Hi everyone...well DR has sent us for some tests...YAY...So fingers crossed...Its a step in the right direction she also commented on a Gyno..who is the one too see here about M/C help...SO..it made me feel better..iykwim...Sorry havent caught up on the posts....will do over the weekend...
Cheers
Rowy

Afternoon all

Rowy - that's good news, definetely a step in the right direction. Good luck with the tests.

Doots - no that was a BFP congrats to Mel, lol I think you read it as 'me' because I had lots of !!! after it, sorry to confuse you like that.

Lili - IKWYM some days it's nice just to read & not post.

Kylie - enjoy the book, you're right it doesn't hurt to read & if you think it sounds too good to be true then it probably is but hey anything's worth a try.

Susan - oops looks like I confused you too, must go back & edit my last post. No I didn't get a BFP, no such luck for me I'm afraid & won't be until at least April now as we are abstaining until after my lap Happy Anniversary - hope you have a lovely night out

Leoni - bugger isn't it always the way when you have plans. Hope you're still getting plenty of time to spend with your visitors. Yes you're making perfect sense, bugger that AF, even though you wanted to wait at least 1 cycle it's still a slap in the face.

Shelzy - not sure what to make of your chart. When I first looked I thought CD24 looked more like O? which day did you think it was? gee you have long cycles, I thought I was bad having O around CD18. Wouldn't it be nice to O around CD12-14 just once & have a nice short cycle!

Keggsie - good luck for the scan tomorrow

DH & I decided to go out for a drive today. We went to a town about 1hr from here, visited a beautiful old mansion (the one where Picnic at Hanging Rock was filmed) have been there before but it was nice to go there again & they'v made some changes since we last went. Then went out for lunch, browsed around some shops & come home. It was a really nice day out together. Just what we needed.


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[color=maroon]Nett & Mark
[color=maroon][SIZE=2]TTC#1 since Oct 02
m/c Nov 03 5wks
[color=orange]DCats Patsy & Tish

Hi all,
congrats to all the BFP girls. Haven't been here for a couple of days, been flat out with everything at home. Had bad news this week with my grandmother dying on wednesday and my great aunt dying on sunday. Mum is pretty upset as it was her mum and her aunt (father's sister). She was the only one in her family that had the double loss as her father was killed in WW2 and all her brothers and sisters are from her mother's second marriage and had nothing to do with her father's family. It was made worse as it was mum's birthday on sunday, and she can't even grieve with the families as they are all in the UK. (grandmother lived in Wales, Great aunty in England). Couldn't tell you what day I am at I haven't been keeping track. We are off to Sussex Inlet tommorrow for the weekend. So hopefuly it will be nice and relaxing and I can come home feeling 100%
Hope there are lots more BFP this month. Bye for now

Me Fay
DP Gary
DD#1 11/9/83 Lives away
DS#1 11/4/85 Lives away
DD#2 7/8/87 Lives at home
DD#3 14/2/90 Lives away
DD#4 28/7/95 Lives at home
DS#2 13/6/96 Lives at home
M/C Aug 2003
Check out our family at http://members.optusnet.com.au/~mumofmany

Hi girls,

Not much happening over my way. I've never really been into the charting thing or testing for ovulation but I did recall something about the position of your cervix around O time. Is it correct that if your cervix is low (ie: you can feel it) you are not O'ing and if it is high (ie: you can barely touch it) you ARE O'ing? TMI coming up....Yesterday when I felt for my cervix I could touch it easily but this morning when I felt for it I could just barely touch the tip of it. Should I go and BD with DH now? We did it yesterday but now that my cervix is high I was wondering if we should do it again. *SIGH* I have no idea what to do.....

ROWY: Good luck with your tests darl. I have my fingers crossed for you.

MRS_STEVO: Sounds like you had a lovely afternoon with your Hubby. I hope you enjoyed yourself. I've never seen Picnic at hanging rock... I've always said that I'd like to see it but I've never got around to watching it... I might do that this weekend.

MUMOFMANY: I'm so sorry to hear your sad news about your Grandmother and Great Aunt. Please accept my condolences to you and your family at this hard time. I hope that your weekend away is relaxing and try to make some time for yourself to grieve. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. {{{hugs}}}

BUGSY: How are you hun?? Haven't heard from you for awhile. I hope you are ok.

OK, Sorry to everyone I've missed. I hope you all have a great weekend. Good luck to everyone.

Luv Angel -x-x-x-

DS: 1993
DS: 1995
M/C: Feb '04

Hi all,
Well this is the 3rd time I've tried to post in a couple of days. I lost the other 2, and by that stage I was too annoyed to do them again.

Fay - sorry to hear about your gran and great aunt. A week end away - how lovely. Enjoy yourself.

Nett - isn't nice when you just have together time that is kind of spontaneous and doesn't involve to many decisions IYKWIM.

I can't remember any of the other post from the last thread. Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend.
AF was due yesterday, but hasn't arrived. I started to get cramps and a little bit of staining since Wednedays, but nothing since Thursday. I was hoping it would get here by the weekend, so I can deal with the pain at home. And I've got a 2 day conference this week, where I can't go home if I want to. Typical.
I hopped on the scales yesterday and I've lost 1/2 a stone (sounds more impressive then 4 kilos), which I am really pleased about and it gives me more incentive to continue.

Allie (27)
DH (29)
M/C: August '03
M/C: January '04
TTC: Jan '03

Hi Guy's...

I took a downunder OPK yesterday and it was negative.I am still reading up on those web pages and learning a bit more about LH surges..
Today I have the start of right sided pains...gee I hope its those damn follicles....growing...!!!CD11..

Hope you are all having a great weekend...
I promise personals next post
Dan xx

Me-30, DH-30, DD-8, DS-4.
2 Angel stars..

Hi y'all
Just checking in to say g'day. I'm having a lovely
day at home today and have been watching a video
on the couch.

It's pretty quiet here today - you must all be out
enjoying your weekend.

DAN - those RH side pains sound promising - I'd
be doing another OPK today if you've got one.

ALLIE - good on you for losing 1/2 a stone - I wish I
could do that. I hope AF doesn't turn up!

ANGEL - I can't help your query - I've never checked
the cervix as a fertility sign. I reckon you should BD
with DH anyway though!

FAY - I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother
and great aunt - you poor thing - all in 1 week. I'm
glad to hear that you are going away for the w/e -
you deserve it - have a great time.

NETT - that drive sounds gorgeous - what a great
thing to do.

ROWY - good luck with the tests - I had all the tests
done - it's not so bad - I reckon the worst is for the
bloke - but anyway - not so hard when you consider
what us girls go through.

LEONI - hope you're surviving your visitors and
you're not too frantic.

LAMMY - how are you going? Are you past the 12
week stage yet?

To everyone else - hi - would love to hear from you.

Boosy

Hi Ya All,

Something really wierd has happened to me today, from the moment I opened my eyes I have had this urge to CLEAN. So far got through bathroom, wiped down every item in pantry, washed couch covers and heaps of washing, about to rearrange clothes in draws. This is NOT a common occurance so have to make the most of it. My m/s also appears about 4pm (WA time remember) so just quick note today.

Nett - thanks for clearing that up - maybe its a sign of whats around the corner for you?

Fay - hope you are enjoying your weekend after a tough week

Angel - I only really used OPKs but found good summary of Cervix position and all sorts of related stuff at http://www.woomb.org/

Allie - Grat news about the weight loss, also read (ok, yes I read heaps) that if anyone losses 5kg heathily, it really ups the chances of concieving as your body apparently likes this, theres some moe incentive for you!

Danielle - agree, those pains sounds positive, grow little follicles!

Boosy - sounds like a tough weekend there! What symptons do you have at the moment (if I use AF I am due same date as you). And when are you planning on getting your dating /7 week ish scan done?

OK, back to grindstone.

Cheers

Doots

Doots - glad someone's around!

Yes, it's a very tough w/e over at my house! I was
actually just thinking about the fact that I haven't
booked into my OB yet - which means that we
haven't discussed when my 1st scan will be. I was
thinking of waiting until Wednesday when my HCG
levels will be checked but I suppose there's no
point waiting ie. I should be more positive. I might
ring the OB and book in on Monday. I will be
wanting to have a scan as soon as he'll allow - for
obvious reasons! Symptoms that I've got ATM are
extreme tiredness - especially in the arvo and at
night, strong lightheadedness/dizziness (makes it
very hard to concentrate at work), thirsty, peeing
more and just generally feeling crap. My cramps
have gone thank god - one less thing to worry
about. Are you due on 1.11 too?

Gotta go out to dinner tonight with the girls which
will be interesting 'cos normally they know that I
like a few vinos. Luckily I'm driving so I've got the
excuse. We're going to a Japanese restaurant
though which means I'll also have to avoid sushi
which I love - oh well - small price to pay.

Boosy

Here I am again on a boring Sat arvo. DH has gone to watch his team play bowls (he's out for the rest of season with his arm) so I'm bored. Visited a friend earlier, they have a 2y.o DD who was their little ICSI buba because her DH has very low sperm count. They are getting ready to go back for #2 & will try FET first (they have 2 embies in storage). She's pretty nervous as you would expect, they were very lucky & had success with their first go at ICSI but she knows that the success rate with FET is not as good. It's really nice to have such a close friend who understands what it's like to have trouble TTC & all the crap that goes with it.

Doots - let's hope that you misreading my post is a good sign - I soo hope so!

boosy - hope you've enjoyed your video & day at home. It's so nice just to lounge out on the couch in front of the tv sometimes. I think I'll do that tomorrow.

Dani - that side pain has got to be a sign, get BD'ing girl

Allie - I hope AF stays away *fingers crossed*

Angel - same advice as Dani - if you feel like BD'ing then just do it! It certainly can't do any harm IYKWIM

Fay - so sorry to hear about your grandmother & great aunt. Your poor Mum, it must be awful for her. take care.

Hope everyone else is enjoying their weekend. Wer're going to a BBQ at Mark's bowls club for tea, both our parents play for the same club so it's a bit of a family get together thing for us & a cheap meal. Oh & yes I'm talking about lawn bowls - DH likes hanging around with old foggies LMAO

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[color=maroon]Nett & Mark
[color=maroon][SIZE=2]TTC#1 since Oct 02
m/c Nov 03 5wks
[color=orange]DCats Patsy & Tish

Boosy,

Due 29/10 from Oday, 1/11 from AF but my cycle is also give or take several days at best of times! From what I understand, 7.5wks for first scan should mean you definately see a heartbeat (anyone else give me an earlier date and I will take it!), I don't want to go too early then stress for a week, so that was kind of what I was working towards, havn't booked yet either. I have similar symptons, my light spotting has stopped which is good. I love sushi too - but not too keen on fish or chicken at mo which helps!

Nett - Fingers crossed hey!! It is nice to have a friend who understands. My DH is at work for another couple of hours, he has a big deadline in about a week and so will be able to take it easier then.

Cheers

Doots

Hmmm where could you all be?? Is it that you all have lives and I don't?? Anyway, Not much happening around here. Boring weekend...

ALLIE2003: Way to go losing 1/2 a stone... I wish I had your motivation...

DANNIELLE: You meantioned right sided pains? What exactly do they feel like? And what exactly is it? Sorry if I seem a little vauge but I have never really charted/tested before and I have no idea what to do. I had a pain (like a niggling but sharp pain) on my right hand side yesterday (never had it before) Does it usually mean ovulation? Hmmm I must sound really silly.....

OK, DH and I BD "just incase" I am O'ing... Sorry, TMI... But I'm bored Oh yeah... I managed to work out how to put pics in my post... Yippee!!!!!

Ok.... I've rambled on enough now. Take care all...

Angel -x-x-x-

DS: 1993
DS: 1995
M/C: Feb '04

Good Morning,
It is mighty quiet on here this weekend. Hopefully everyone is out enjoying the beautiful weekend.

Danielle - I hope those pains are a good sign. I have my fingers crossed for you.

Boosy - sounds as though you had a lovely day on the couch (sometimes the best place to be isn't it?).

Doots - if your still in the cleaning mood when your house is done, you can always do mine!!! The cleaning bug hasn't visited me in a long time.

Nett - I think we can all appreciate those people that really understand what we are going through and feeling. I hope all goes well with her.

Angel - another without a life here!!!! :-) Some times you can feel O. It is a niggling feeling on one sign. Just check that the next month, the pain is on the other side. I'd BD just in case anyway.

I need some serious advice.
I am 16dpo, my latuel has tended to be shorter rather than longer since my first m/c. (This is my first AF since my 2nd m/c). Anyway, I am now overdue, I had cramps since wednesday off and on, and a little staining (if you can even call it that!), but that's gone since about Thursday, though occassionally I've had short bursts of cramping. However, I don't feel pg like I did with the other two. Those times I had cramping from O and my bbs hurt by this stage and I felt tired etc. I have no symptoms.
I am concerned because my naturopath gave me Chaste Tree and Dong Qui to take, but told me that if I suspected that I was pg to stop taking them. Chances are AF is just being a right pain in the neck, but a small part of me is worried that if I continue to take it, I might be pg and I don't know why you don't take them during pg. IYKWIM.
My temp this morning was the highest it has ever got before (though I did take it 1 1/2 hours later than normal.
Any suggestions? I don't want to be pg yet, I don't think I can deal with all the crap that comes with it, only to end up loosing it again.




Allie (27)
DH (29)
M/C: August '03
M/C: January '04
TTC: Jan '03

Updated list - I hope I haven't missed anyone's details - please let me know if I have and I will correct - Enjoy -

The Positive Quote competition has ended – I will be posting the name of the winner shortly!
Great idea Doots and hot on the tail of Keggsie’s joke competition, I am going to run another comp to gain a Positive quote. So post your positive quotes, and I will get a few friends to judge them and the one that is the best, not only gets their winning quote displayed at the top of our list, but will get a surprise from me posted to them. Good luck everyone!

The Biting the Bullet Beauties List

Please post your updates (email me if you want or if I miss your post) and I will update the list. I will place it as close to the top of each new thread as I can (It will only be posted once a thread). If I haven’t seen a post from you in a while, I will remove your name from the list, but will happily add it if you contact me with fresh details. Also let me know if you want your name or details removed.

Babes in arms:
***** Our first BTB Baby!!!!!! *****
Lucy 2nd Pregnancy, (1 MC 7/02 @ 12 weeks) “Olivia Elizabeth” Born 21/2/04 (EDD 17/02/2004)

Buns Baking:

Bec 4th pregnancy, (DS1 4yrs, DS2 1 yr, MC twins 12/03)EDD 10/04
Boosy TTC#2 for 12 months, 2 m/c's, on cycle #1 Clomid EDD 1/11/04
Debbie 6th pregnancy 1 M/C. Baby due 2 July 2004.
Jesse TTC #1 since Nov 2001 (27months) 2 ectopic pregnancies EDD ??
Keggsie 6th pg 5th child (me), 3rd pg 2nd child (DP) due 11/03/04
Lammy 1st child - due Sept 11 (after 15 months ttc and 1 m/c)
Loretta 5th pg, EDD 3/10/04. DD 2years, DD 7 months, 2 m/c's
Melinda TTC #1 since March 03, 2 m/c 8/03 & 11/03 EDD ?
Nixie #1 Morgan 09/04/03 ^i^ #2 due Oct 2004
Raquel DD 4, TTC #2 July 2003, 1 M/C 3rd PG, Bub Due 08/04
Rochelle 10th pregnancy (due 2/8/04), DD age 4, DS 20 mths, 7 m/c
Sandy
Shelly 4th pregnancy and expecting 1st baby on the 19th of august
Sherryn DS 09/01 - m/c 11/03 - EDD 10/04
Susan 6th preg DS 26/4/2001 No 2 EDD 19/9/2004 4 M/C's

BabyDancing Beauties:


Alison TTC#2 DS Evan David(stillborn 17/5/01) 3m/c’s
Allie TTC since Jan last year. Two m/c @ 10 and 6 weeks
Angel TTC #3 Since SEPT '03 M/C- FEB '04
Bugsy TTC#1 for 19 mths 1m/c
Cook
Dan DD-8 M/C-Jan 98 DS-5 M/C July 2003 TTC#3 13 mths
Doots TTC#1 since Sept 03, m/c's Dec 03 & March 04
Fay TTC #2(for DP) #7(for me) since 6/02, TTC for 20 mths. m/c 7/03
Jeanette Adopting 04 Vietnam. DD #1 Alexa Nadia stillborn 3/03, m/c ceci 02, m/c gumnut 04
Jill TTC #1 - 13 months, M/C 01/99, DD born 3/00, TTC #2 since 11/03, M/C in Feb 04
Kylie TTC#1 since 5/03 Endo Lap-5/03 2m/c's.
Leoni TTC#2 for 12 mths, 3m/c's
Lili Blighted Ovum 11/92, DS 11/93, DD 8/96, DS2 8/01, 2 m/c’s (10/03 & 2/04)
Lynn
Mergie TTC #2 since Sept "03, MC Nov "03 at 8 weeks
Michelle
Nett TTC #1 since Oct02, 15th cycle, 1 m/c
Nic TTC #1 since Oct '03, m/c 5/2/04
Rach
Rebecca DD 27mths, 1 m/c & TTC
Rowy TTC#2 Since 10/03, 3M/C (3/02, 10/03, 01/04) & suspected m/c 02/04
SandyR TTC#2. #1DD After 4 years TTC "Piper" born at 26 wks & died age 2 wks 1/04
Shelzy TTC#1 for 19 mths 1m/c

Location:

Vic:
Bugsy, Jeanette, Loretta, Boosy, Allie, Mergie, Alison

NSW:
Leoni, Lili, Lammy, Fay, Bec, Jill, Rebecca

Tas:
Nic,

QLD:
SandyR, Jesse, Keggsie, Nixie, Dan, Debbie, Shelly, Rowy, Shelzy

WA:
Kylie, Raquel

SA:
Nett,

NT:
Lucy,
********************

Bugsy (33) DH (38) m/c 8/03, ttc #1 7/02



"If I take 2 steps forward, then 1 step back, I am still heading in the right direction!"

This message was edited by Bugsy on Tuesday, 2 March 2004 @ 7:53 PM

Hi guys,

Sorry I haven’t been around much. Just haven’t felt much like posting, plus DH is complaining that the garden is messy because I spend so much time on here, so thought I should rectify that. I have been lurking however. Hope everyone is doing well.

Kylie – I am so glad that book extract struck a cord with you too. I feel like I might have actually helped another person – which is great. I have finished the book completely now and I can’t tell you how much it has helped me.

Doots – thanks for sharing your cycle with us. I was avidly scanning the post and trying to fit it to my cycle LOL. Heck if it helps I would print it out and stick it up on the wall! Thanks! BTW – sounds like you had an interesting childhood there!

Rowy – Good on you girl for making that appointment. I am sure you will feel so much better having started the ball rolling. Only +++ can come of it. Good luck with the tests and take care (and thanks for starting a new thread).

Leoni – hope you are having a ball with your visitors – take some time out to relax and enjoy!

Fay – I am so sorry to hear of the passing of your grandmother and of your great Aunt. I am sure even though you can’t be at the funeral they will feel your presence there anyway. hugs. Hope you are doing okay.

Angel – thanks hon for asking about me – I am doing okay – will explain after the few personals that I am doing. But thanks! hugs!

Allie – Well done on the weight loss! I lost 1.15kgs last week and was rapt. 4kgs would be better! Hehe hope your body sorts itself out soon too. Have fun at the conference. (just read your new post) – I think you should test. Just to be sure. It could be just your body teasing you, but if you are pg, you want to know asap so you can stop taking that other stuff. Good luck.

Doots – hey you are welcome to come and clean here – my place is a pigsty at the moment and we have visitors next weekend – gotta do this post and then get seriously stuck into cleaning.

Bec – sorry the scan didn’t show what you really wanted to see, but please don’t give up hope - you know it was probably too early – as it is touch and go what you can see at 6 weeks even. My 5 weeks scan with my last pg showed just a sac and the OB told me that next time the bub would be waving at us, and sure as eggs, he was right. Hang in there hon. Think positive thoughts.

OK – so I have finished the book and I think I am a changed person because of it – and am quite shocked that one book can affect me so much – so much so that I am thinking of trying to contact the author to tell her.

It was, in so many ways, like reading my own brain - all the feelings I have had, she put into words. It was incredible. I have read a few miscarriage books, but most were from doctors telling you clinically why it happened, stats etc. This was someone who was not a doctor or anything but was just talking from experience. And it had a happy ending (a beautiful little girl). In the book she not only talked about her feelings but also tried to understand what her DH was going through and what it meant for them both.

I closed the cover on the book – went and hugged DH and said “I am going to have a baby. Not right now, maybe not this year, but it WILL happen. I also vow not to destroy our relationship along the way!”

I am feeling very positive about it – It is going to happen. Maybe not for a long time, maybe I will get some more setbacks along the way, but like I say in my sig – If I take two steps forward and one step back, I am still heading in the right direction.

So I feel great today. Yesterday we went to DH’s godmother’s 60th birthday party and I was really nervous as a lot of the people there have been a big part of DH’s life (this huge bunch of people were all friends in primary school together including MIL and the birthday girl). I was meeting them for the first time and I was a bit scared that they wouldn’t like me.

I needn’t have worried – MIL was gorgeous and was telling everyone how wonderful I was and what a lovely DIL and how well I cook etc. I have really grown to love my MIL – I am so thankful for that, not having my own Mum around. She is really quite a doll.

Anyway, I did the good DIL things and when everyone had finished eating I volunteered to clean up the table and help out with the big cleanup. At the end of the day as each of the birthday girls friends left, I found they were coming up and wanting to say goodbye to me and give me a hug as well. I was really touched. Especially when one lady took both my hands in hers and told me how wonderful it was to meet me. Very sweet! I think MIL was quite chuffed too.

I did get sad seeing all the kids running around and thinking “I should have been 8 mths pg now!” but I got over that wave of grief and have come out stronger in the end.

I know now that I will get there. I just have to be patient (not one of my strong points).

Okay – I should go now and start the big cleanup. Take care all. My love to you all.


Bugsy (33) DH (38) m/c 8/03, ttc #1 7/02



"If I take 2 steps forward, then 1 step back, I am still heading in the right direction!"

Morning all,

Allie - From someone who has gone to Nats for over 10 years, I reckon if you have any doubts at all you should stop taking your stuff till proven otherwise. It won't hurt if you stop it for a few days, but could if you keep taking it. Likewise, on fertility friend website if gives good stats for when you can expect to get a BFP, and most get it around the day AF is due so chances are you should get some indication now. Best of luck there girl!

Bec- Bummer about the scan, how are your HCG levels??? I am getting more worried about mine being viable now too, I am spotting quike heavily today, have cramps and don't seem to have as many symptons (but its a bit like when you see a BFP and your symptons increase too). I thought I might go and get mine checked but it is a public holiday tomorrow so I would need to go to the hospital today...still thinking what I should do here.

Bugsy - We all notice when you are not around and as someone else said, you are like the glue around here. Wish you would look in the mirror and see the beautiful person we all see girl!!! Yeah my childhood had its ups and downs, but show me someone who had a white picket fence and apple pie upbringing and I will show you someone who sees an american soap when they look in the mirror. Its so good you could relate to that book, it really helps when the clicks happen.


Well, I am finding it a bit harder to be positive today, not sure at all now that this one will stick, I am obviously supposed to be learning about patience right now!

Cheers

Doots

Hi Girls,
Short post from me today, I am in agony. Yep, after some staining that started on Wed, nothing on Thursday, nor Friday, bloody AF has decided to arrive full guns blazing early yesterday morning. She’s being a real b#tch and killing me slowly, ouch…ouch…OUCH! Lesson #2: 5 BD’s does not = 1 BFP grrrrrrrrrr
Bugsy: Sound like your book was wonderful, I haven’t read mine since last Monday as I’ve had to time. Great to see you so positive girl, as soon as this pain eases I’ll join you on the “positive” chant, ouch…ouch…..
Allie: I’d stop taking the medicine too hun, just incase, maybe you’ll get a BFP?
Doots: Big {{hugs}} to you hun, I know how apprehensive you must be feeling about this PG, but stay positive OK, it’s your turn for some happiness now. Sending you heaps of sticky vibes…….
Angel: I’ve heard about the cervix thingy, but never tried it before, I say when in doubt BD just in case.
Bec: Sorry to hear you are stressing hun, when’s your next U/S for?
Nett: Hope you enjoyed the BBQ and the bowling LOL
Boosy: Sounds like your symptoms are right on track, hope the M/S keeps you on your toes till the 12 week mark. Always comforting to have symptoms huh.
Dan: Blasted OPK’s, I hate them, they can be soooo confusing huh?
Fay: Sorry to hear about your grandmother and great aunt passing away hun, are you doing OK?
Rowy: When are the results back from your tests? Good for you for having done some tests, I did them too and they made me feel a lot calmer knowing my body’s OK.
Kylie: How are you doing hun, dressed up any dogs in undies lately? LOL

Well my visitors have left, I woke up at 3.30am this morning coz of the stupid AF cramps and couldn’t go back to sleep, then my alarm went off at 5am as I had to drop the visitors off at 7am (at the airport). Was feeling really down again last night, and very weepy, Like Bugsy I also was thinking I should be due in 1.5 weeks time or atleast almost 17 weeks PG with the twins, instead I have f&%$en AF bugging me again, not happy Jan!!! Anyway, sorry to be a winge, I am going to go and hug a hot water bottle now and scoff down some maltesers………Big hello to you all and talk to you soon,
Cheers,
Leoni


Leoni(31), DH(40), DD(3.5)
M/C May03, 5 weeks
M/C Aug03, 10 weeks
M/C Jan04, Jamie & Ashton 12 weeks

Looks like I need to get a life too as I'm back here again

We didn't go out last night, DH came home feeling really sick, he thinks it was some ham he had for lunch (which was probably off but he ate it anyway - typical man) He's still feeling a bit yuk today so we're having a boring day at home.

Leoni - What a b%tch AF is. Sounds just like my AF this last time, spotting on Wed, nothing Thurs & Fri & then whammo on Saturday & really painful too. It really sux. IKWYM about the 5 BD's = sweet FA, we managed 7 last month & still a BFN.

Doots - sending hugs & sticky baby vibes. I know it must be hard but try to stay positive, this is going to be the one

Bugsy - wow that book must have been a really good read. [img]http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/travesmilies/smilie_zeitung.gif[/img] It's amazing how 1 book can make us think differently. I know I read a good book about pain management & it has made heaps of difference to my back pain. What was the name of the book again? I'm thinking I should get a copy of it. I'm glad to hear you had such a great time at the party It's nice to feel special & included isn't it.

Allie - I think you should test, it doesn't sound like it would be too soon. All the best. I would stop taking the tablets just in case.

Bec - bummer about the scan. You would have been feeling worse though if you didn't get it done & just left wondering.

Angel - the pic's are fun aren't they. Nothing wrong with BD just in case. [img]http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/liebe/love-smiley-076.gif[/img]

Counting down the days until my lap. & there's only 12 days to go! Have to go for a pre-anaesthetic check again on Thursday because it's a different Dr doing the GA, bummer because I like the other one & knows more about my history.

I hope I get some answers so we can be one step closer to a bubba [img]http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/liebe/love-smiley-073.gif[/img]

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m/c Nov 03 5wks
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This message was edited by Mrs_Stevo on Sunday, 29 February 2004 @ 3:43 PM

Hi All,

Well just got back from the hospital where the doctor nicely told me to "prepare for a m/c" - don't we all love that phrase. So have sent DH out for a dozen bottles of decent red wine, pate, smoked salmon etc to have on standby just in case (i'm not sure if this is what the Dr meant but it will work best for me). Havn't got results of HSG levels back yet, will have to wait till at least tuesday so still could be ok but Dr said that cos of bleeding & cramps so early (5.5wks) m/c was most likely outcome. As DH said, it is the Drs job to prepare you for the worst case outcome too. Actually feel better than this morning for some strange reason although still do not think outcome may be what we would like.

Thanks for all the hugs and sticky vibes, the mean a lot. I am off to watch 4 romantic comedys in a row (poor DH will have to sit through them - the ultimate sacrifice). Will be ok till results come back now, then will see.

Cheers

Doots

Hi Doots,
WTF?????? You poor chook, I can't believe the dr said that to you. I know he's gotta prepare you for the worst case scenario, but $hit, what ever happened to "stay positive, keep your chin up, it ain't over till the fat lady sings" line? I know it's hard hun, but please try and stay positive, look at Sandy (prego Sandy), she had heaps of cramps + a huge scare when she bled heaps and her baby is growing along fine. (Hi Sandy, if you are reading this, just want to use you as an example. ) Come on gals, I think Doots needs a A huge GROUP {{HUG}}!!! Will be thinking of you hun, sending heaps of positive vibes your way.
Cheers,
Leoni


Leoni(31), DH(40), DD(3.5)
M/C May03, 5 weeks
M/C Aug03, 10 weeks
M/C Jan04, Jamie & Ashton 12 weeks

This message was edited by sister9 on Sunday, 29 February 2004 @ 5:47 PM

Oh Doots - darl - what can I say but please try and
stay calm. As I said, many people have spotting
and bleeding whilst PG and go on to have perfect
babies.
Remember that my gyno told me that my HCG
levels were a bit low and then my OB told me that
they were fine - some doctors are just plain
STUPID.
I have my fingers crossed for you.

Boosy

Doots - hang in there. I'm with Leoni, I know Dr have to prepare you, but it isn't over until it's over. He should have been a little more positive. But I guess having the vino, salmon and romantic movies around won't hurt. I'll be thinking about you.

Nett- the 12 days will be up before you know it.

Hey Leoni - I'm still waiting for my AF to show. Of course I know mine will also be painful, and I'll be at work. Bloody typical. Why can't she just p&*^ off. :mad: Hope your feeling better go though hon. I know how you feel though, my first due date is 4 weeks away. Bring on the red wine I say.

Bugsy - sounds like you had a great night. Out-laws and co can be daunting sometimes. My out-law family is huge and it can get a little overwhelming playing the good daughter in law. But it sounds as though you have a fantastic relationship with your MIL.

I didn't take my tabs this morning, and I wont until AF arrives. I did some reading and chaste tree can lengthen your lateul phase, though it did mention that any benefits from it can take months, and I've only been on it 7 days. Well, I guess I'll have to wait. I am going away tonight, so I can't test until Wednesday, but I expect the witch to have visited by them. Patience is a virtue.



Allie (27)
DH (29)
M/C: August '03
M/C: January '04
TTC: Jan '03

oh Doots some Dr's just have no beside manner, I agree with Leoni - what happened to stay positive it's not over yet etc. Sending LOTS of sticky baby vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~

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[color=maroon][SIZE=2]TTC#1 since Oct 02
m/c Nov 03 5wks
[color=orange]DCats Patsy & Tish

Doots,

Pleeeeease try to stay positive...We are all here for you should you need us. {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}. Hang in there.

Luv Angel -x-x-x-


Angel -x-x-x-

DS: 1993
DS: 1995
M/C: Feb '04

Hi all,
(((hugs))) Doots. Just remember its not over until the fat lady sings and as you are still getting M/S I would say that was a very positive sign that things are still growing. Keep your chin up and remember that Doctors are human and all humans make mistakes, and some are just lousy with thier bedside manner.
thanks for all your good wishes everyone. mum and I had a long chat about it all yesterday morning andit helped us both. We all had a great time away but the traffic comming past Kiama was ridiculous. Bumper to bumper. We tried the trip through Jamberro but it still took us 5 min to travel the 500m from the highway to the turnoff as quite a few people had the same idea. The kids fed the chickens and we all went swimming in Swan Lake. MIL and FIL to be are great with the kids and treat them the same as thier real grandkids. I think the biggest shock was DP's brother. He was the biggest pot head on earth, but ever since he started going out with thier step mothers daughter he has changed. he used to ignore everyone but once he started renewing his relationship (they used to go out when they were 16 and 18 but his real mother put a stop to it) he started to become more human. His girlfriend put her foot down the other day and told him that he has to choose between her and the drugs as she wants someone who is there to support her. she has gone to stay with her older sister for a few weeks and he has been up most days to see her and stayed away from the pot. he was fantastic with my 2 youngest today. he showed them how to feed the canaries and the chickens, showed them where there was a frog colony and was telling them about the different plants in the garden.
Got a question for mucus watchers. TMI warning. Every month about this time I get the EWCM but this month there was some pink bloodlike staining in the mucus. What does this mean? I'm also confused as to why I get the EWCM at around CD13 when I have a 32 day cycle. I thought that with a cycle of this lenght that I would be O'g at about Day 17. BD wise it doesn't matter as we are at it like rabbits, but I am really trying to understand what my body is telling me.
Going to check out the web site that Doots mentioned
good luck all
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Hi all,

I promised to pop back in here once I had finally written up my birth story, so here I am!

For those of you I don't know, I was one of the original Biting the Bullet chicks, way back when this thread was very first started. DH and I had been TTC for over 2 years and had a botched laparoscapy followed by a missed miscarriage at 12 weeks, so by the time I felt emotionally up for TTC again, Biting the Bullet was a great source of encouragement!

So, I just wanted to pop in and let you all know to KEEP BITING THAT BULLET!! Keep your hopes and dreams alive, because it can and will happen! Stay positive and believe that it will, because the hope is far better & healthier than the fear.

I have posted my birth story at http://www.essentialbaby.com/CFForum/viewm...=16&Topic=58209.

My pregnancy after my miscarriage was terrifying as well as eternally hopeful, and now as I look at my baby Olivia who is so perfect, all of the difficulties are so worth it.

Love to all,

Lucy

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EDD 17th February 2004
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Lucy - Lovely to see you alive and well - having faced the challenge of birth and coming out the victor! Thank you so much for the encouragement. You know the battle we all face and how difficult it can be at times to continue. You are exactly what I need - a postive story. Oh how I want to look into my own daughters face and know that I too battled the babygods and won. Please let it be soon (my patience is wearing thin).

Doots - I hope you are okay hon. The others are right - your DR - although I can understand him telling you to prepare for the worst, he could have also thrown in how lots of women cramp and spot at this stage and still go on to have a healthy pregnancy. You are having a "threatened M/C" and all the stats are in your favor there. I do hope it settles down and that everything goes okay. I am joining the others in that group hug. You know we are all here for you hon - no matter what the outcome!

Fay - I have heard that spotting in CM can either be a good sign of Oing (bleeding as the egg breaks out), or a sign of a UTI - my advice - cover both, BD heaps and drink lots of cranberry juice incase it is the latter. Good luck hon.

Allie - good luck to you too - enjoy your break and I hope there is a strong BFP waiting for you when you return (and not nasty old AF).

That is about all I have time for this morning - work is busy (AGAIN!) - came in this morning to find servers down and people irate - so have spent most of this morning trying to get things back on track.

I have started getting EWCM already - so thought that maybe I was Oing ultra early (normally I O on CD17), so DH and I bded last night. I realised then that I am not Oing yet. This is probably TMI but I find that if I bd not around O time it hurts a bit. I think it has something to do with the cervix being in the wrong position or something, because at O time it doesn't hurt at all. We will keep bding just in case.

Friday was a bad day for us - started badly when I went to go to work and noticed water seeping out under the fishroom door (where our 40 odd breeding tanks are) and on investigation discovered that our 4ft fish tank had spontaneously cracked in two places and was minus all it's water. Unfortunately only the catfish survived. So we lost about $400 worth of fish and tank all one go including a beautiful pair of Chocolate cichlids (who had great personalities too). We did our best to save them, but unfortunately it wasn't enough. Then later I lost my gold bracelet that my MIL gave me - only good bit to that story is a work colleague found it for me - phew.

I'd better go and get some work done - hope everyone is okay.

Bugsy (33) DH (38) m/c 8/03, ttc #1 7/02



"If I take 2 steps forward, then 1 step back, I am still heading in the right direction!"

This message was edited by Bugsy on Monday, 1 March 2004 @ 11:21 AM

Big hugs for you Doots I pray and hope all is well and you get through this you can't have better support that here but I know we all wish we were there to give you a hug in person.
I haven't had any spotting or bleeding at all this pregnancy but it still hasn't stopped me being scared out of my mind.
Love Susan

Morning Gals...

Doots..For what it's worth. I had bright red bleeding and cramps with my first pregnancy for 2 week's ( I was 7 week's)..they also told me to expect the worst but I now have a healthy beautiful 8 year old...sometimes those little bubbas just stick not matter what...thinking of you...

Angel...They do say that one sided pain around the middle of your cycle can be a sign of ovulation.I normally only get it on the right side and it kind of feels a little like tugging...if that makes sence.

Elle...Congraulations on your baby girl.You give us all hope.Enjoy Enjoy..they grow up overnight ..

Rowy...Have you seen the Dr yet?. Let us know how you went when you get the chance.

Leoni...Hope you are feeling better girl...you poor bugger...there is nothing worse....

Nett...12 more day's....and 1 more step closer to a bubba...

Hi to all the rest of you BTB gal's...I am off to get some sleep as I have to work tonight. I am on CD 13 and using those 2dollar tests....I think maybe I saw a really faint line yesterday...I Dunno....I will test again today but if it's negative I am thinking this cycle is bust as well...surley LH would be picked up by now....
Last night the sweetest RN said to me 5 minutes before my shift finished..
" Danielle go home and make beautiful babies.."..
I just about lost the plot there and then..what a sweet thing to say... probably the nicest thing I have heard since the M/C..
Well...I am off to add another OPK to the great wall of China...I reckon I am half way there...DAMN IT !!!

Me-30, DH-30, DD-8, DS-4.
2 Angel stars..

Hi lovely ladies,
Doots - thinking of you babe, I wish I could make it all better for you..... and I hope you can feel all the hugs we have for you. Good idea about the vino and the romantic comedies, there's nothing like a good Meg Ryan when you're down in the dumps...

Danielle - Isn't it nice when someone says something kind that really touches your heart? It makes you feel so much more positive just to know someone cares.

Bugsy - That certainly was the definition of a bad day! At least you had one thing going your way with getting your bracelet back. Are your fish and tanks covered by insurance? I know it won't cover the emotional loss of your little pets, but if you're covered financially I guess it would be one less worry?

Lucy - your birth story was lovely. May we all experience that joy (again for some!) and sooner rather than later! Congratulations you clever girl, And thanks for the inspiration!!!

Fay - Sounds like you had a nice time. It's great to get away occasionally, I find it clears the cobwebs (and boy do I need them cleared every now and then.)

Nett - hope your poor DH is feeling better. Not long to go now hon, till you get some answers...

Allie - I would test, but then I am one of the most impatient people I know. Either way I reckon it's best to know if you think you'd get a genuine result one way or the other.

As for me I think AF has turned up! It's been 26 days since the D&C so that's pretty much on time, a couple of days early. But I'm happy to have her back this time, cause it means my body's getting back to normal. I hope she doesn't get really painful. At the moment she's not. Leoni was your first AF painful after each m/c or just this one? Anyway better dash, I have to start cooking tea, Monday nights is DD's piano lesson, so I don't get home from town until about 7pm, which means that I usually do something in the slow cooker so that DH only has to cook up some rice and turn some veges on.


Love & luck,
Lili

Darling Kids ~ DS1 (10),
DD (7), DS2 (2).

This message was edited by lili on Tuesday, 2 March 2004 @ 10:32 AM

Hi Ladies,

Well I have some good news

I am PREGNANT!!! only just, lol. I am figuring that I'm about 4 weeks 3 days along. I had a confirmation Bloodtest on friday & the HCG level was 24....Just got back from having another bloodtest today & I'll also be having another one on friday. I will be also having a scan next thursday the 11th March to check if this bubby is stuck in the right spot since I have had 2 ectopics, my risk is high.....so fingers crossed there.

I was told with my CD21 bloodtest that I hadn't ovulated & to expect AF to arrive......but obviously I have O'd late.....so I wasn't expecting this at all.

Well not much else is happening.....I won't leave you guys yet,as it is still early days.

Talk soon.

from Jesse (22)

DH Kev (24)
TTC #1 since Nov 2001
Diagnosed with PCOS
Metformin 1000mg
First cycle of Clomid 50mg Ectopic Pregnancy 9th May 2003 @ 7 weeks
Second cycle of clomid 75mg another Ectopic 26th August 2003 @ 4.5 weeks

Hello all,

I have now been reading to catch up for about an hour. My god I must keep up.

Congrats to the pg's announced.

Doots- I also spotted with all my pg's and even already have this one. Please try to stay positive and know that bleeding does not nessessarily mean M/C.

I'm 9 weeks 2 days today and I'm feeling much better. My M/S has seemed to have subsided. Funny hey considering it didn't go untill 16 weeks with Bri and 23 with Alanna. I have been feeling like this for about a week now so positive thoughts. I'm still so tired and my breasts are so sore and if I don't eat regulary I start to feel queasy but I can deal with that.

It's my eldest Brianna's birthday today. She was born at 3.35pm so 2 years ago to the moment I was holding my firstborn for the first time. I'm a bit sooky and emotional today.

Rowy- Well done on taking the step to see the doc. It's a hard one but hopefully something can be done to help.

Well good luck to all of you.

Love.

Loretta(28) Chris(29)
M/C March 01
DD Brianna Anne 01/03/02
DD Alanna Caitlyn 16/07/03
M/C Dec 03
EDD Oct 04


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Real quick post!

Jesse - Whoo Hoo - huge congrats!!!!!!!

Happy 2nd Birthday Brianna!!!!!! Smooch - big kisses!

Michelle4690 - yee haa - glad you are back - we even have a post about you in 12mths + forum - I was going to dig up your mobile number and call you.

take care guys - gotta run.


Bugsy (33) DH (38) m/c 8/03, ttc #1 7/02



"If I take 2 steps forward, then 1 step back, I am still heading in the right direction!"

Hi Everyone,

Just started spotting. Stupid AF! Looks like she is getting us all at once! Not sure how much more of this disappointment I can take. Remember how I wasn't so sure about O day and Fertility Friend was jumping from one week to the next.....it must have been the first little temp rise where I Oed. Day 24 not day 33 as it had been all the cycles since m/c. Thank you to those girls that had a look at my chart last week. I suppose it is good that my cycle is getting shorter. It must have been the pregnancy drops that helped me O earlier. Who knows when my stupid body will O next time. Probably it'll throw in a cd3 O or something. Aaggghhhhhhhhhh! And Leoni...you let us all know that 5 BD's does not = 1 BFP. Well I can now add this lesson - 15 BD's doesn't either!!!

Michelle - Welcome back..we've all missed you!

Loretta - Glad to see everything is going well with you and your little bean.

Jesse - Congratulations

Danielle - I hope you did go home and make a beautiful baby....but I'd settle for an ugly one the way i'm going LOL

Bugsy - Sorry to hear about your fish. What a bummer! At least you got your bracelet back though.

Doots - Thinking of you at this scary time.....I hope everthing turns out just fine. (((hugs)))

Lucy - Thanks for posting your birth story...I will be sure to have a read of it later.

Catch you all later girls.



Shelzy (25) DH (32)
m/c August 03 TTC#1-July 02

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Bec: That's wonderful news....I'm sending lots of STICKY dust for you. Oh wow!!! My heart is doing flip flops for you

I'll try to pop back in later to do personals...


Angel -x-x-x-

DS: 1993
DS: 1995
M/C: Feb '04

evening ladies!

Have finally found time to drop by...have pretty much had my head down the toilet for the past week...whoever said m/s eases at 12 weeks was a big fat liar!!! Mine has just got worse!

As you can see I have finally made the big 12 weeks Whoo Hooo! Will finally see my OB for the first time on Wednesday so am still keeping mum till then. I just want to make sure everythign is all right!!!!

CONGRATS to JLC....excellent news - I know you will be counting down the days till your scan to make sure bub is where it s meant to be....wishing you all the patience in the world!!!

Bec - How exciting for you....you must be thrilled!!!

Leoni - am finally off to the post office tomorrow to send that book to you - sorry it has taken so long!!!

Bugsy - hugs hun ... Keep your chin up and persevere I just know you will get there soon. I have a special spot here on the couch for you ( using my big fat bum to keep it warm!)

Well I need to go again ....porcelain bus is calling

hugs
Lammy

Me 28 DH 32
TTC#1 Sep02
M/C Sep 03
Finally A BFP!!! EDD SEP 11
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Hi All,

Thanks so much for all the hugs, thoughts and examples of people who have had positive outcomes from a similar situation to mine. They really helped me to feel better.

I don't mind the way the doctor spoke to me yesterday, he tried his best and I know where he was coming from. Just as well we are a well educated bunch on these matters and can fill in the blanks for each other at times like this!

I think that some of my symptons are not as strong as they were a few days ago, esp m/s and tiredness, but still only have brown bleeding although cramps are reasonabliy strong. I still think odds are not brilliant of a good outcome, but thanks to your support I do think now there is still a chance it could be ok too. Put it this way, havn't cracked the vino etc yet and will not until definate news (bad that is of course!).

For me my first m/c was a huge shock, we had the no go scan two days before xmas, and was then told everyone was on holiday so could not have a d/c till really after the new year ( I am allergic to some common anthesthetics so need backup medical staff), also had heaps of problesms finding just a Dr to see me or book a scan. With everyone so happy over that time, I did a huge why me thing and so much grieving then I also faced that maybe we would never have kids etc then too. Sounds a bit paranoid, but gets the worse over first off at least, and it also means this time around I am able to cope much better with whatever outcome - even if this ends in m/c too there is still no reason why can't have success next time around. We are also very fortuntate in that at least getting pregnant is not a problem for us, which is a huge leg up compared to many other people. So as with all good leap year days, I am erasing yesterday and actually feeling pretty tranquil and relaxed today.

Bec - that is such great news, huge congrats and very weird with DH guessing

Lucy - Congratulations and thanks for sharing your birth story with us, definately helps me keep focussed on that end goal right now!

Jesse - CONGRATULATIONS - may you have a very boring next 8 months there!

Well I'm off to oommmm in the garden, actually was doing that this afternoon in our hammock under a gum tree when a large branch came down right beside me. Not sure how I was supposed to take that, I think it will be what a lucky miss!.

Thanks again all,

Cheers

Doots

Hi all

Lammy - yukko about the m/s getting worse, but yay for passing 12 weeks!

Bec - wow how exciting! good luck for the scan in 2 weeks, I'm sure we'll all be dying to find out if it's twins or just 1 bubba.

Shelzy - bugger, bugger, bugger. not fair. If 15 BD's still doesn't = BFP then I might as well give up! 7 was the best for us so far. Sounds like CD24 was O, that's what I thought when I read your chart, not that it makes you feel any better, at least it's a good sign to O sooner, are you going to keep taking the preg. drops? It would be interesting to see what happens.

Bugsy - on no, what a bummer about the fish

Michelle - welcome back hope th rest of the results bring good news.

Loretta - good to see you're still going strong & the m/s is subsiding.

Jesse - CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Yay keep those BFP's rolling in

Lili - AF showing up sounds like a good sign your body is getting back to normal.

Dani - how sweet, hope you took her advice & went home for some beautiful baby making

Lucy - congratulations on the birth of your baby Olivia Thanks for sharing your story with us, it gives us hope that it can happen.

Fay - not sure about the CM, I've had it happen once but that's all. LMAO @ the 'we're at it like rabbits' comment

Leoni - remember how you said about your DH being more in the mood because you weren't actually trying, well mine is driving me mad! He talks about it constantly & can't leave me alone - typical just when I don't want to be BD! I've told him he better hold those thoughts for another couple of weeks

11 sleeps to go ...



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[color=maroon][SIZE=2]TTC#1 since Oct 02
m/c Nov 03 5wks
[color=orange]DCats Patsy & Tish

Hi guys,
Quick post, I am off to mother's group this morning + still have some work to do before that.
Jesse: huge CONGRATS to you girl!!!! I am very happy for you hun, woooooo hoooooooooo!
Bec: Now I am dying to find out if you are carrying twins again, wow! Does twins run in your family? It runs in mine.
Doots: Well done for feeling calm, I am still thinking positive thought for you hun.
Lammy: Sorry about the m/s, geez getting worse, you poor chook. KWYM about being busy, don't stress about sending the book to me, I've been flatchat too.
Bugsy: Holy cr@p, how did your fish tank crack? Poor fish!
Nett: Reverese psycology, isn't it wonderful? Maybe you should tell your DH you can't BD after your Lap for a long time (so he really gets in the mood) and then just say OK at "O" time LOL
Shelzy: $hit!!!!!!! 15 BD's, and I thought 5 was good! You poor thing, bloody "O" time, wish it could just be the same day all the time, it would make it easier on the BD front huh.

Well AF is almost finished for me, yippeee, pain is gone, double yippeeeeeeee. Had an awful nightmare last night. Kept seeing my "accidentally PG friend" very PG while I had a flat tummy and I am trying to confince her I am 17 weeks with twins! Go away nightmares, I don't need you right now! grrrrrrrrr.
OK gotta run, washing also needs to be hung...
Cheers,
Leoni


Leoni(31), DH(40), DD(3.5)
M/C May03, 5 weeks
M/C Aug03, 10 weeks
M/C Jan04, Jamie & Ashton 12 weeks

Hi all,
This will be just a quick one from me today. Hope you're all doing well, and Doots, I have my fingers crossed for you. I'm in for the ((((((((group hug))))))). I'll be checking in to see how things progress.

I'm doing ok. Things are starting to hit home now and instead of being numb as I have been, I'm starting to feel angry! I was in a terrible mood on the weekend, so I spent some time alone and went to a nursery just to wander around the plants. I'm lucky I forgot my wallet or I would've shopped up a storm as well, lol. I'm glad though that I'm starting to feel something, because I was beginning to wonder if I would ever grieve for my angel baby.

Anyway, Kalani is demanding my attention, and I'd better post this before I get logged out.

I'll do personals another time

Take care

Rach

dd~ Tiarna 18/9/98
dd~ Kalani 30/4/03
angel baby (6wks)13.2.04

Hi all
Thought it was about time I stuck my head up and said hi too. I have morning sickness back....

It common for me at the end of pregnancy and although i should be use to it, I aint...LOL...Oh and to top it off its running from the other end also....SOrry TMI. Bum on toilet, head in bucket. Great look....LOL

Well scan went ok. Thanks for asking Michelle (and welcome back you have been missed). Bubs is still behind for dates but is growing in proportion to th e last scan which is a good thing. They have estimated a born at weight (if I go on time) of about 7 lbs. With Breanna they estimated mid 6 lbs and she was only mid 5 lbs so I guess I can expect a bub between probably 6-71/2 lbs....LOL....All other tests that were done have come back boderline. Too many tests to list individually. Anyway basically its not bad enough to warrant induction just yet but enough to want careful monitoring done (which I have been having doen anyway)

The only tests I did well on were my Folate and B12 vits....Thank goodness for that.

WE have been trying some gentle natural induction methods the last few days. Not so much to bring baby on yet but to prepare and get cervix ready. Well Saturday after we BD'ed I got contractions for some time and quite good ones I must say. Sunday when we BD'ed I got them before we even finished and lasted some time again. (Oh and each time we use lots of nipple stimulation to get the hormones going) Then last night we BD'ed again (DP thinks Xmas has come early 3 in a row LOL) and nothing. Not even the slightest twinge. Not sure what to make of that. BUT since then I have been losing thick mucous. Again not sure if its little amounts of the mucous plug or what. Its not like EWCM that is very common in late pregnancy. So I am off to the toilet every 20 minutes to investiagate hoping and praying for a sign....LOL....I would love to have this baby and of been out of hospital long enough to recover and set up a routine before DS and DD birthdays which are 27th and 29th March. But if this pg continues at this level they will not be inducing until 10 days over which will be the 21st...ARggggggg

Ok enough rambling.

Bugsy.....So sorry to hear about your fish and tank. Are you going to be able to replace it? I know how much you love your animals.

Rach.....Everyone deals with emotions in different ways. I too was a lot like you and it took me some time to fully grieve. I wasnt ready to except what happened (I honestly thought that could never happen to me) and it wasnt until I checked into reality that I realised it did and could then begin to grieve. Just take it one day at a time. You may stumble over hurdles occassionally but you will get there in the end.

Michelle...I cant wait to hear your results. I hope you get some answers and I also hope that they do find a problem but an easily fixed problem cause at least then it will explain a lot of things. I mean that in a nice way just couldnt phrase it very well at the moment. I hope you get what I am saying?

Leoni....hugs hun...Those nightmares are Bullcrap....How dare they. Like a miscarrage isnt enough.....dream fairies need a bullet I think.
Have you tried playing some of you favourite music quietly while drifting off to sleep. I find that it helps keep nightmares and vivid dreams away.

Nett....Good luck with the up coming Lap.

Doots....How you holding up chook?

Lammy.....Hey they lie about a lot of things.....LOL.....But its all good at the same time hey?

Bec....Oh how exciting.....Cant wait to hear the news. Come on 2WW.

Shelzy.....So sorry that AF showed her ugly mug. But it does seem good that you appear to be o'ing earlier. From what I can gather thats good to be a good thing isnt it?

Loretta....Glad to hear you are starting to feel human again...LOL...Hope your DD had a lovely B'day

Jesse....Congratulations.....Hope this bub is stuck in the right places for you. Let us know how you are going.

Lili...so good to hear from you. always good to hear of someone being happy to see AF for once. So glad she returned and didnt leave you waiting for ages like she does to some.

Danielle....Hows the testing going...Any more lines yet...hopefully nice strong ones.
????

Ok sorry to all those I have run out of time to reply too. My washing machine just finished. Had the urge to wash all the babies things again....LOL....

Me(28) DP(32) DD(10) DS(7) DD(6) DD(1) M/C 03
COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN
due 11/03/04

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Well, I'm not sure what's going on, AF hasn't shown up yet, just that one spot yesterday. How confusing, I never get spotting before AF, although they do say that your cycle changes with each baby or m/c don't they. Do you reckon it's just that? Now I'm hoping she does turn up soon, so I know what's going on (you won't hear that around here often!).
Jesse - Congratulations!!
Bec - Congratulations!! Congratulations!! heehee.
I'm so pleased for you both and I'll be thinking of you over the next few weeks as you have your scans etc.
Rach - sometimes it takes a while to sink in doesn't it. It's such an awful thing to go through that I think a lot of us think 'that couldn't have happened to me' so it takes a while to process it all. I think you hit the nail on the head in going to the plant nusery, sometimes I think that our souls lead us to where we need to be in times of trauma, and where better to regain your faith in mother nature than surrounded by beautiful plants?
I know that my garden has given me heaps of comfort lately (thanks Doots for leading me there!).
Michelle - great to hear from you girl!
Lammy - what a wonderful milestone, congratulations to you too, hope that bus gives you a rest soon!
Doots - good on you for being so calm. Don't know how relaxing my ommming would be if I was worried about branches landing on my head though! Hope you don't get to open that wine for a good 8 months!
Shelzy - maybe our cycles are synchronising! Just a thought!

Keggsie! - almost missed your post! Hey, I remember during one of my pregnancies reading that going into really deep squats everytime you pass a chair (holding onto the back of it) can sometimes set things off. But I think you have to do heaps of them.


Love & luck,
Lili

Darling Kids ~ DS1 (10),
DD (7), DS2 (2).

This message was edited by lili on Tuesday, 2 March 2004 @ 10:31 AM

Oh Bec - what wonderful news! I so hope you will have twins again! Most importantly I hope that you have a healthy baby or babies in 8 months time

Lucy - Congratulations, you must be so relieved to have your little bubs in your arms at last

Jesse - well done, have a great pregnancy!

Well, we head down to Melbourne tomorrow for my Ob appointment. Will get the results of the karyotype tests etc. I haven't had my AF since the m/c, though yesterday I had a migraine, cramps and spotting and it felt like i had AF, but that was all. Could that be AF?
We will stay in Melbourne, Wednesday night then Thursday we head off to Malaysia, then Cambodia to pick up our new baby boy Andrei Khean I'm so excited and have gone crazy buying gifts for him! I can't wait!! So I won't be back on EB for a few days, so i will talk to you all then.

Hope you are all feeling good,

Jeanette

Afternoon Ladies

I cannot believe how fast this thread travels!! I was reading #24 then #25, jotting down notes to respond and then by the time I get back to you we're up to #27, I've totally missed #26 so my personal's will be really out of date.

Last time I read I was really concerned for Bugsy, how are you Darl, you sound a lot better this thread which is great news. I agree with ??? (so rude I know, I just can't keep up) when you're not around it seems so strange so hang in there we're here for the long haul.

Doots: Congratulations, I'm so pleased for you. I can imagine your worry though. You sound heaps more positive, keep it up. I'm sending a bag full of sticky dust your way.

Evanda: asked me when my birthday was as she thought she was the oldest, well congrats Evanda you are!!! I turn 42 in August.

Jeanette: I have been reading your story and am so happy for you and your new son, I love the name you have chosen and wish you and your DH a safe trip and we'll catch up when you return with heaps of photo's!!

The story so far with me is I'm at CD10, just completed my Clomid yesterday. I'm charting on FF but my temps are up and down like the rockies!!, my CM suggests it may be fertile (watery) but I'm not really sure. I've got the green light on FF. Anyway my OB said to BD every second day from day 10 to day 20. I'm having constant pains from my ovaries (hope this means heaps of follicles are brewing) So you know what DH and I are going to be up to for the next 10 days don't you? I have a BT for CD21 to check if I've O'd and another BT for CD35 if AF doesn't arrive. Last time I was on Clomid my BT showed I didn't ovulate at all but fell pg!! go figure.

I recognise most of your names and posts but don't get much of a chance to post personals but I'll try my best.

Congrat's to all the BFP's and to Lucy on the birth of Olivia.

To all of the Baby Dancing Beauties I'm sending a huge group hug and hope you're are all hanging in there. We really can draw strength from each other which I'm sure is helping all of us heaps. The simple thought of seeing my name in the Bun Baking section gives me strength when I'm feeling a bit low.



The above smilie's were my attempt to insert, they were meant to go in 2 other places so as you can see I'm a real pro (not??)

PS I also wanted to thank Bugsy for the list she has going, it's fantastic. I'm going to print it off so I can keep up with "who's who in the zoo"

I'll pop in again soon and catch up.

Have a great day!!!!!!!!

ME 41
DH 41
DS born 23/11/02
M/C 24/11/03 8 weeks

Just quickly catching up on today's posts & only have time for quick one -

Jeanette - wishing all the best with meeting & bringing home your new son I think we'd all be busy buying lots of presents too! Hope it all goes well. I'm so happy for you.

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[color=maroon]Nett & Mark
[color=maroon][SIZE=2]TTC#1 since Oct 02
m/c Nov 03 5wks
[color=orange]DCats Patsy & Tish

Afternoon girls

JESSIE - CONGRATULATIONS - that is fantastic
news. My fingers are crossed for you that bubs is
resting in the right spot!
MERGIE - good luck with the Clomid - I'm a big fan
of course - it worked for me 1st time so I'm hoping
it'll do the same for you this time.
JEANETTE - that is so exciting that you are picking
up your baby boy this week - you must be just
ecstatic - hope it all goes well.
LILI - hope AF stays away from
you darl.
KEGGSIE - you must be getting toey! Try a light
beer and Chinese fried rice (home-made of
course) - that worked for me - 1 hour after having
that I went into labour!
RACH - I'm thinking of you - it does get better over
time I promise. Take it easy hun.
LEONI - glad to hear AF has gone - hope you're
getting ready for the BDfest. Have all of your
friends/rellies gone? Did you all have a good time?
MICHELLE - hope the wait for your bloodtests is
not too painful - I hope that they all come out rosy.
LORETTA - glad to hear the m/s has subsided and
that everything's going well.
DANIELLE - I'm hoping for a BFP for you this
month.
DOOTS - I hope that you hear some good news
soon. Hang in there sweetie.
LAMMY - nice to hear from you. Hope you've got
good cleaning products at your house!!!$$$ you
poor darl. Congratulations on making 12 weeks - I
am so happy for you - what a bloody great
milestone - way to go girl. Good luck on
Wednesday.
BEC - OMG - twins - how exciting - CONGRATS!! I
can't wait for more updates.
SHELZY - sorry that you have started spotting -
bloody old hag she is that AF.
BUGSY - sorry to hear about your poor fish - what a
disaster.
LUCY - glad to hear you're doing well - I have sent
you another post on the other thread with your
name on it.
FAY - can't help you with the bloodstained ECWM -
but don't think it sounds major - if you're worried
though you should ring your OB.
ALLIE - hope AF hasn't arrived yet. Let us know if yo
do a test.
ANGEL/SUSAN/NETT - hope you are doing OK.

As for me, I'm still PG - I think! I have my 2nd
bloodtest tomorrow to check my HCG levels. If that
all comes up OK then I will book into the OB. I am
still sh*tting myself over any niggle and check when
I wipe every day - what a long 7 weeks it's going to
be until I hit the 12 week mark.

Anyhow we need more BFP's so come on guys -
I'm sending positive vibes to you.

Boosy

Ola girls,
Just got back from Mother's Group, had heaps of fun. My PG friend didn't show up and I am feeling relieved. I know...I know...I am a bi$ch, but I just didn't want to face her today, all chirpy & 13 weeks PG (by accident of course grrrrr) Counted 3 preggie women at the indoor playground and of course plenty of little babies including a set of tiny twins right behind me, grrrrrrrr. Pi$$ off babygods, stop pestering me grrrrrrrrrrrr!
Jeanette: What wonderful news, you just keep on buying what you want hun, you deserve this!!! Have a great trip and come back safely with your new son.
Michelle: Hi sweets, great to see you back, we missed you. Hope your results come back positive, if there is something up with you, let it be something they can fix easily. (IYKWIM)
Dan: I think the lady at your work was nice telling you to go home and make beautiful babies. I hope you obeyed her orders LOL. Have you got any ++ results from the stupid OPK’s yet?
Boosy: Goodluck with your BT tomorrow, I am sure all will be fine, but IKWYM about $hitting yourself. Here’s sending you heaps of sticky dust………
Mergie: Geez that is a lot of BD-ing, but go for it hun. Our BD-fest is on again from next Monday, not really looking forward to it to be honest, can’t be bothered ATM.
Lili: What’s going on with AF, is she playing peek-a-boo with you ATM? If she is going to do a no show then the babygods better give you a BFP in return!!
Keggsie: OMG only 9 days to go, wow!!! I just realized you are due on my due date if I hadn’t m/c in Aug 03, just an observation, I am dreading next week though, have been thinking about my due date for the past 2 weeks. Hope all goes well with you and the BP behaves itself, come on baby, your mommy is ready for you……..
Rach: As the other girls mentioned, we all process our emotions at different times and on different levels, just take each day at a time, you’ll get there hun.
Loretta: Hope Brianna had a great b’day, you be as sooky as you want, I felt the same when my DD turned 1 and 2 yrs old. Glad to hear m/s is easing off for you.
Lucy: Once again congrats on the birth of your baby girl Olivia, I’ll go and read your birth story now……

Before I go just have to ask: Kylie….KYLIE….!!!!! are you OK hun? Haven’t seen a post from you girl, come talk to us hun. Also where’s SandyR, Sandy, Shelly, Gemma, Red???
Cheers,
Leoni



Leoni(31), DH(40), DD(3.5)
M/C May03, 5 weeks
M/C Aug03, 10 weeks
M/C Jan04, Jamie & Ashton 12 weeks

Hi All,

Went to the doctor today and did a scan (my doc can do them in his room which is good) and despite a mighty fine view unfortuntately there was no egg sac popping up to have its picture taken and the rest of what he saw confirmed this one is a no go too. So its good I know what is happening at least, and right now this feels like at least it also confirmed my instincts as I do rely a lot on them.

At the moment I am in the numb/no feeling stage, although the snake that was trying to go up our driveway when I returned from town hopefully got a huge fright as I tried to deal with it in the car Dukes of Hazzard style for those who remember that show. I do hope the Garbage Truck drivers watching me come back again next week though!.

Cheers

Doots

Sorry - yuck note coming. Just hit rock bottom over the weekend. I was wound up like a really tight ball last week and think I mentioned that I wasn't sleeping at all. Took Thursday off work and then decided to take Friday as well since still didn't sleep. I must have accidientally left the phone off the hook early on Friday morning as I finally stuck it back on and mum called straight away in an absolute panic. With DH at the oil rig and no other relo's in WA and mum unable to contact me and work saying they didn't know where I was she just paniced completely (parents are on holiday's in Tassie).

Made me go to the Dr (GP) who said I was extremely anxious and stressed (the fact that I couldn't stop scratching my chest was a bit of a giveaway along with the dark rings) and he put me on some sort of anti-anxiety drug and sleeping pills. That has taken away the stress and finally finally I have started to cry. I apparently shoved all the grief to one side as I was too scared to go there and now it has hit me pretty much at full force. I am in constant tears. I feel ever so lonely what with DH offshore, parents in TAs or NSW (whereever they are now) and all my good friends in NSW. I feel very isolated. Thank god for Barry.

I had a wonderful dream on Saturday night that has settled me down a lot and just made me sad. DH and I had always thought there was a risk - despite us both having dark hair and olive skin) of a red headed babe (his sister has red hair and fair skin as do most of his uncles and aunts as does my grandmother). I dreamt of a beautiful red haired baby lying on a cloth - arms and legs kicking and smiling ever so happily and calmly.

I had felt so guilty that I didn't "attach" to this one as I was being so careful not to get attached after the awful grief of losing Peanut - who we had talked to every day. It was almost like my little "Twinkle", Riley was letting me know that she was fine and she knew she Iloved her and that she was in a lovely place and loved me and DH very much.

God I just can't stop crying today. I met a work friend for lunch and the concern on her face when she saw me said it all - from about 20 metres away she said I looked like sh**t.

Although I feel like I am at rock bottom I feel like I really am at rock bottom - IYKWIM. I mean that I know the only place from here is up. I feel incredibly sad but also a slight sense of relief that I am finally grieving. I just hope it doesn't hang around too long.

I have the counsellor coming over again on Wednesday night - I think DH has asked her to keep tabs on me given I am on my own. And then on Friday I am getting hypnotised. I am terrified of being pregnant again - absolutely terrified!!!! And given my endo I am in a catch 22 situation - if I leave it months before TTC I may well loose the ability to conceive - if I go to soon I am sooo stressed and terrified I probably won't conceive anyway!!! So hypnotherapy here I come. DH is going to die at the cost!

Bugsy - what is the name of that book you are reading ? I think I need to read that .....

Sorry - no personals! Except to say DOOTS - I wish you sooooooo much luck, I really really do!

and congrats to the other BFPs - excuse me for not naming names - I just am so low on energy today.

I wish I had my mum or my DH right now - how I could go for a hug. Hold on - only 10 more days and I will be back in Sydney !!!!!! and I can get that hug from mum. 15 more days and I can get it from DH!!!


Kylie (32)
DH (36)
TTC Since 05/03
M/C "Peanut" 20/10/2003 9 weeks
M/C "Twinkle" 11/02/2004 8 weeks

A contribution to the quote comp:


Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul.
Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal.

Kylie (32)
DH (36)
TTC Since 05/03
M/C "Peanut" 20/10/2003 9 weeks
M/C "Twinkle" 11/02/2004 8 weeks