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Kristina13
11/11/2010, 10:25 AM
I lived many years ago in a block of units with small back gardens fenced off with a lowish fence between each unit. A tradie was next door doing some work for my elderly neighbour and he brought a dog with him. That night I found my pet bunny (who was not in a cage) decapitated in my garden.
I had no proof its was the tradie's dog but it was very coincidental......
mumtojake&max
11/11/2010, 10:31 AM
When the tradie I hired to polish my floor boards would not agree to leave his dog at home (stating he would keep his in the front yard and I could keep mine in the back yard) I sacked him and hired another company....
My yard - My rules...
kalita
11/11/2010, 10:31 AM
QUOTE (heffalumpsnwoozles @ 11/11/2010, 10:25 AM)

I wish everyone could bring their dog to work.
God I'm glad they can't. Some of us aren't dog people (to put it politely).
tjmama
11/11/2010, 10:40 AM
I do think its sweet but in saying that, I tried taking my dog & toddler for a walk down the street and a builder's dog started growling & barking at us as we walked past the 'block' & started coming closer to us, the owner/builder called his dog back but I didn't feel safe. So we had to take a different route.
eta - If the builder is working on/in a house with ppl in it, their dog should stay at HOME!
They are being hired to do work!! Their dog has nothing to do with the work.
However, a vacant block/house, possibly, as along as its on a lead & doo-doo's picked up.
Shauna+Molly+Annie
11/11/2010, 11:26 AM
It would not be fine at my house. Simply due to it driving my two dogs mad and it would put me on with me having to put up with the barking or the potential dog fights that might start.
I think its fine on commercial sites and on new established suburbs that are yet to have occupants. But common sense would say you dont take your dog until you have permission if it was a domestic site and you looked after your dog and cleaned up its business.
OP I would not put up with it and I am surprised you are.
50ftqueenie
11/11/2010, 11:37 AM
As long as the dog was well behaved I wouldn't mind. If it was causing problems I'd have no hesitation asking them not to bring the dog anymore.
This is why I'm a cat person. Some dog owners seem to want to bring their pets EVERYWHERE, it gets a bit annoying.
~ky~
11/11/2010, 01:06 PM
If a tradie turned up at our place with a dog in tow, I would be telling him to tie it up or leave it in his vehicle as my DD is terrified of dogs and this is the one place that she knows she can be without worrying about them. I will not allow someone else to invade her safe place with a dog.
I think it's really rude. Some people choose not to have dogs and do not wish to have them on their property. Our lease also states "No Dogs" - why would I potentially put my right to live here at risk?
Holidayromp
11/11/2010, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (Loaf @ 11/11/2010, 09:13 AM)

I worked for a company managing tradie contractors. We had to ask one of the crews to refrain from taking his pet goat to sites...
Awwwwww spoilsports
Mexy
11/11/2010, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (Loaf @ 11/11/2010, 08:13 AM)

I worked for a company managing tradie contractors. We had to ask one of the crews to refrain from taking his pet goat to sites...
Goat? hehehehehe. funny!
QUOTE (emmej @ 11/11/2010, 09:37 AM)

Our lab used to stalk the builders esky and they learnt very quickly to leave the lid on securely!! He used to sit at attention at the feet of whoever was having smoko at the time hoping to get the scraps (very naughty but they didn't mind- liked the company I think). He got very chubby that year! Once when cleaning up dog poo, someone's sandwhich, still in the ziplock bag, which had obviously been wolfed down in one gulp and digested very quickly, as it come out the back end exactly the same as it had gone in the front end!!!!!!!!!!!

That is hilarious!
mad madam mim
11/11/2010, 02:12 PM
aslong as it was a friendly dog and they cleaned up after it i usually wouldn't have a problem, however ds1 is allergic so that alone would have me asking them not to bring their dogs with them.
pbgirl
11/11/2010, 02:18 PM
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**Xena**
11/11/2010, 02:31 PM
It doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as people who don't keep their cat indoors, on a leash or in a cat run!
However I think that a tradie that intends on bringing their dog along should state their intentions to do so and should clean up after their animal.
Buy Me A Pony!
11/11/2010, 02:40 PM
I love that tradies take their dogs with them but really they should stay on the back of the ute or truck they arrived on. We have a tradie who brings his dog inside our house! When I asked him to leave her outside as we have a cat, he said "she'll be right"

Erm yeah maybe she will, but my cat won't. This same dog was wandering in the nearby park when he was at another job and nipped two people and chased me and got me on the back of the leg. Seriously.
Midwitch
11/11/2010, 06:13 PM
I'd let my dog go say hello. The resulting vet bill would discourage the tradie from bringing their dog again.
Bellazeus
11/11/2010, 06:55 PM
I dont care what they do on commercial sites or new estates. They would be sent home here.
I absolutely love dogs, but not even my friends dogs are allowed here. Apart from the fact that we have livestock, I have two rather large dogs, one who doesnt take kindly to strange dogs on her property. I have to take an hour to introduce her to a new dog so she doesnt pin them to the ground.
LivingRoom
11/11/2010, 07:14 PM
QUOTE
Their utes and trailers contain a small fortune in tools. The dogs are used to guard/help prevent thieves from stealing.
How is it keeping the their stuff safe when the dog isn't in the ute tray and is off with the builder?
I have no problems with it as long as they clean up their mess (all of it) and control their dog.
blackbird
11/11/2010, 07:39 PM
QUOTE (danielle1985 @ 11/11/2010, 09:21 AM)

Tradies bring their dogs onsite to guard their equipment and tools. For this reason a tradies dog is actually able to be claimed for tax reasons. Leaving it at home doesn't have the same effect
That being said- they should most definitely clean up after them!!!

yup this, however if they don't stay with the cars/utes/vans or tools then they should ask permission in case there's other dogs or anti-dog people at the job site.
blackbird
11/11/2010, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (Midwitch @ 11/11/2010, 07:13 PM)

I'd let my dog go say hello. The resulting vet bill would discourage the tradie from bringing their dog again.
you would actually allow your dog to attack another? thats rather immature and irresponsible. The resulting vet bills would most likely be yours as the dog is considered a security item that your dog damaged not to mention the possibility of your dog being consider as a dangerous animal and put down.
sassymummy
11/11/2010, 07:57 PM
Just FWIW, I love dogs, and would be over the moon if a tradie had his dog tag along when working at my house, so long as he let me pat it.
*vicki*
11/11/2010, 08:13 PM
The people a couple of doors down are renovating and their builder has been bringing his dog, and lets it roam the street! Bloody annoying as it pooed on our lawn a couple of times. So when i saw one of the guys in the street i just said to him could he keep it in their yard, he gave me a bit of "oh yeah, its the boss' dog" so i gave him a bit of "if i wanted to pick up dog poo off my lawn i'd buy a dog" Havent seen it in the street again
Cali~
11/11/2010, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (danielle1985 @ 11/11/2010, 08:21 AM)

Tradies bring their dogs onsite to guard their equipment and tools. For this reason a tradies dog is actually able to be claimed for tax reasons. Leaving it at home doesn't have the same effect
That being said- they should most definitely clean up after them!!!

What rubbish. Theft occurs more at construction work sites, where dogs are certainly not allowed.
There are no rights for dogs where tradies work.It is pure presumption.
blackbird
11/11/2010, 08:31 PM
I dont think any one has suggested the dog has rights regarding work sites? but they are a tax deduction and considered a business expense. So if the Australian tax office has reconsied them as such then there must logically be something in it all, I think it just needs some rules and common sense.
suziej
11/11/2010, 09:10 PM
My hubby is a tradie and, when I mentioned this topic, he said (edited to take out tradie speak) that he far preferred not having dogs to trip him up. I will leave the edits made to your imagination.
Most Building Standards and sub-contracts would have clauses on about not having dogs on worksites - I think it would probably contravene quite a few OH&S Standards also.
sassymummy
11/11/2010, 09:40 PM
QUOTE (moss @ 11/11/2010, 08:40 PM)

I disagree.
If I do not want a tradesperson to bring their dog to my property then they do not bring it. There is no ensuing discussion.
They can take out insurance on their tools and lock them up in their vehicle.
Whilst I agree that if someone does not want a dog roaming their property, then the tradesperson needs to make sure their dog remains in their vehicle, I disagree about the part about just locking up their tools.
They often have HEAPS of tools... and that's why they often have utes. You can lock them up, but these locks can still be broken into quite easily. Insurance might be a good answer for the long-term, but when someone needs money to make ends meet, waiting for hte insurance to come through would mean they would not be able to work.
I think it's up to a tradesperson whether or not they want a dog to protect their tools... and if they want a dog in their vehicle then it is their personal choice. If they want to take their dog onto a domestic property though, I think they should ask the owner, and should also make sure they clean up after their dog.
onthephone
11/11/2010, 10:52 PM
I would not let them on site. Why do dog people think that others want their dogs around?
kat11
12/11/2010, 12:53 AM
QUOTE
Their utes and trailers contain a small fortune in tools. The dogs are used to guard/help prevent thieves from stealing.
We recently put a new cord on our dropsaw (DH nicked it) and the bloke at toolmart says is a full-time job fixing cords on powertools that tradies dogs have chewed through.
I have no problem wtih a tradie bring his dog with him as long as its well behaved.
BadgerBasher
12/11/2010, 01:19 AM
From time to time, the dogs are better behaved than the tradies...
The tradies who've come to ours have always asked if their dog was welcome. I don't care, as long as they're kept off the street and out of my house. My cats just sit at the window and stare at them.
TDRH
12/11/2010, 01:31 AM
My hubby wouldn't dream of taking either of our dogs on site.
But do agree with the tools even in locked tool boxes we've had some try to break into them when he's been either inside someones home or in the back yard working. some tools are over 10k to replace just one of them in DH's trade.
Midwitch
12/11/2010, 05:18 AM
QUOTE (blackbird @ 11/11/2010, 07:42 PM)

you would actually allow your dog to attack another? thats rather immature and irresponsible. The resulting vet bills would most likely be yours as the dog is considered a security item that your dog damaged not to mention the possibility of your dog being consider as a dangerous animal and put down.
You'd be wrong about that. The laws in NZ are different - they protect homeowners, not tradies. My dog's job is to protect our home and family. A dog roaming or entering private property is the dog owners liability - any damage it causes or any injuries to it are the owners problem. And the homeowner can claim costs against them as well. BTDT. My neighbour stopped letting his dog dig under the fence and roam after a very hefty bill and legal costs.
geoang
12/11/2010, 07:06 AM
QUOTE (Loaf @ 11/11/2010, 08:13 AM)

I worked for a company managing tradie contractors. We had to ask one of the crews to refrain from taking his pet goat to sites...
LOL!!! That's pretty awesome he even had a pet goat tho. I don't know if it would concern me, if they were poultry friendly and trained it could be ok but if it's not then they'd be told straight up it can't come on the property unless they want to start paying for show chooks, which can cost hundreds.
Bacongirl
12/11/2010, 07:15 AM
QUOTE (Jip @ 11/11/2010, 10:17 AM)

It's protecting their tools, so I really don't have a problem with it. Agree with others that they should clean up after themselves. Most of the ones I encounter clean up after their dogs, and their dogs are very well trained, too.
QUOTE (pbgirl @ 11/11/2010, 02:18 PM)

Their utes and trailers contain a small fortune in tools. The dogs are used to guard/help prevent thieves from stealing.
QUOTE (LivingRoom @ 11/11/2010, 07:14 PM)

How is it keeping the their stuff safe when the dog isn't in the ute tray and is off with the builder?
I have no problems with it as long as they clean up their mess (all of it) and control their dog.
The whole 'protecting the tools thing' is bullsh*t! Most tradies we've had park their utes at the bottom of our 30mtr long driveway after they've unloaded whatever they might need. You can't even see the truck from our house and the dogs arw usually roaming our fenced back yard.
I have no problem with tradies bringing their dogs as long as 1. They ask first 2. The dog stays outside (unless invited by ME. 3. They pick up after it.
Our lawn guy brings his 14 year old cattle dog (asked first!) and he picks up after him. Even sends Christmas cards with pics of the dog wearing a santa hat and photo shopped into sleighs and presents! The kids love it.
My boss also brings his dog to work frequently (office job). We all enjoy it. Oscar (the dog) knows when you're stressed and comes and puts his head in your lap or lays on your feet. Quite perceptive!!
Winterdanceparty
12/11/2010, 09:08 AM
It is very annoying IMO and if you have dogs, this dog is invading their territory and this is a no-no. The tradies should be asked to either tie the dog up or leave it at home as it is height of ill manners to bring your dog to someone's place without permission.
*Appletree*
12/11/2010, 09:08 AM
I would not be happy at all and would say so.
casime
12/11/2010, 10:11 AM
They would not be welcome here. I am a breeder and often have b**ches in season or young puppies around, and a dog of unknown background and may not be desexed is absolutely not allowed on my premises. I'm in the middle of large acreage, so there's no chance of things being stolen off their truck around here.
~Tamm2
12/11/2010, 10:22 AM
As long as they check with us first, the dog is well behaved and doesn't wander unnecessarily, then we wouldn't have a problem.
It would be a "case by case" basis thing with us. We are obviously dog lovers, but I respect that not all people are AND that when there are other dogs and animals at a property, then responsible owners of dogs would sort this out first as otherwise, there could be lots of problems / issues.
I think it's very different on construction sites (i.e new home being built) then in an established house with people and other animals in residence.
I know quite a few tradies and mostly, they carry their dogs for companionship (it can be lonely work their work

) And yes, most of the dogs I've known who go with their "masters" are sort of defacto guard dogs.
I've never known them to be roaming type dogs at all. Mostly, the tradies dogs I've seen DO stay with the truck and DO protect the tools etc and offer some company for the tradie.
I have noticed, living around here, that many, many tradie vehicles have very professional, elaborate, well made cages for the dogs on the back of the truck. I've been very impressed actually at how WELL cared for and respected, most of the dogs seem to be who are being transported around by tradies
But it is just polite and good manners to check first, before taking an animal anywhere.
Tamm
blackbird
12/11/2010, 10:22 AM
The common sense part of my post would refer to 1. asking permission 1st! this is a given, then theres nothing to talk about is there? if theres no opportunity to ask 1st then the dog must be secured at all times.
2. they clean up after the dog, seriously tradies should know better, you have to do it on the street so if your at a clients property you should do that also.
So really if you have a problem with a tradies dog, TELL THEM! don't just sit and simmer and whine about and it make threats. I'm sure they wouldn't want to lose your business.
blackbird
12/11/2010, 10:27 AM
QUOTE (~Tamm2 @ 12/11/2010, 11:22 AM)

I know quite a few tradies and mostly, they carry their dogs for companionship (it can be lonely work their work

) And yes, most of the dogs I've known who go with their "masters" are sort of defacto guard dogs.
Tamm
Yes I agree.
~Tamm2
12/11/2010, 10:39 AM
My brother is a tradie. He had a most beautiful dog that went everywhere with him

Old Ted died of old age a few years ago and everyone was devastated...he was like an institution that dog, never caused a problem in many years and was much loved..used to go into the industrial area and "do the rounds" saying "good morning" to all the neighbouring businesses every morning

before settling beside the truck OR in summer you'd find him in the air-con'd office - same in winter if it was too darn cold!!
BUT - he had ears and nose like you wouldn't believe and if ANYONE that he didn't know or trust went near any "stuff" he'd be alert and spring to attention...nothing ever got stolen, all he did was make them aware someone was around.
ALL my brothers 3 kids learned to walk by pulling themselves up on Teds tail

He was just the most gentle and amazing dog. Perfect animal to have really....I miss him too
My brother is SUCH an animal lover, years ago he took on a
huge Cockatoo that had been rescued but was vicious, yet couldn't be released to the wild again.
In 12 months, he had tamed the darn thing!!!! No one knew how...but that bird went everywhere with him, sat on the back of the car seat like "lord muck" and talked to him and it was just amazing. The bird would hang around him and NO ONE could get near my brothers things without the bird going birko
Alas, it was extremely sad - someone murdered the bird...rotten, gutless idiots
I think it's lovely to have companionship and I would never deny a tradie or anyone else having their animal with them, unless it was a problem.
Tamm
April girl
12/11/2010, 10:44 AM
QUOTE (Loaf @ 11/11/2010, 09:13 AM)

I worked for a company managing tradie contractors. We had to ask one of the crews to refrain from taking his pet goat to sites...
OMG that is so funny!
bonnybabe
12/11/2010, 10:59 AM
They do it so their dog doesn't get lonely sitting by himself at home. My dad builds dairies and his whippet goes everywhere. On nice days he either sits near where dad is working by the dairy, or if it is cold he sits inside the ute cabin and has a snooze - that is a farm though so no need to worry about droppings. If there are other dogs and they don't get along dad's dog either stays on teh back of the ute or at home if it is a hot day. He love it and would be very lonely at home.
Sail to the Moon
12/11/2010, 11:54 AM
If the tradie asks permission, the dog is well behaved and the location is safe, then I think it is great that tradies bring dogs along to work.
I would love to take my dogs to work

. I'd rather see a dog that is part of someones life, instead of a dog who is left in a backyard all day with no attention.
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