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12/02/2009, 10:29 AM
DH and I have been TTC #4 since December 2006
I've just had my 3rd miscarriage in that time
First 2 miscarriages were all complete naturally, this time I've had a D&C. Mainly because my scan showed something in my left tube and it was suspected ectopic. I had a laporoscopy on Tuesday night to check the tube - turns out it was a cyst. Gyno said he didn't need to remove it, it was safe to leave it there, and would have only damaged the tube if he tried to remove it. I had a D&C while I was under.
I'll be seeing the gyno again in 3 weeks time. After I had my 2nd MC I was told they don't "routinely investigate" until you've had 3 in a row. Well I'm now at that point
Can anybody explain to me at all what will happen now? What exactly will they investigate? I didn't have any miscarriages at all until after I'd had my 3rd child. I just don't understand how I could have 3 babies (all in under 6 months of TTC), and now I keep miscarrying?
Any help appreciated.
12/02/2009, 10:43 AM
Oh Michaela I feel your pain. I had 5 in a row before DS, 5 in a row after, and 3 in a row after DD. I am now nervously 10 weeks preg with my 3rd.
I have had a barrage of tests including karyotyping (spell?), numerous investigative lap/hyst etc. Most tests conducted were just bloodtests, but all unfortunately came back negative. My DH was also tested. I have been told to just keep trying.
Like you, I have had successful pregnancies, so we know we can. It's just how much you are prepared to put yourself through to achieve your dream.
It's such a tough & personal decision. I wish you the best of luck in your journey & hope that they find a reason for your repeated M/C.
~4's enough 4 me~
12/02/2009, 08:26 PM
Sorry to hear of your losses.
I have also suffered 3 mc in a row, in between DS2 and DS3.
There are several tests you can have,some cost $$ and are not covered by medicare and others are fully covered.
Do you know if they were sending the product (sorry not the greatest use of words) of for testing from your D & C? if so they will be testing for any chromosomal defects. Just be prepared not to get any actual results from this testing as I was told it was rare that they do find anything. I was lucky they found my baby had Trisomy 21 (DS) and it was not compatible with life.
Other testing that the Gyno/Ob will do will be more blood tests to see if there are any other problems causing the mc's. The main ones will be the Karotyping (checking for chormosome abnormalities) and there is one for blood clotting (I cant remember the actual name). Just beware that not all of these tests are covered by medicare and some are very expensive, so if you dont have private health, check with the gyno and maybe start with just getting the tests that are covered done first. I did it this way.
It turns out that all of my mc's were bad luck and after a good rest I managed to fall pg and stay pg for the full term. I do think in the back of my mind that all of my mc's were girls (the 3rd definately was) and that maybe my body rejected them for that reason. I have heard about people only being able to carry a certain sex but of course it has never been proven.
Good luck, I hope you get some answers.
13/02/2009, 12:48 PM
Thanks so much for replying. Gives me a bit of an idea.
Do you know if they were sending the product (sorry not the greatest use of words) of for testing from your D & C?
Yes they did.
I also wondered if it was a 'girl' problem. My GP doesn't believe in the theory, but who knows.
13/02/2009, 12:56 PM
~JAS~ I am really sorry you are going through this again.
i don't know what tests they will do, just wanted you to know I am thinking of you at this difficult time
13/02/2009, 07:27 PM
I just read your other thread about Adam. I'm very sorry to hear about your losses. You have so much on your plate at the moment.
Wishing you a speedy recovery, answers to your questions and a beautiful bub on the way again when you're ready.
13/02/2009, 07:37 PM
I'm so sorry too
FukuroLady went off to have a similar investigation recently and her doc diagnosed her with PCOS
after taking blood for testing. Most likely you'll have some blood tests too to assess your hormone levels.
Good Luck and feel free to join us over there if you like.
13/02/2009, 07:43 PM
Hi Michaela, you might have read this in the TTC after loss thread, but I had testing done after my 2nd m/c. I had a full auto-immune workup testing for lupus coagulant, anticardiolipin antibody, antinuclear antibody, antiphospholipid antibody (all blood clotting problems). I tested positive for anticardiolipin and am now on low dose aspirin daily. DH and I also had karyotyping testing (chromosomal problems) however this was highly unlikely to be abnormal given our two children; so highly unlikely in your case as well. This was all tested via blood testing and they took about 8 vials of blood. I am so glad I was tested. Although my cardiolipin problem is not the definitive cause for my m/c's, it is still probable, so just being treated for that gives me a little bit more confidence for next time.
HTH and take care.
13/02/2009, 10:22 PM
just wanted to say sorry for your loss
thinking of you x
14/02/2009, 09:13 AM
I'm very sorry to hear about your losses.....
I have been in similar situation, after our first Son I also had three losses the first one naturally and the other two ended with a D&C. After this I had a barrage of blood tests (they took 12 vials of blood!) my DH also was tested they tested for all the usual things and also something called MTHFR (methylene tetra hydro folate reductase gene mutation) basically it is a mutuation that occurs on two genes and a lot of the popluation have this, it can occur at differing levels the whole gene can mutate or only part of the gene can. This can then cause clotting in the blood that can increase the chance of re-ocurrent miscarriage and also increases in other things like strokes and heart disease. My husband had both genes mutate and I only had one gene mutate but together this gave us increased risk. Once I became pg I was pescribed 100mg asprin 5mg folate, B6, B12 which I took everyday during pg this was to thin my blood and help with my blood cell count. I also found out that this condition can affect some pg's and not others so that is why some people will have children and then have problems and other's may have problems from the beginning of ttc. However because I never had my m/c tested I will never know the real reason but this worked for us. For more accurate info google mthfr. Good luck I hope it works out for you
14/02/2009, 09:48 AM
Michaela, I just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your losses. I can so empathise with your disbelief , I've had 3 losses ttc #4 all for different reasons, early miscarriage, ectopic and last was a partial molar pregnancy. I really thought after the first 2 that it wouldn't be possible to happen again, but it did.
I can't help you with your testing questions. All mine were put down to "bad luck" :S
I wish you all the best. I couldn't read with responding. I'm praying that you get some answers.
14/02/2009, 01:25 PM
Thank you so much everyone for all your replies. I have some idea now of what might happen. I will go and read that thread about FukuroLady now too.
14/02/2009, 01:35 PM
Oh f**k, Michaela!! That is just devestating.
I have nothing to offer except my complete sympathies, best wishes and I hope you can find some answers.
21/02/2009, 01:19 PM
Michaela, I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
I hope you find the answers you are looking for.
Take care of yourself.
25/02/2009, 07:53 AM
Oh Jas, I totally feel for you. hugs! I had three miscarriages in a row. huge hugs.
25/02/2009, 02:37 PM
Thank you Jacqui, Natasha and jonesgirl
I really appreciate your thoughts.
It's been 15 days now since my D&C and I'm doing ok. DH and I had an awesome chat about where we stand with TTC. It was always me that wanted #4, I had talked DH into over a few months of discussions back in 2006. A week after my D&C I admitted to him that I was having second thoughts about continuing with TTC. I assumed he would just say 'ok then let's just move on' iykwim. I couldn't have been more wrong! It's DH that now wants to continue
He's convinced me to keep on TTC. I have my gyno appt on 16th March, not sure what is going to happen on that day exactly. Hoping to have a sticky one on board very soon after. Please wish me luck
25/02/2009, 02:42 PM
Great news Michaela, hope to be reading about your sticky bean soon.
(While you're at it throw one my way
All the best, thinking of you
07/03/2009, 06:40 AM
So sorry. I know how awful it is. You poor thing. I hoping your taking good care of yourself. Treat yourself. I not long recovered from two miscarriages in a row but have had three because I had one the month before Harry. I demanded that I had tests done after my third. Although I wanted done after my second. Basically they just did BT's. The OB was pretty positive that nothing would come back negative. However, something did. Although she says the thing that came back isn't anything serious but I need to take half an asprin every day for the first 12 weeks as soon as I fall pregnant again.
11/03/2009, 10:18 AM
Michaela my thoughts are with you. I came across your post as I am facing an EP.
A friend of mine had 2 DD no problems she then had 8 mc's (one being triplets) then managed to have her 3rd DD and has since had another 3 mc's she has had alot of testing done and been told after having the last 6 mc tested (8 angels) they have all been boys. She doesnt know what her first three were as they never had them tested but now believes that they too were boys and has been told by her Dr that she is unable to carry boys and any further children she falls pregnant with she will mc if its a boy.
I hope you are able to get some answers when you see your ob next week and I have all my sticky baby dust your way
11/03/2009, 04:07 PM
I'm so sorry to read your news Carmie
Thanks for your reply, and you too Ingrid.
My new batch of IC HPT arrived today - I did one today at only 9dpo and of course it was
I wasn't upset - there is a method to my madness
I'm hoping for a
in another 3 or 4 days time - and if that's the case, at least I'll know it's not 'leftover' hcg from my MC - as I've had a
today. That's my theory anyway! I was told not to TTC this cycle but I feel I'm ready, emotionally and physically, so we didn't bother with skipping a cycle.
11/03/2009, 06:06 PM
I really admire you for your strength and determination. I lost my baby not that long after you did. I went for my scan and there was no heartbeat, absolutely devastating. It was my 3rd miscarriage as well. I don't know if we will try again. I really hope you get the news you want in the next few days. I will be keeping an eye out for news.
11/03/2009, 09:12 PM
After I had my 2nd MC I was told they don't "routinely investigate" until you've had 3 in a row. Well I'm now at that poin
Makes me so cross. I was told the same thing a week or so ago by the ob. I forgot to tell him that i had a 5 weeks m/c before dd#1.
Can't offer any advice but am so sorry for your loss
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