess I can definitely understand how you would consider doing something with negative results. I certainly don't think any less of you! I always thought I would be the same until I got pg, and like I said in my last post, at the time, I just couldn't even consider going through 12 weeks of hell and then not end up with a baby in the end! I think because we got so lucky with Rhiannon being such a happy, healthy baby, we feel like we might not be so lucky next time - doesn't make sense, I know! So, I may consider wanting to know next time. Plus, like you said, it would be great to see the bub at 12 weeks! You still have a 20 week scan as per usual, don't you?

Nichole Yay for being cooked for!
I did a pg diary with Rhiannon and I'm so glad I did. I read through it quite a bit and it's so nice to remember how I was feeling about everything (not the HG though!)
Tam is testing on Valentine's Day.

Rachel Thanks so much for your thoughts on NT scan - didn't come across as harsh at all. Although your second post - to Tam - did a little. For us, we decided we didn't want to get the tests done because we didn't think we would terminate anyway, and because I just couldn't stand the thought of spending the last 28 weeks of the pg stressing about yet another thing. With the HG as bad as it was, we were struggling to resist ending the pg as it was, as I was already depressed and DH was so over-stressed. We didn't need anything else hanging over our heads. It is a personal decision for each couple to make, and until you are living in another couple's shoes, you just can't fully understand their reasons for having/not having the tests done.
Anyway, it was good to hear from someone my age who gotten a reasonably high risk of some disorders, and scarey! Has definitely made me think that we need to think more seriously about having it done next time. Although, we just won't know, until we are in that moment, what we would actually decide.

Karina Yay for having a scan booked! Is it too late to get a viability scan? Hope the time doesn't pass too slowly for you.

Enigma OMG! Those poor boys and their parents. That is just so awful. Did they drug/drink test the driver? She sounds like a callous b*tch. Hope your students and yourself are coping OK.

HAPPY FRIDAY!!! This Monday coming will be my first without the twins, so I am looking forward to my first nice long weekend!

Mel, thank you
Tam - i hope you don't think Im attaching you coz honestly, Im not. I just want people to realise it's not all about terminating.

I can totally understand why people wouldnt want to have the tests. The stress from having high risk results is awful and I wouldnt wish it on anyone

I agree it is a personal decision, but that decision should be made with more information given, whihc i honestly dont tihnk it is. With Isaac I had no idea what the test was for at all, until i did some reserach.

Sorry, Im in a crap mood today. No sleep and painful BH and stupid noisy neighbours!!!

I wont mention anymore about it.

Rach we all have bad days and I am sure you didn't mean any harm- as you said we all have different ideas and reasons for doing stuff and I thank you for opening my eyes up a little more about the results and what they mean (more than just a downs test as you say ).
Hope your day gets better sweety!

Anyhoo BBL- babysitting my 2 nephews (2 and 4) and after blowing up an entire kiddie pool (NOT a good idea when pregnant ) and then carrying 4 massive tubs of water down the yard to fill the pool (ALSO not a good idea pregnant ) I am too buggered to reply properly so will do after dinner maybe!

Hi to all
Ta jess

HI all - had a lovely time at my Hawaiian Rejuvenation!! I am So tired now though ( super-relaxed I guess..). Also saw the naturopath again and she did me a herbal concotion (tastes like poison.. ) to help regulate my cycle, help my insomnia and hopefully get rid of the headaches I have been getting..

Mel - Sorry to hear AF turned up - hopefully those herbs can regulate your cycle too! Thanks for the control N trick - i tried it once and it didnt work, but I just did then and sucess!

Kelly - LOL at the granny overtaking you!! Poor thing - I bet it wasnt funny for you though!
Yeah, I agree, seeing that nice guy volunteer his partner to get the ticket the day before made that selfish one look even worse!!
Fingers crossed the cricket doesnt get rained out again tonight!!

Bec - hah, our cycles sound in sync again - wierd!! Glad you liked my photos, obviously there are loads more, but I havent had time to upload them all.. Only one is my sister - the blondest one of them, with the short hair ( her's is done dofferently to the other girls) - but the girl with the dark hair and I get mistaken for sisters every time we step outside our houses together!!
I actually still have travel pics to upload too - of Chicago and San Francisco, and more from LA too, I think..
Good luck catching that egg!! Hope DH doesnt get too worn out!!

Enigma - thats so awful

Going back to the couch to relax before heading to work tonight..

ETA: Rachel - sorry you are feeling crappy - hope you get some sleep and those BH give you a rest soon!

Jess - LOL - take it easy will you!!

Oh, I also forgot to mention I just watched the last ever episode of Gilmore Girls and I bawled like a big baby through most of it - I feel even more lost than when Buffy ended..OMG - I AM SO SAD!! Imagine how damn emotional I will be when I am pregnant!

Mel so sorry to hear about AF

Kelly at the Granny!

Jess take it easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shayne I am not into Gilmore Girls but how did they end the series?

Rachel I hope your day gets better!

29 mins until home time Off to The Circus on Sunday so looking forward to that!

Have a good weekend everyone!

Hi Girls,

OMG so much for a home cleaning day. Thankgoodness i did get alot of cleaning done but at 11am my mum rings, she is coming over & bringing lunch (Yummo) & has a pumpkin to give me. No worries so i scurry around getting cleaning done (which i did so fast may i add). Then Dh comes home for lunch at 12pm, parents arrive 12:30pm. Then the lady who is babysitting Reanna tomorrow whilst i go away to Bright & DH has his harley day wants to come over so i can explain everything...routines, where to find things ect...sounds like a plan. Well at 4pm finally she & my parents leave so hence not getting much done & just as they do Reanna wakes up oh well lol.


Rachel Hmmm not sure if i have offended you as i certainly did not mean to?? WIth DD i was never offered the NT scan (which can u plz tell me what it stands for??). So im quite annoyed about it never being offered actually because yes i agree its a great option to have it done & i agree it shouldnt have to lead to termination......if the results aren't good & further tests show high risk for something i feel its the parents choice what to do also....prepare themselves for what to expect...or the other...thats what i mean about how i dont judge iykwim?? IM very neutral about it as its a personal thing, & to be honest i dont know enough about it all to put in my opinions on it at all (sorry if u felt that i was trying to make out the NT isnt necessary as I would never suggest that ). As for my friend, she won't ever go back to him. He outrightly told her to terminate......she burst into tears, went home to talk to her partner & she demanded further testing & said straight that no matter what they were prepared to learn about it & give their son the best in life that they can.....then the tests proved less likely downes then he was born completely healthy.....the doc was an old fashioned OLD FART & Im so glad she got a 2nd opinion as he was clearly out of line. I didnt know about the other issues you can find out, its great info for me to learn as now I'm going to demand a NT scan. DO u know of a link at all with more info?? I'm very interested. So Rach im sorry from the bottom of my heart if i ever offended you, never my intentions, you are alot more informed than me on the issue (i was never ever even offered it i assumed it was for older ppl in preg as thats what i was told by friends) & i never said that i wouldnt have an NT scan as i would never terminate not sure if you thought i had?? Because to be ohnest I dont know what i would do, plz god i never would have the option anyhows. Glad your doc said not to worry about more tests, sounds like everything should be fine for you?? I really hope your day improves, if i have really upset you & u dont want to post to me anymore i understand, u take care hun.



Enigma: How awful, i hope you are ok & your students too, big huggs.

mellOMG testing buddy I'm so dissapointed for you. Was it the 12th u were expecting AF? Its early hey?? I got a pain in my left side, i got it last month but worse & so im hoping AF aint coming. LOL i hope we aren't testing buddies too I really hope your day improves, if i have really upset you & u dont want to post to me anymore i understand, u take care hun.

Kelly: thanks hunny, glad u like my sig, yeah its new i think like a day or two old. U are welcome re: info on god parents. Just a tip, wait till its time to ask as if u ask now all excited things could change (your mind i mean) then u are stuck with an already promise . LOL about forgetting your keys, & PMSL about the little old lady passing u TWICE too funny i can just imagine it too, glad u ended up having a great arvo.

Shayne: So what is this stuff for Isomania?? I might need some LOL but i am sleeping a little better i must admit. Gosh that spa sounds so wonderful glad u enjoyed yourself.

Kari: Circus sounds fun YAY


Well will be packing my bags later for my overnight trip. Gosh im gonna miss Reanna. At least it'll help me cope with not testing over the w'end.

Have a lovely w'end girls, not sure if ill get back on if not catch up either Sunday or MOnday ciao!!

Tam, no you didnt offend me at all. I didint mean you yourself, just people in general. Ive seen so many posts on EB saying it's a test for older people, only test if you are going to terminate etc and I just wish people were more informed.
Sorry I got on my high horse about it.


Absolutely.
The thing is though, that people seem to think the NT scan is an absolute test, but it is only a screening test. It basically weeds out the people who should be looked at closer.
My results showed a high NT measurement and a low amount of a pregnancy protein. Together that made me high risk. Further testing (amnio) showed that everything was normal. However the low protein oculd lead to other things.

The doctor your friend had was completely negligent IMO. She should have at least been offered counselling, as we were, with someone who deals with that stuff. We spoke to the top doctor in Brisbane as well as genetic counsellors. We made our decision based on this, our feelings and my own research (I research everything!)
It is not a decision to be taken lightly and I can't believe doctors like that are practising

The NT stands for Nuchal Translucency. There is a line of fluid at the back of the baby's neck, that is what they measure. There is a correlation between the size and chromosomal abnormalties, not just Downs Syndrome, but other much more serious ones like Trisomy 13 and 18 (cant think of the proper names atm). These 2 are the ones i was high risk for (as well as Downs). Bascially it's a death sentence, theyre gross abnormalities and most dont survive past their first birthday.
I do have a great link that explains things really well - and it's easy to understand too! I'll just see if i can find it....
http://www.babycenter.com.au/pregnancy/ant...ans/nuchalscan/
Hope it helps you - I found it really good.

The scan is supposed to be becoming more routine - i tihnk it depends on the dr though. With Isaac she was a b**ch but knew what she was doing. This time she had no clue what to do but was really nice!

Tam, Im so sorry I was so harsh about this. Really, i can't apologise enough. I really didnt mean to offend you or attach you. It so wasnt personal at all. Go into the pregnancy threads and youll see this come up time and time again, yet no one seems to really listen and inform themselves. It bugs me.
Hopefully out of my ranting, you girls will be more informed at least! If I havent frightened everyone off!

Off to make dinner and then lie down. I picked Isaac up to put him in his high chair and now my whole belly is sore
Thank god it's the weekend!

Hello to everyone. I'll be back to my usual happy normal self tomorrow - promise! No more ranting from the desk of the most hormonal of us all!!

LOL Rach - you made me giggle - I am sure ALL of us will have hormonal rantings at one time or another on here (thats on top of what our DH's have to put up with!!)
Nothing wrong with being passionate - we all have our things that we get passionate about

I am procrastinating - dont want to go to work with all the old farts at the dance - my eyes are so tired they are burning

Better go get dressed..

No problems Rach just making sure I didn't start a big EB riot . I rarely look into the preg threads i might have to i can imagine was rediculous advice would be thrown around . Thanks so much for that link i so dont have time to read it atm so i put it into favourites so ill look at it closely when i can, im not even preg yet (well at least i dont know at this stage) so i have time to read. Thanks again. Are we close to 5wks to go yet?? So exciting. BTW u didnt actually offend me or anything i just wasnt sure if something i posted was misunderstood iykwim?? But i understand i really do what you were saying & I agree.


Well im nearly all packed apart from needing to arrange some CDs to put into my car & put in my suitcase to save me carrying it at 5am in the morning....seems early but i used to get up at that time for work to start at 5:45am...this was ever second week, the week in between i wouldnt start till 9:45am...i know the shifts got very tiring.

Bye all see u all Sunday or Monday....hopefully no news of AF arriving [b]. Bye.

Hey girls

So sorry this will be a "me" post (promise I will be back trow for personals- too tired tonight-and thanks all for caring and telling me to look after myself ) but i just want to ask a quick q of the mums who breastfed:

I weaned Mia for good last night ( ) and now I have pretty decent lumps in my (.)(.)'s and they are sore+++. Does anyone have any good tips to settle it down (I don't really want to express either as I don't want to "encourage" the production) or do I just have to wear it out?? TIA

Ta jess

PS Thought I might try and change the "subject matter" for you Rach - just kidding- as I said earlier I am thankful you have opened my eyes and knowledge re testing

Have a great time Tam!

Night all, so tired!
And I think I had my first craving, I made DH go and get some rice pudding from the take away that sells Greek desserts by our house. It was so good, I ate the lot! I didn't really have cravings before so probably just a coincidence but I'm calling it a craving!

P.S sorry Jess, I am no help, just sending you hugs and I hope it settles soon. (((hugs)))

Tam - I can always dig it out again for you, no worries
See you Sunday/Monday

Jess - you may want to use warm compresses or a heat pack to settle them and give some relief. Massage is good - you dont want the lumps turning into mastitis. Give them a gentle massage in the shower, that should help.
Hop you get some relief. If it is really bad, I would express just until you feel comfortable.

Kari - have a good sleep!

Jess Cabbage leaves
I felt like a salad, but they really did work when I had to wean Leo fast! You put a cold one in, and when it gets warm & starts to wilt, you just put another.
Also wear a really supportive bra.
I'd also express, just until you have a bit of relief. Weaning fast is really painful, so I ended up expressing for a week, and my supply slowed gradually, which wasn't as bad. I feel for you though!!!!

Kari Oh good! I thought it was ridiculous that I had cravings already, but if you do too, I feel a bit more validated! Mine is totally for green grapes & pineapple!

TamHave a great weekend! Oh, and I've got my fingers crossed that AF stays away!

Shayne I think I need a rejuvenation! *sighs* & I think I missed something... old people's dance????

My two are sick again!! Just runny noses, which of course makes them super grumpy. I can't work out why the weather change affects them so much, it's driving me mental!!! L is being clingy, A doesn't want him to be clingy, esp to me! So two agitated little people... drives me nuts!
I fell asleep on the lounge at 6pm, and just woke up... house clean, both kids in bed, and DH is still pottering, I would feel guilty, but I think I'm too tired too!

Hey all

Well considering I have actually beaten my daughter out of bed (can't believe she is STILL asleep- must have been a huge day for her yesterday) I have time to at least START some personals!

Firstly thanks Kari, Karina and Rach for thinking of me and Karina and Rach I am definately off to buy some cabbage leaves and I must be on the right track as last night I had a hot shower, massaged them and let a little out! Thank you again girls for caring

Secondly:
Karina to reverse the tables from last week- I know how YOU feel- Mia did that clingy thing last week when she was sick so I feel for you Hopoe the get better soon! And at your DH doing all that for you- soubds like he is a bit like mine at times! How's he going anyway after THAT text last week?

Kari at least yours and Karinas craving are a little healthier than my sausage roll craving Although now it has turned into fruit- loving pineapple too and rockmelon. Glad you enjoyed your pudding

Tam 'm jealous too- hope you have a fun time away- at least now I have weaned Mia I might be able to go away for a night just me and Paul yeah!!!!

Shayne hope you had a "ball" last night I must be like Kel "I make myself laugh" (amazing what a good sleep can do for you hehehe)

Rach hope your belly feels better- I feel that now with Mia and I have a LONG way to go to get to you- can't imagine how bad it will be then! Hope you got a good sleep too and are feeling less "hormonal" to face the world today! Just glad we can be here to support you

Ok Mia up BBsoon for the rest!!

Ta jess
PS down there Shell

Hi there ladies,

Man this is just moving faster and faster!! I decided I had better start replying while reading otherwise I would just forget everything I wanted to say...

Tam - Wow that is sounding promising! (not that KFC has big fatty gross bits, that you felt sick ) Have a great weekend (or had by the time you read this!)

Kari - The meat sauce I make like a normal bolognese (well my normal), onions, garlic, mushrooms, olives, capers, chilli, basil, lots of veges and if you want it really yummy and fattening, bacon!

did he really say IS a penis, or HAS?? Both are still very funny!!

Karina - I had to wait til 13.5 weeks for the reassurance of a scan! I was the same, didn't feel that preggers so was so worried something was wrong! Of course all is looking good

Beccy - Have fun at that motor show!!

Enigma - I am so sorry to hear about that student, that is a really horrible thing to happen.

Kelly - Sounds like we are 2 cheese in a pod Yep, I hear you, I DEFINITELY choose something that involves cheese in any way possible over something that doesn't! Oh and my new excuse is I am preggers so I need the calcium! Tell that to your DH! I have to confess, on the odd occasion, I eat peanut butter with cheese Tonight I made tuna mornay, HEAPS of cheese mmmmmmm
Sorry to hear about your keys. I was so vague thismorning I went to the kitchen after breakfast to make my lunch and completely forgot what I was meant to be doing, so left for work, then got there 15 mins early with no lunch!!

Mel - Sorry to hear AF arrived, and that your cycle was out of whack, I hope weaning does the trick and you get your BFP soon. Oh and I had to at you just making sure we realised the floating poo was the kids, not the adults!

Oh and instead of pressing CTRL N, there is also a thing at the bottom of the thread when you have the reply screen open that opens the whole post in a different window.

Nicole - I love the idea of the diary! I think mine would be a bit boring too though! A bit the same as kelly's, tired today, bit more tired, bit less tired and thats about it! I am sure it will get more interesting once I start feeling bubs etc.

Rach - Hope you have a better day tomorrow/today. Hope your belly feels better too!

Jess - You need to get at the very least a hand pump!! Blowing up a whole pool, I hate doing just one balloon!

Shayne - I so want a hawaiian rejuvenation, whatever it is!! Sounds oh so warm...... oohh, where can you see your pics? Is that on FB?


Oh and Jess what on earth are you doing up?? Or is it late in the morning already maybe there?

Well, I am about to have my first 3 day weekend (other than hols) since, well, forEVER!! So looking forward to getting stuff done (or not )

Nighty night! xx shell

Ok Mia happily playing with my Preg Vitamin container so to finish off:

Shell I thought you were talking about the (.)(.)'y issue I am having till I realised you were talking about the pool hehehe!! And I always do things the hard way- when I told Paul I'd carried round buckets 4 or 5 times he just said "why didn't you use a hose?" And it was 6:15 when I was posting- thats a bit of a sleep in for me and I actually woke expecting to hear Mia but she was still asleep so I thought I'd take to opp. to catch up on posting!! Have a fun long weekend!!

Shayne at the moment I am crying everytime I watch Oprah, Extreme Makeover Home Edition, even Biggest Loser so don't be embarrassed about "Gilmor Girls"- as someone said- how DID they end it?? (not that I watch it enough to know anything... ) And also SOOO jealous of your spa day!! I have yet to book in massage Paul "owes" me- think I might make it for Friday when SIL has Mia for a few hours!!

Mel at AF!!! It's funny even that first cycle you still get disapointed Crossing fingers for next month for you. And yeah definately having 20 week scan asweel- HAVE to find out sex (speaking of anyone else finding out??)- as if I could wait the whole 9 months to find out what I'm having Will let you all know in 4 weeks and 1 day!! Hope you have a great long weekend- anything planned??

to seeing your mum and sis and being able to share your news Kel!!! And how was your cricket lasagne afternoon- us sad cases ended up having Red Rooster - think I might canneloni tonight- after all this "pasta" talk and then when I dropped the boys off yesterday my SIL was cooking canneloni and it smelt FANTASTIC!! And at your sad afternoon- 45 min walk that must have been miles (although what does it normally take you ) and at granny overtaking- don't worry sweety I know how you feel!! At least you got some DH time- sounds like thats pretty hard to get in this group! Paul and I are going to try and make it out to Redcliffe THIS weekend with Mia for a fish and chip lunch and walk besie the beach

Oh and Tam the nausea sounds like a good sign.... looking forward to you testing next week!!

Bec hope you and DH have a "lovely" day at the motor show!! As I said to Kel sounds like we all have trouble having DH time! Hope you have fun with hi. And back next Wed to work for 1 day a week (every wed or the occational saturday) for 2 months then 3 days a fortnight for about 2 and 1/2 mths then off again Bit scared I won't remember what to do but looking forward to going back in general!

Nichole yeah to scan in 20 days!! And good idea re diary- I never remember to write in one enough to make it worthwhile I have been thinking of some nice linen to get Mia now she'll be in a big bed soon- glad you got some good bargains at Target (bought some boxes, shelve unit for Mia and some really cheap photo frames there myself yesterday!)

Shayne and Kel I too thought I would get my "maternity" ring when I had Mia but Paul made me chose the $1500 pram or the ring and I figured I could always get the ring later and needed the pram for Mia Maybe this baby!! Have fun at chinese new year Shayne!!

Em how come you think you will go late- did you go heaps late with Kiara?? I think I will try and stretch it out a littl more this time but really don't want to go longer than a week (and I don't think my OB lets me anyway??)

Kari have fun at circus!

Well off to get ready for fitball pregnancy class and quick shop before at Target (forgot a few things yesterday ) while I have Paul to look after mia!

Talk later
Ta jess

I can't believe I wrote Corbin is a penis I meant HAS!

I have been cracking up at my desk and everyone keeps looking at me


Better get to work.......

Rachel I don't want to bring up the NT scan discussion again, but I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your experiences. Like I said before, you have made me think that DH and I may need to think more seriously about it next time.
Sorry to hear you're not getting much sleep. I bet you're getting quite uncomfy now.
I can't remember if you've said yay/nay to the pressie-buying!

Shayne Hope the naturopath can help out, and you can get some sleep. My naturopath just gave me a shockingly disgusting chinese herbal concoction for my cycle, too - Don Quai. It had better help!

Tam I bet you're not really disappointed about missing out a big cleaning day!
AF arrived on the same CD it has for the last few cycles. But the last few cycles, like this one, haven't been fertile, as the post-ovulatory phase has been too short. I was going to be testing on the 12th, because that would have been 14 dpo, if it had been a fertile cycle, iykwim.
How are you feeling today?

jess When I went back to full time work and stopped about 2 feeds at once, I was sore and engorged for a good couple of days. I'm afraid you just have to grin and bear it. I did hand-express a little in the shower at night, just for comfort. Oh, yeh, like Karina said, raw cabbage leaves! Yes! Just watch the lumps don't get sore as they might indicate mastitis.
Rhiannon had her last bf yesterday morning too. She was only having one feed a day anyway and most mornings she just mucked around. So, I'm hoping I won't get too engorged or sore.
Thanks for kind thoughts re. AF arriving. I think I'm more disappointed by the fact that the poor little egg was already to go, but couldn't implant. At least I know what the prob is, so hopefully it won't take long now.
Re. finding out the sex: We wanted to with Rhiannon, but she had the cord between her legs, so the radiographer couldn't tell us for sure. I think we will want to find out next time as well. Definitely don't want to wait 9 months either!
Nope, no plans for my long weekend - just hang out at home with Rhiannon I think.

shell Thanks for kind thoughts re. AF arriving.
Oh, yeh, forgot about the link to open a new window.

Naomi Sorry, I can't remember if you've said yay/nay to the pressie-buying.

No bf for Rhiannon this morning. I think I missed it more than she did actually! She was quite happy to come into our bed and have a little bottle and a play before having her brekkie. Not feeling too full or anything yet. But then I don't think she was getting much out anyway, so I don't think I will get engorged.

Have a happy Saturday!

Well back from the motor show now, it was so much fun no it actually was! Had a wander around and look at all the cars - such a boy thing to do! Then went into the city and had some lunch, had a wander around Myer then come home. Such a good day out! Now I can relax!

Mel, sorry to hear about af turning up, it sux doesnt it, especially when you REALLY think you are preggers

Kari, you are cracking me up now!

Kell, Im not sure if you've told me before or not, but what sort of work do you do? I wish I could leave at times when its quiet, but unfortunately we cant. Yesterday arvo my boss ups and leaves and we thought he was going to tell us to go home, we were so bummed out that he got to go home early but we couldnt How was your cricket arvo?

jess, I really hope you can find some relief soon re your boobies. So Wednesday is first day back at work for you, I'll be thinking of you and I'll know where you are on Wendesday when I dont see you logging in here (during the day that is!) I bet you will feel good going back to work, kind of like extra independence for you and time to yourself, I hope you enjoy going back anyway

Shayne, I too am craving a Hawaiian Rejuvenation! What exactly did you get done? Do you know if its ok getting certain treatments done in the second half of the cycle? I did want to get a massage this weekend but unfortunately, the motor show got the vote for this weekend and next weekend will be so close to O Im not sure if I should get something done or not?

Tam, have a lovely weekend! Make sure you tell us all about it!

Shell, you talking to Kel about cheese has suddenly made me crave some Kraft Singles - its the only cheese we have in the house right now Enjoy your 3 day weekend - they are the best!

Karina, how nice your DH doing everything for you while you sleep on the couch. Nahhhh, dont feel guilty, enjoy it while it lasts!

Rach, Hi hon, how are you feeling?

Ok, well I think thats all for now, have a great weekend everyone!

Okay,

DH rang his twin bro to see if they wanted to come to dinner with us tonight. SO we all headed out to dinner, 5 mins into it BIL says, "actually it's good timing because we wanted to tell you SIL is pregnant!!" I say how many weeks????????? And she is 7, So of course I blurt out I'm 6! We weren't going to tell anyone until we had it all confirmed with OB so now I'm paranoid Not about them knowing, if anything goes wrong we'd tell them anyway but worried that I've jinxed it! They're going to keep it quiet until we've seen the OB anyway.

Funny thing is we see the same OB! And he can't tell DH and his bro apart. We told them about the DR and when they went there, he rang to his receptionist and said, why is Kari's husband here with another woman??

If my EDD is correct then I will most likely have a section on September 17th (the DR scheduled section morning) 2 weeks before EDD. She has been told to have a c/s too as with her 1st bub there some problems and she ended up having an emerg. c/s. Anyway she is booked for September 17th too!!

I am still in shock, I can't believe it It's too funny! We had a convo a while back about TTC and she said we'll probably end up with our sections booked on the same day and we laughed, never thinking it may actually happen

Wow Kari! That is unreal!
Your little one will have a playmate close in age hey?

Im feeling pretty good here. Had a broken sleep again and slept in Isaac's room most of the night but after waking at 6:30 I went back to sleep until 8:45 Isaac and Rob have just woken up too so everyone's had a lovely good night's sleep

Beccy - sounds like you had fun

Mel - Im in on the pressie thingo. One request is that Im not paired with someone due before September though - just because we'll be moving etc and I wont have the time to do it. But I tihnk most are due after that arent they?

Yep Im getting uncomfy now. Have to do a 10 point turn to roll over in bed or get out Feel like such a heffer!

Jess - i thought the same thing re the hand pump!

Looks like a lovely day here in Sydney Have to do grocery shopping since we put it off yesterday and had a lazy day at home instread due to the rain.

mel_11

Bugger AF arrived, hmm funny cause I O at day 17 and I got pregnant 2nd cycle, although my cycles are longer and AF arrives 10-16DPO, hope weaning helps, although it is sad, when I weaned Kiara I didn't think it was that big a deal but a couple of weeks later I noticed changes in myself and got a bit sad because I didn't have that bond anymore...

hehehe cheeky I know! But it was only chance/luck that got me silver

That's what I LOVE about LOST, yes it can be frustrating but I love theorising and going back over past episodes and figuring things out ....or not and ooohhh just love it! hehehe SO many people don't though and I can understand if you never got into it (you have to watch every episode or it just makes no sense!) then you wouldn't like it


Kari
I love the circus, hope you have fun today

Jess
When I weaned Kiara I did it in stages, it depends on how many feeds mia was doing and how much she was taking and if you've had any problems like inflammation or blocked ducts while breastfeeding
Say you were feeding her 3 times a day, then cut down to 2 feeds, then a week later 1 feed and then alternate days and then express little bits for comfort. If you don't want her on the breast do the same but with expressing.
That's what worked for me I weaned Kiara by 6 1/2 months, started at 4 1/2 months and I had no problems
Hope this helps
Saying this I know people that have weaned without expressing and just cutting down feeds and weaned in 2 weeks

I was 9 days overdue with Kiara when I was induced and then she was breach (which they didn't realise until after they broke my waters) and then she went into distress so don't want to be induced again, but I also have varying cycles 27-33 days so the 24th August isn't acurate due date, more likely 30th.

I went to a friends wedding yesterday, she looked so beautiful. I had tears in my eyes as she walked down the aisle with a huge grin on her face for her husband.....so romantic!
I've told DP I want a ring now, I've been saying that for the last 6 months or so and started thinking about weddings and what I want....I'm not a church girl, I would love something involving water, so under a waterfall or something like that and would like it just to be us, no family or friends but have a nice reception...also want it when this bub is about 18months so I can leave he/she with my parents or someone

So much to think about!

Hope everyone is having a good weekend

Hey all

Got to sleep in till 8:15am!!!- loving my DH at the moment And then today after he helps his bro with his budget we are going to Redcliffe (down by the water) to get fish and chips for lunch and sit by the sea on the grass and let Mia run around- can't wait and it's sunny+++ yeah!!

Em I think because I have always had a GREAT supply my (.)(.)'s are having a hard time "giving it up"!! I actually weaned the daytime feed at Christmas time (was doing 3 x day), then weaned the morning one 2-3 weeks ago and then the night time one last week so I thought I had given them enough time to cope Thanks for the tips And I was induced with Mia and SO don't want to have to do it again either. And I can understand wanting a ring- I was annoyed after 4 years with Paul and no kids let alone 1 and 1 one the way- how long have you been together??

I hear you re sleep in Rach- I got one too- and 8:45 wow!!!!! And sometimes its nice to be "forced" into a home day - hope you have anice day today too!

How bizarre re your SIL AND being c/s'd on the same day Kari !!!!! How great friends will those cousins be- Pauls sister was due the same week as Mia and it sucks they live in Cairns and can't grow-up close to each other. Bet you're still spinning re your SIL

Bec glad you had a fun DH day and you got lunch AND a shop too- very cool!!! Boobies are already staring to settle down thanks sweety (thanks to all the great advice- thanks girls!!) and I will def be coming in when I get home Wed to see what I missed (I know what you girls are like ) and to either whinge or tell you about my GREAT day hahaha!! Thanks re your kind words re work- thats exactly how I feel (albeit still a little scared hehehe- funny considering I was running the ward some shifts before I left )

Hope all have a great Sunday- catch up later
Ta jess

Hi girls,

Students are doing ok. I most likeley wont have the 11 class much longer anyway, I've asked for a swap so I don't have two early mornings. I already have a 12 class at 8am (other classes start at 9am) but the 11 class on Tuesdays I can't go home at lunch because of a staff meeting in the arvo. Had to tell teh English HOD why I wanted the change and that it was making me too tired so some of the staffroom know Waiting until after ultrasound this week before telling the others.

DH also told his Dad (after he had already blurted it out to everyone at his work ) I still haven't told my friends yet, will this week.

Went to the movies to see Sweeney Todd. It's acually quite a sad movie in many ways.

Not much else from me. Starting to get cravings for anything peanut related - peanut butter, satay, peanut brittle.... exactly the same as with DD Better go buy some more peanut butter me thinks

They just had on the news that the other boy died in hospital today. It will be another trumatic day for the kids tomorrow.

Hi there ladies! Wow, you all must be having a good weekend because I logged in thismorning and it was still the same page as last night!

Enigma - I am so sorry to hear the other boy died aswell! I hope the person that did it is brought to justice.

Jess - So glad to hear you are having a wonderful weekend, with the sleep ins and the sweet DH. And going to the beach (Redcliffe?) sounds sooooo nice, just what I would like to be doing now!! Oh and when I reread my post the next day, I thought I meant a hand pump for the boobies too! And I thought, what a stupid comment... What can I say, preg brain!! (don't know what I will blame when I am not pregnant ) Good luck for your 1st day back too!

Em - Yep, weddings will do that to you! Especially with a few preg hormones chucked in there! I actually have a number of friends with 1 or 2 kids who are still waiting for that ring, some have been with their partners for 10 years! What is it that makes men so complacent?? Remember this is a leap year, so you can always pop the question on the 29th

Rach - Glad you got a bit of a sleep in, and that it is a nice day in sydney! I saw on the smh that they are predicting 2 months of rain! It is starting to sound like where I live..... mind you we actually had 93 days in a row once with rain EVERY day.... At least it is good for the dams!

Kari - Wow, that really is amazing about SIL!! That is so exciting you can go through it all with someone so close!

Beccy - Glad to hear you had a great time at the motor show, and hope today has been very relaxing for you!

Mel - Glad Rhiannon is taking to weaning well, I am sure it would be even harder if you were upset!

Oh and I think it was Jess that asked about finding out the sex? I think we are pretty decided on not finding out for this one at least.... Mind you I know we will both be madly analyzing the US pics I am still kind of on the fence, but think in the end we probably will go with the surprise.

Hello to everyone else, hope you have all had a lovely weekend too!

Well, I had a lovely day yesterday, went with some friends I used to work with to another friend's house, (she went on maternity leave with her 1st child about when I started my job) so I don't know her really well, but on the few times I have seen her we get along really well. She is one of the few norwegians I have met that is actually open and easy to talk to, generally they are quite closed until you get to know them really well. Anyway, she had her 1st May 06, then her 2nd was a surprise, and she was born des 07. So now she is only 6 weeks old, and is soooooooo cute! I haven't spent a lot of time with really young babies, so it was really nice. While my friend was making lunch I was holding her and got her to stop crying and she fell asleep in my arms. You just get such a satisfied feeling Anyway, so it was lovely to chat to someone about babies and stuff, and she is so excited I am preggers. Looking forward to having someone who knows what is what in this country too to talk to! I was trying not to talk too much baby stuff though, cos the other 2 friends that were there are both single and childless so I am sure it bores them to tears. I kind of feel a bit bad talking about babies and stuff around friends like that? They are both nearly 30 and I know would love to have the relationship and baby thing happening, but just haven't met the right guy. So by talking about it I almost feel like I am rubbing it in their face if you know what I mean? Anyway, I can see why it would get a bit tricky balancing single friends and babies etc and doing stuff when your life starts going in different directions.

Well, that is my 2 cents, it is a lovely day today so hoping to go for a walk, but have some friends coming around so want to get some stuff done first. Don't know if the walk will fit in in the end...

Happy new week peoples!

xx shell

I had a fab w'end I missed Reanna but it was so relaxing. I met 2 members from EB in my NOV06 parents group & they are just as lovely as i imagined.

Then a shocking evening......basically i went to the supermarke prior to picking up pizzas.....got in car....got to the pizza joint to realise NO HANDBAG. So rush back to coles....nope no one seen a thing. I tried to call & call my mobile phone & it kept ringing out then it was turned off so thats it, my purse with $30 (thankgod only that i had $1350 last week when paying for my study fees), my new phone , u know license, keycard,medicare. The real thing we want back is the phone as DH bought it for my birthday in august so its only like 5months old....anyhows thats life hey? So have cancelled cards, reported missing blah blah & hoping for a miracle im so stupid leaving it

Ok now that the above post has sunk in LOL.....plz continue to read.......


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What about now????


YEP.......BFP


Hence Dh & I coping very well over the missing handbag I can't believe it Im so excited!!