Hi everyone

Here is your new group as requested.

There are a few rules so here they are:

As specified this will be the one and only follow on thread from the TTC #2 thread in the TTC Buddy Groups.

The rules are the same as for the TTC Buddy Group section and I am still your moderator original.gif

Also as Essential Baby is an open site all, other members are welcome to join this group.

Congratulations girls and I wish you all the best for the next 9 months and welcome new ladies as they come through.

Those members still TTC'ing in your group TTC group are welcome to post or read this thread to see how you are all going but I stress that once your BFP is confirmed you should only post in this thread.


Regards

Ali

Thanks Ali

Woohoooo i am the first poster i wonder if anyone else is going to come in and post

Ok now to divulge how i am really feeling 6.5 weeks preggo here and freaking out at times i have my good days but i also have my bad ones where i worry about another blighted ovum dreading the first scan.....

Oh and just to add i have major no vomiting i didn't with DD either but horrid 24/7 nausea and i just feel very off i can't function

Can I claim SILVER ??????



Looks like I'm due 4th December. Starting to feel the tiredness dammit.

Ahhhh well, all for a good cause!!! Will try to get a blood test next week, before easter. Anyone else going to do that?

Carol I would feel the same I think - it's so hard this early as you know they don't always survive. I try to distract myself as much as I can until the safe time. I did read that after 8 weeks the likelihood of it being okay is much better than earlier. So I'll feel a bit better once I get to that point I think.

Whoo hoo! Came in to spy on the other girls to see how they were going and saw this thread. 16 weeks now and have had on/off spotting and bleeding up to 13 weeks.

I haven't really posted much in the september DIG just because I wasn't confident but starting to feel wiggle movements now. Due 12th September. I need to go back to Gp for 1 more visit and get my referral for 20 week scan and then I will start going to antenatal clinic at hospital.

I don't really have many symptoms mainly I am still tired but I can get past 8.00pm every night now. Good luck everyone!

Hello Ladies. I like this new group.
Well I'm sitting at 18 or 19 weeks now and the next scan is 4/4/12 which we should be seeing what it is that is on board. I have people guessing it's a girl then a boy it's been intriguing. Movement has been sporadic, me thinks due to the anterior placenta but there have been a few "upper cuts" through my gut when I have clearly upset the baby nugget whilst bending in weird ways

*Mumma-to-A* - I hear you on feeling confident with the pregnancy we have hardly told any of our friends, I feel a little bad but I really want to wait till the next scan to ensure all's as well as can be before I feel comfortable to tell all. I also had on and off spotting for the first 13 weeks and got to say being 2nd time around for me has been so much more stressful in so many ways that I have hardly really thought about her all things going well there will be a new member of our family in August.

caroldiem - the nausea was so much worse this time around. 5 of the 6 ladies from mother's group that I keep in touch with are all pregnant and they all had pretty full on nausea, not sure what it's all about. Mine did finally pass around week 13 :-) hope it's sooner for you.

aurora sleeping - Tiredness of the 1st trimester so don't miss that much harder this time around not as many chances for naps :-)

Hi Mummas!

Just spotted this online- what a cracker!
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/photogalle...0323-1vp2e.html

For those of you who dont know me, I am about 5 weeks along and due late Nov/early Dec (will prob need a dating scan). DD is 11 months old, I am 30 (current bub was probably conceived on my bday!) and DH is 34.

We had been trying since Dec, with one CP and one MC.

I have already told close family cause I wouldnt be able to keep it a secret- I am also a drinker so they would know something was up in an instant!

I am a little tired, only cause DD was awake shouting MUMUMUMUM in her cot at 3am this morning! Have to pee a little more frequently and have massive cravings for hot food (mmmmm, Red rooster chips, nomnomnom).

caroldiem- chin up my love, hope it will ease off sooner rather than later. If it makes you feel any better my record of chucking with DD was 12 times in one day. thought I was gonna vomit not only the baby up but one of my legs too!

aurora sleeping- Bring on 8 weeks! They say that for twins, the new "ok time to tell" is about 8 weeks and for single babies, 10 weeks is pretty much okay as the volume of M/C in those weeks between 10 and 12 has really decreased in the past few years.

*Mumma-to-A*- Hope everything is okay now. Maybe spotting was just normal for you?

ms-marti- Are you def gonna find out the sex? We did with DD and I think we will do the same again. I love surprises but not surprises THAT big!

Anyway, have spent waaaay too much time on EB this morning.
Chat soon!

Hi ladies!! Very excited for this group to be here and to be a part of it!! Although I'm freaking out after my m/c and the fact that I've had some brown discharge this morning. AF was due today so I'm hoping it's just some old blood coming away from that but I just feel like I'm about to go through the whole thing again. I did do another HPT this morning and the test line came up before the control line and was darker than the BFP I got on Wednesday.

Agh sorry for my little rant, it's so stressful but I'm trying not to stress as I know that won't help either.

Ok personals now!!!

Mumma-to-A - Wow 16 weeks already! That time has flown by!! And I hope you don't mind but I am taking some comfort in the fact that you had spotting/bleeding on and off for the first 13 weeks. Oh the first niggles are so exciting!! Great to talk to you again

caroldiem - I'm hearing you about having good days and bad. This is only my 3rd day and it's already been a rollercoaster ride of emotions!! Promising news though that you still feel so sick!

aurorasleeping - hi! And I'm hearing you on the tiredness! Last night I was soooo tired but then I start second guessing the reason?! Was it just a long day at work?? But we're talking absolutely buggered at 8.00 which is not like me at all!!

ms marti - hello again to you too! I'm loving this group!! Wow 18-19 weeks! How exciting about your scan next week! We'll be finding out what we're having too! I hope you don't mind either but I'm also taking some comfort in your spotting in the first 13 weeks. It's definitely more stressful this time round.

gisses - Hi! Hopefully a few of the other girls who got their BFP will come over shortly?!

Ok well apart from my little stressed out rant above I'm due on the 8th of December and going to see my GP on Thursday. Not sure what will happen with bloods as I'm guessing I won't be able to have the second lot til after Easter but I guess there should be a nice big jump (hopefully) in that time.

Not a lot of symptoms so far, very tired last night, a bit of gagging when brushing my teeth, gagged when I smelt the new soap I brought this morning!! Boobs a little sore and a few dull aches etc. oh and I seem to have a lot of CM? Anyone else having this??

I'm not having an early scan this time round, I didn't with DS so I'm going to wait until at least 8 weeks. It's just a little time frame I have in my head as we lost bubs at 7 weeks last time so if I make it that far then I'll feel more comfortable having it then.

That's it for me for now! Hope you're all having a great day

Andrea xox

Hi ladies, especially to those who have just graduated from the TTC#2 group as well!

carol – sorry about the nausea, hope you feel better really soon! I’ve had a bit, but nothing I can’t power through

aurora – I hear you on the tiredness! And looks like I’m due around 3 Dec

mumma-to-a – oooohhh, movements, I’m really looking forward to that again

ms-marti – good luck for the next scan. Do you have hopes either way for gender?

gisses – well done on the birthday bub! I know what you mean about telling people because you drink. I’ll be making up some corkers of excuses for the next few weeks! I’m actually finding it harder to not tell people this time around

andrea – yes, I’m having lots of CM. I remember having it with DD but maybe not as early as this?

AFM: I got my BFP on Sunday, had bloods on Monday to confirm and off to the GP next Wednesday. Am very excited! Not sure if I’ll have a dating scan or not, had one with DD but didn’t really need to as I was sure of my dates and I think I’m pretty sure this time too – although I did ovulate late so maybe it’s worth having a scan?

I pretty much feel exactly the same as I did in the early days with DD so perhaps I’m having another girl? We’re not fussed either way in terms of gender. We didn’t find out for DD and probably won’t find out for this one either.

ETA: I'll be considering a VBAC for this bub, is anyone else in that situation too?

Hi Girls

Congratulations on your BFPs and I hope we all have uneventful pregnancies ahead of us.

A little about me, I am 41, DP is 42, DS is 20 months and we have been TTC#2 for 12 months which included a missed m/c at 11.5 weeks, and a chem pregnancy the month before this one. Our EDD is 4 Dec (I think) but will get a scan when we can to see if that is right.

Pssst - We are in the same boat, not fussed on gender, just hoping for a successful pregnancy. As for VBAC, I am going the other way. I had a natural birth first time around and (for me) it was horrendous experience. It put DS in a lot of distress so I will be requesting CS and given I will be close to 42 when I deliver, I am sure I will get one.

Andrea - I am feeling what you are saying. I am not as excited as I would like be, as it feels like the m/c was not that distant a memory. I hope the blood spotting is an isolated event. The HPT sounds perfect tho so it sounds like its going well. Hang in there chicka.

Gisses - I hope DD is giving you a little bit of a break and sleeping through the night. I hear you re tiredness, but I imagine bub waking during the night doesn't help. Thankfully DS has been behaving in that regard, tho I think he is hitting the terrible 2s early (and I dont like it). Also he is very active so I am wondering how I am going to keep him from whacking me in the stomach.

Hi Miss Marti - I hope your scan goes well and that you are able to tell everyone your news. It sounds like you have had a bit of a stressful time with the spotting but the upper cuts do sound very promising for a healthy bubba. Fingers crossed for a wonderful result.

Mumma-to-A - 16 weeks - WOW that seems to have gone quickly tho I expect that is easy for me to say. May not have gone as quickly for you. I know what you mean about the DIGs. I started in one last time before the mc but it was just too many people. Good luck with your 20 week scan.

Hi Aurora - yeah I dont know what to do about blood tests. I have an appt with my OB 2 weeks yesterday and he gave me blood tests to check on fertility when I saw him last month assuming I wasn't pregnant. Know that I am, I think I will just wait to see him and do what he asks me then.

Carol - hope the eases off soon. I know I was awfully sick with DS for about 7 months so I am hoping I am not like that this time, but at least it was a successful outcome so I will take what is dished out.

AFM - seeing my chinese fertility lady regularly for acupuncture appointments but they are a bit of a chunk out of my day. Also taking the herbs which are yuk, but seem to be doing the job so wont be stopping until at least the 3 month mark.

Also seeing my OB in 2 weeks but I suspect it will be too early to see much, but he wanted to see me early given the last missed mc.

Symptoms, slight nausea, especially if I am working out, tho only doing light workouts. Mild cramping on and off which is annoying but comforting at the same time. Tiredness during the day and sleeplessness at night which my acupuncture lady says is due to elevated progesterone so she gave me a couple of needles today to help with that.

I hope you all have a great weekend
smiley

Hi girlsssss

I came in earlier today and did this long post and lost all of it GRRRRRRRRR so I decided to take a time out and come back later.

aurora sleeping - YAY for the love them!!!! I can relate to feeling tired i haven't been able to function fortunately i am not working right now and I am at home so i sleep atleast 10hrs a night and have nanna naps in the afternoons most days. In regards to the blood test i think it's good to get it done for piece of mind. I got one done at 17dpo and then another one done at 19dpo to see if the HCG was doubling i also asked to get my progestrone checked just in case there were any issues there and fortunately the results came back good it's just to give you some piece of mind that it's starting off well. Considering i am at home and i don't have work to distract me i have been pretty happy with my attitude for the most part as i said some days not good but most days i think it's out of my control whatever happens is going to happen it's good to have a happy positive attitude throughout it but it's natural to worry!!!

*Mumma-to-A* - Congrats on making it to 16 weeks that is awesome i think you got your BFP just as i joined the TTC2 thread. How did you get through the first 13 weeks with the on/off spotting? that would have been so hard for me i would have been terrified. Look forward to hearing about your 20 wk scan i am sure it will all go smoothly.

ms-marti - I had an anterior placenta with DD my first and i didn't feel anything until 22 weeks i am hoping this time around it will be different but only time will tell (If there is a baby in my belly hehheheh). Oh wow you had spotting as well that would have been so stressful i can understand why you haven't said anything yet. Because of my miscarriage (blighted ovum) last year DH and I have decided to zip our lips for quite awhile maybe even wait till after the 20 wk scan, the only people that know are my trainer ( I love this man he is awesome and very supportive) my mum, dad and sister that's it, DH's whole family has no clue and they won't for awhile fortunately my sister in law is due to give birth to a baby girl any day now so the focus is on that which makes it easier not to spill the beans, plus my other sister in law also had a blighted ovum in February soooooooooo i know my news will hurt her.....but i have been a real help and support to her in such a difficult time it was her first.

gisses Thanks for the chin up heheheheeh fortunately i am only chucking once in the morning at the moment I will pass on 12 times a day that is just insane you poor thing. I am so over the peeing already it's guaranteed i am up at 4am to pee then at 5am then at 6am it drives me batty arghhhhhhhhhhhhh. Love the link just checked it out


andrea79 I can 100% relate to how you are feeling the brown spotting was probably implementation bleeding it happens. Ok so we miscarried the same month last time this time around we have to make sure that just doesn't happen with amazing positive attitudes i keep reciting the mantra "My body knows how to make a baby it's done it before and it can do it again" i don't think i got the words right but you get the gist it makes me feel better. Don't be sorry for the rant please rant away that's what we are here for i know it's really hard and so stressful and the silly brown blood does not help the situation!!! I that it will all be ok and we will get through it together your going to be ok. I have a truck load of CM it seems to have parked itself in my private bits it's a constant flow of white clear fluidddd in the beginning i was paranoid it was blood (run to the toilet and check every 5 secs hehehehe) but fortunately i am getting used to it now it annoys me but it's also a good sign it means things are happening.


Pssst... - I had a Vaginal delivery with my first DD and i plan on doing it again if everything goes well i was induced as well my OB stressed the fact that there is a 50% chance of having a emergency c-section with your first pregnancy if you are induced but i was determined to have a natural birth so i did tons of research and came across this great documentary by Ricki lake called "The Business of being born" and it's all about the American medical system and how the push these drugs onto the pregnant woman during labour and how it creates a rollercoaster for emergency c-sections to happen basically OB's in the US just want to get out the door of the hospital and they don't care about the what's best for the patient or their baby. So when it was my turn i took my fitball in the delivery room i refused drugs went 18hrs with nothing then at the end i had to have the epidural to get the baby out i didn't want to but i thought it's more important this baby is born then being rushed to emergency c-section because i was too stubborn

AFM - Well i don't know how i have gotten through the last couple of weeks some days have been fine and others not so good but fortunately i won't have to wait too much longer to find out if i have a real baby in there this time. part of me is sad because this journey could be cut short again I had another lot of blood tests done this week to see what my HCG levels are and if they are rising, I wanted to check for week 6 that they are over 10,000 because when i had the blighted ovum they peaked at 9000 something and that was it plus the scan was so traumatic last time that i want to go into this scan armed with some idea of how it's going to go. Last year with the blighted ovum i didn't feel pregnant and i knew something was wrong from Day 1 BUT this time around i am sicker then with my DD, we think it could be a boy. My MS is so bad now i can barely leave the house i am so lucky i am not working i just couldn't do it, the nausea has really kicked up a notch this week along with the morning vomit. So Monday morning i have my doctors appt where i will get my HCG results and then if there not good i will probably have a scan that day if they are good i will hopefully have a scan Tuesday or Wednesday i have to know before Easter, it's been killing me...not knowing

Smiley - I just saw your post we must have posted around the same time. It's interesting my chinese doctor will not treat me now that i am pregnant. I rang her and asked her but she said there was no need maybe it depends on your situation i started seeing her in Feb she has a fantastic reputation and is the best acupuncturist in Sydney everyone knows of her and i fell pregnant straight away that cycle. She said if i have bad MS she can treat me for that but if not no need.

hi guys, Bex18 here from the TTC # 2. Just wanted to pick a few brains. Last night I had pinkish blood in cloudy CM - I was 10DPO. Is that too early for implantation bleeding? I have had nothing today, just a bit of off white brownn tinge after i wipe.
Did anyone else have this? I did check my CP on thurs night, could that have caused a bit of pink blood on the fri night? AF is doe on wed - should i test now, or wait until then?

Pssst - hi! I really can't remember if I had a lot of CM with DS but I definitely do this time around so that's reassuring! Sorry cant help with the VBAC, as DS was a VB and definitely planning the same this time. Actually he was a water birth which I LOVED and will be wanting another water birth this time. I honestly believe that's what helped me to not tear or anything, only a small graze!

Smileyhappy - thanks hon, I'm hanging in there! Just trying to make myself understand that there's nothing I can do to stop anything from happening so just relax and STOP stressing!! I'm hoping my OB doesn't want me to have an early scan, I just don't want to have one after what happened last year but I'll wait and see

caroldiem - thank you hon I will definitely start reciting that mantra and I'm trying to relax more and just let be what will be. There's nothing I can do anyway to stop it so I need to concentrate on doing what I can do and having a positive attitude is what will help so we'll definitely be in this together! And I know exactly what you mean about the CM! It freaks me out because I think I've started bleeding or something so I hate going to the loo but all good so far!! All the best for Monday and I have a good feeling that everything will be fine and you'll see your little baby before Easter!

bex18 - hi and no I don't think that's too early for implantation bleeding so it sounds very promising! I would have thought if you had irritated your cervix on Thursday you would have seen it before Friday night? And no, not too early to test so it's up to you! I got a pretty strong positive at 11DPO so keep us posted!

AFM - well no more brown discharge and it really wasn't much at all so hopefully it was just some old blood coming away because AF was due yesterday. I'll do another HPT Monday morning and then wait till I see my GP on Thursday. Trying to remain positive and not stress out!

Still feeling tired, peeing a lot and now waking in the early hours of the morning to pee and then having trouble going back to sleep grrrrr! Boobs a bit sore, feeling hungry a fair bit and not full on nausea but a bit off IYKWIM?!

Well I really need to get off EB and get ready, DS has swimming in a bit over an hour! Hope you're all well and you have a great weekend

Andrea xox

bex 18 - So glad you posted in here i was in the TTC thread and i saw your posts but obviously i couldn't reply because where not allowed to so i was going to PM you but no need your here YAY!!!! u must encourage the other girls to come in and say HI as well i miss them

Ok so i think it's one of two things we know for a fact low progestrone does cause breakthrough bleeding which is the spotting you get before the full force AF. As you know this isn't the greatest news because you need good prog levels to support a pregnancy but fortunately that's a problem that is very easily fixed with prog pessaries. Yes it could also be implementation bleeding but i have a feeling it's the former issue if i was you i would test using a HPT straight away and if you get a positive u must go straight to the GP for prog support if the test isn't positive then you know it's because of the low prog and if i was you i would seek treatment for that. You do acupuncture right but you were saying your chinese herbal medicine doctor hasn't given you any herbs???? I really think you need to find a new chinese doctor who will give you herbs to realign your hormones and it should help with prog too are u in sydney? if so PM me and i have a fantastic one i can refer you to. Goodluck please know you are always welcome in here all the TTC2 girls are

andrea79 Definitely sounds like implementation bleeding it's all good

UPDATE: i did a test, BFN Had dr appt, and she refused to give me the tablets for progesterone, apparently it is up to a fertility specialist to request these. Getting bloods redone at CD21 to compare to bloods done 3 months ago. She said that if my periods are light, then she is happy to write me a referral to a FS. Will do this next month if AF shows. Hoping that the pink in the CM last night is implantation, just have to wait a few more days, grr!

I didn't realise that low progesterone can cause break through bleeding, really think it is not a BFP. I have never had pink discharge days before my period. It normally starts a day before, and is red, not pink. Are GP's allowed to write scripts for progesterone pessaries?

No I am based in Brisbane But in sydney for a wedding in april, may be i should make an appointment lol!

Yes he said he doesn't think i need herbs.. which is odd right, normally A and TCM go hand in hand. Feeling really blah now.

Grrr just wrote a long post and lost it. And so tired, so going to bed. Hi to you all, looking forward to being part of this group.

JuniorGandR - That is very frustrating i don't like it when that happens.

I have had and still have really bad MS today i can barely eat anything except raisin toast but food doesn't even make me feel better anymore i vomited twice and waiting for the next one. My DH is being very unsupportive at the moment he is being very grumpy just sitting in front of his computer and playing his silly football game while i am here dying and trying to deal with DD she is still up

GP said she wouldn't give me the script for the pessaries.. not sure if it was because she couldn't or because she wouldn't. She looked at the rest of my hormones and said that you need to look at them overall, not individually, and she said it all looked fine. So might need to make an appt at a FS - $200. Will be so angry if GP's can write them, and she was just being difficult.

Take a look at my chart, my temps drop after 7DPO. Temps are related to progesterone right? So if temps are droppping, then that means progesterone is dropping too? Apparently progesterone needs to stay high until about 11DPO, otherwise difficult to maintain a pregnancy. But does low progesterone cause other probs in a cycle? Everything else is so normal for me, 14 day luteal phase, at least 3 sustained temps rises to indicate O and 28 day(ish) cycle.

Naturpath talked about putting me on chaste tree if i wanted something for the progesterone levels. My only worry is, if there is an underlying issue, then what happens when i do fall pregnant on these herbs as you can't keep taking them when you are pregnant. Does that mean i will miscarry?

Acupuncture guy said that by doing acupuncture, we are restoring the balance within the body, which then in turn gets everything doing what it should, hormones and all, which is why he is hesitant to give me them... ?

I don't know what to do? Do i make a FS appointment? Am i being too obsessive over the whole thing, should i just wait and get CD21 bloods done again with the GP? The problem with tesing P at CD21 is that is when it is at its peak, 1 week after ovulation, then it starts too drop, so what i need to monitor is how fast it drops, because if it gets less than 20, thats when it can't hold a pregnancy.

Hope your MS is better today, try some ginger x

gisses, yep I'm thinking I'll need a dating scan too. I had one with DS and I just want to know it's only one in there. Plus, I found it helpful to see the heart beating, just knowing that a number of big obstacles are over by then. And if things haven't happened, I'd prefer to know sooner rather than later. Loved that photo gallery you posted, so cute!!!!

At this point, thinking a bit more carefully about my cycles, O day and when I should be due, I'm going to say I'm due 6th December as that's more accurate. I was early with DS though, so I'm going to be prepared for that!!!

andrea rant away! That's what we're here for! Hoping it's all fine mate, and that the next few weeks fly by for you!

Pssst... no VBAC here as I had a vag one with DS but I say, go for it!!!! Some OBs aren't keen though, so might want to check that with your OB?

carol that sounds like my dream - no nanna naps for me, especially with DS! However, I have school hols coming up when I'll be more at home so will try to get some naps in when DS is asleep. And yep, I'm thinking I'll go with the blood test, just to be sure. Sucks you're feeling so crap, but on the flip side, that's a really good sign for a sticky bubba!!!! Hoping you get confirmation of HCG levels rising very soon!!!!

Hi JuniorGandR!!!! Bummer about the post, I always feel like that's such a waste of time!!!!

bex sorry to hear AF arrived - was stalking the other thread and saw.

AFM - More tired (stupid me being awake now, but slept in til Noon today!!!!!). Also getting colostrum already! Just a bit, but it's there! Plus a few aches and pains around the pelvic/hip region. I think things are getting more flexible and I spent the last couple of days at a conference sitting on the floor a lot, so I think I've been stretching myself out a bit!!! In any case, it's now a bit sore. No nausea yet, but I had no vomiting with DS, only a tiny bit of nausea when I didn't eat regularly. Feeling bloated and pulling my tummy in to try not to look preg - don't know how I'm going to hide it!!!

Anyone want to share a brief summary of their birth story with #1? Mine goes like this - tried to be short!:

10 days before EDD, my waters break spectacularly in the lounge room, after my plug coming out that morning (was about 5:30pm at this point). Gushing out - thank goodness for faux leather lounge and wooden floors!!! Home by myself, call DH, leave teary, scared message to COME HOME, call Mum to come over now, call hospital, then get in the bath as I have no idea where to go with all this stuff literally gushing out!!! (I was pretty big and my OB said it seemed as if I had a lot of amnio fluid). Go to hospital at about 7:30, contractions (which had started 5 mins after waters), 5 mins apart but not too bad. Try to manage pain moving around. After a couple of hours try gas. Makes me want to vomit - no way. Curse gas as that was my pain relief option I was going to rely on! Get in bath for about 1hr (feels like 5 mins). About 1am get in shower. Feel like elephant in trauma and sway and groan through pain. After 5 very bad contractions (which I realised was Transition Stage later) decide I want epi. Send DH to get midwife. She says to come out so she can see me. Don't want to come out, so try to walk, struggling, so get on all fours to 'rest' and involuntarily PUSH - tell DH to tell midwife I am PUSHING! She says come out so she can see. Get onto bed and feel relieved, my poor legs needed a rest: OB called, I am told I can push if I want while I wait (15 mins). OB gets there 2am, then start to push properly: WAAAAAY better feeling than Transition stage!!! 20 mins later DS born, cord around neck but OB sorts it out quick. We lie with him for about 1.5hrs (bliss), then rinse off and we all go to room to have sleep before the breakfast gets brought around! After hearing a few stories, I feel like this was a really good labour, and not traumatic at all (well, was a bit for DH but it always is for them I think!!!).

I would be happy to have the same experience this time, but trying to prepare for whatever happens (I tried to do that last time too, think about the options beforehand but try to go with what happens on the day).

Anyone else want to share? It's okay if not, I know for some it can be a bit horrific.

Guys i thought VBAC was just a normal vaginal delivery which is what i had with DD what is VBAC then???? HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh just worked it out vaginal birth after a c section gee i feel silly i need to go back and amend my earlier post


bex18 - You poor thing you sound really stressed and worried about it. if i was you i would see a FS specialist and get more testing done. Don't worry it will all work out in the end and may i add you are YOUNG still in your 20's which is awesome in my mind you have heaps of time u should not worry.

Ok i am off to the docs this morning my DH is coming with me for support this is it I am freaking out!!!!

Just a quickie for me:

Carol- how did ur appointment go?

bex - sorry to hear AF arrived and sorry I can't help with the progesterone stuff, I'm a little clueless when it comes to all that stuff. Hopefully you get some answers soon and you're GP isn't just stuffing you around.

JuniorGandR - grrrr very frustrating when that happens. Hope you had a good nights sleep though!

carol - how did the results go today?

aurorasleeping - thanks hon and yes, things seem to be going well at the moment. I love reading people's birth stories so I'll share mine in a minute but understand if people don't want to.

AFM - boobs getting sorer, tired, waking at 4.00-5.00 to pee then having trouble going back to sleep. No nausea as such but just a general off feeling, especially if I'm hungry. Oh and appetite seems to have increased a bit but not much. More randomly I'll just feel sooooo hungry and it seems to take forever to satisfy it, then other times it's not too bad! Just hanging out now to see my GP on Thursday. I could have got a walk in appt today with another doc if I wanted but after my mc last time I just want to see my GP!

Ok here's my birth story for DS! I'll try and keep it short!

I lost my mucous plug about 3.00pm Monday so thought something might happen within the next 24 hrs! My mum was flying down from Sydney the next day to spend some time with me before the birth and she was coming in with DH as she wasn't able to experience my sisters or SIL's births for one reason or another.

Tuesday morning woke up at 8.00 and as I got out of bed I felt a little rush of water but it wasn't a lot. I didn't know if it was my waters breaking or I'd peed myself! Figured out it was my waters so called my midwife. As no contractions had started she said to call her back at midday to tell her how I was progressing. For the next couple of hours I had a shower and just wandered around the house. Pains/contractions not that bad, mainly felt like bad period pain.

I started timing my contractions at 10.40am and they were about 4 mins apart and lasting about 30-60secs. By 11.20 or so they were getting stronger and closer together so thought I'd better call my midwife back then rather than wait til midday. As soon as I told her what was going on she said to come to the hospital and meet her there between 12.15-12.30!

So off we went. I still remember as clear as anything sitting at traffic lights having a contraction and DH said that maybe we should have left earlier - my response was - don't worry about that now, just drive!! Oh and before we left I called my mum and told her to drive straight from the airport to the hospital - about 1.5hrs away.

Got to the hospital at 12.20. Midwife checked me about 12.30-12.45 and I was 3cms. About 1.00-1.15pm I hopped in the bath for some natural pain relief (no pain relief so far) and the bath was amazing. It's makes the uterus so buoyant and took the pain off my back. My mum arrived at 1.30pm! Good timing!

Just after mum arrived the midwife came in and didn't do another internal because it was a bit harder in the bath but considering I was only 3cms before she said I'd probably have at least another 3 hrs to go. So about 2 or a bit after the contractions were running into each other and I wasn't getting a break. I told DH that there was no way I could keep doing that for another 3 hrs so I asked for the pethidine. Midwife jabbed me then about 10 mins later I needed to push! Midwife was caught a little offguard and at 2.20pm DS entered the world! I didn't feel any affects of the pethidine at all and the midwife said it wouldn't have had time to take affect anyway?

So I had cuddles in the bath for a little while but the water was getting cold so they took him away to weigh etc while I walked back to my room to have a shower.

It was the most amazing day of my life!

Hi girls,

feeling very i really can't function am i the only one but is anyone else checking for blood every 5 mins it's crazy i know i can't believe i am at 7 weeks I need to get myself a ticker

OK so went and saw my GP this morning i was able to convince my Dh to come with me for support i was so nervous it felt like D Day for me. Anyway sat down and she's like "How are you" and i 'm like " I have been really sick" she's like "yeah you look it" and then i am thinking oh crap she is delaying telling us the results because they are BAD!! but luckily this wasn't the case she said well great news your results are brill.

22 000 beginning of week 6 and then 3 days later it was 46 000 so i was so overwhelmed i started crying my DH is looking at me like "Please don't cry don't embarrass me now pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee". Anyway so she was so excited she got me in for a scan at 11:30am woohooooo

So based on my LMP date i would be 7 weeks today and due 19th of November. I was so nervous waiting for the scan fortunately the woman that did my scan was lovely i went to lie on the table and i just started crying I told her about my miscarriage and how scared i was i asked her not to put the TV on i didn't want to see. Fortunately my bladder was nice and full so i just had an external scan, she spent about 30secs looking and then see there's the sac, yolk sac, fetal pole and the baby. i couldn't believe it the baby is measuring spot on for dates exactly 7w and based on her report i am also due on the 19th of Nov so i was very happy about that, the heartbeat was 141bpm which she said was the average and overall she said everything looked good nothing to worry about it. I was crying when we left the room.

When i got home i read the report and it said i had a small extra membranous hemorrhage inferior to the gestational sac measuring 1ml in volume i have had no bleeding up to this point so i am going to assume my body will just absorb it because 1ml is tiny right? also i am aware from my DD's pregnancy that i have a bicornuate uterus i told the sonographer today but she called it a subseptate uterus it is a deformity and it can cause issues later on in the pregnancy or can cause a miscarriage if the egg is implanted on the septum and not receiving blood flow fortunately my deformity is minor and i figure i had my DD with the same uterus so hopefully i can do it again but i will address this with him when i see him in 3 weeks so now i am just for no bleeding over the next 3 weeks

Now the next milestone waiting for OB appt 3 weeks to go

Wow Andrea your story is a little similar to mine - my DS was born at 2:20am!

Oh Carol, you and your VBACs you crack me up - don't worry I didn't know what it was for ages too! Now my post will look weird ! So glad you got a good result lovely, I was thinking of you!!! I'm sure it will be okay, like you said, your uterus has done it before! It's a good sign that she said everything looks good - but so hard not to worry isn't it! I'm looking for blood every time I go to the toilet too - sometimes I go just to check as I imagine something's there, but it's just some CM or something. So, certainly not the only one lovely!!! I find distraction is the key!

AFM - Got my blood test today. Technically I'm only 4 weeks and 4 days along, but my levels were 3115, which I think is quite high. I'm sure of when I ovulated, so it's not further along than what I think. Hmmmm can't wait to see the scan now!!!! Wondering if there's more than one... Will call the OB tomorrow to book in officially - gosh, that makes me feel like it's all real now!!!!! Can't believe it's really happening!!!!

aurora sleeping -I can't wait for your scan either how exciting i am getting the feeling you are definitely having twins, i am getting not identical 2 girls i wonder if i am right ( I am a little bit psychic)

Smiley – everyone’s birth experiences are so different, I find it really fascinating. Even though I’d like to go for VBAC this time, my C/S and recovery went really well. And I can see why you might want to choose one – I have a friend in a similar situation too. Hopefully all will go well for both of us!

Carol – don’t worry about the VB/VBAC thing. I still get confused by acronyms in this place! My C/S wasn’t an emergency but it wasn’t planned either (see story below). There shouldn’t be any reason why I can’t have a VB so hopefully it will go that way. Sorry about your nausea, but in a weird way it must be comforting to have such strong symptoms. Glad to hear everything went well with your blood tests and scan

Andrea – the water birth sounds amazing! I’ve been super hungry too. Had two breakfasts yesterday! One at home and another when I got to work! But I felt sooooo sick on the way to work and I just had to eat something. I find that I can go along for ages and then suddenly – bam! I’m starving and I have to eat NOW!

Aurora – yes, will be interesting to see if my OB will support me. He’s a pretty relaxed guy and we’re keen to use him again – but if he won’t support me then I’ll be looking elsewhere. Thanks for sharing your birth story, I love hearing/reading them! Did you manage to book in with your OB? Will be watching closely to see if your high levels do mean twins!

AFM – on and off nausea and still some tiredness. Took DD to her swimming lesson this morning and my boardies were a bit harder to do up! Feeling quite bloated and I have been eating heaps to combat the nausea. Must try really hard not to put on 20kg like I did with DD though!! I do bootcamp three times a week and told my trainer yesterday. I managed to keep going with bootcamp until I was about 15/16 weeks with DD and then it was too intense. Only problem was I didn’t replace it with anything. So have to make sure I do better this time.

Stuck my head into the December DIG briefly. So many people! Not sure if I can keep up with all of that, but I'll try to at least go back and introduce myself...

Also happy to share my birth story. I had what could be described as the typical ‘cascade of intervention’ but it was not traumatic at all…

OB was talking about inducing me due to PE and I was going to the hospital for monitoring twice a week. And I had some acupuncture to try to get things moving along naturally. I was meant to go to the hospital on the Wednesday night to be induced but the OB called to tell me that the hospital was too busy and I should just go and see him for my usual Thursday morning appointment. Sitting at home Wed afternoon I felt a tiny trickle. Didn’t think it was my waters, just thought I let a bit of wee out! And nothing else happened after that so I didn’t think anything of it

Thursday morning we went to the appointment where the OB did an internal and my waters went all over him, all over his bed and all over the floor!! Sent to the hospital for checking but they still didn’t want me. Once they were satisfied all was OK with bub, they sent me home to clean up and pick up my bags etc. Back to the hospital around 2pm. By this stage it was nearly 24 hours since my waters broke (the tiny trickle the day before) and no contractions had commenced so they put me on the drip. All was fine, labour built up at a good rate and I dilated and coped with the contractions well.

By about midnight I was asking for pain relief but I couldn’t handle having the mouthpiece for the gas in my mouth – it made me want to gag and I’d already been feeling nauseas. DD was posterior so the only comfortable position was standing bolt upright with my hands on the bed. But my legs would keep getting tired. Originally I didn’t want an epidural because I wanted to have the option to move around. But I was pretty much stuck on or near the bed anyway, so decided to have one. And managed to have a couple of hours rest thanks to it. I seemed to stay at 7cm but since DD was showing no signs of distress they were happy to let things continue on to see if they would start up again. Eventually though, my OB advised the C/S due to the fact that many hours of ‘ineffective’ contractions can actually be damaging to the uterus and make it harder to have other kids. So, we agreed and DD was born just before 4am. Turns out that she had turned during labour and was stuck so was probably never going to come out on her own.

The worst part of the experience for me was being so sick from the morphine about 2-3 hours after DD was born. And then the fact that I couldn’t get up to get her wasn’t great either, especially that night once my DH and mum had left. I recovered really well and at the beginning wasn’t too bothered by the fact that I’d had a C/S. But the more time that goes on, the more I wonder ‘what if’ and I’ll admit to pangs of jealousy when I hear/read about other people’s amazing VB stories. Hopefully one day I’ll get to experience that too.

I will try and do personals this weekend but so tired and have attempted them for 3 nights now with no success.

Psst- I am hoping to have a VBAC for this baby and have been planning it before we even started TTC. Everything you wrote about feeling what if is exactly how I feel too. I have joined Birthrites which is a support group for VBAC's but moreso to help with a positive second birth if a c-section needs to be done. It's really helped me so far.

I'll try to explain my last birth as best as I can: sorry it's long I should blog it instead Feel free to skip.

I went to my appointment 10 days (a friday) after my due date hoping to get induced it was 1st february and I was truely over the summer and being pregnant only to be told the earliest induction they could give me was the following thursday afternoon (would have been 17 days over) The Doctor gave me a s&s and I went on my way to have lunch with my mum and nan. Later that night I roped DH into "helping me out" (DTD). Work up at 3am and had my first contraction (if I known it was going to be so long I might have stayed in bed longer) I sat in our lounge room waiting for the intensity to increase and timing them (they were 7-8 minutes apart) 7am my Dh woke so I told him about the contractions but told him we had plenty of time to get organised. I was in pain but they were coming anywhere from 20 minutes to 5 minutes apart. Around 9.30am I rang my mum (she was to be with us in the birth) came running down even though I really did want to just be alone and relax. I laboured with painful contractions 7 minutes apart for most of the day. I also used our pinball machines to distract myself and found them great to lean on when I had a contraction

I rang the hospital at 1pm and told them I was in lbour but wanted to stay at home. They were happy for me to stay there but I had to call in every few hours to update them. at 7pm I had enough contrations were 5 minutes apart and I was tired. Mum went to stock up on some supplies for the hospital while I had a shower and our last few moments as a couple. Anf off we went to the hospital being in the car did nothing for me and the 45 minute trip didn't help. We went to the FMU and was assessed at being 3 cm they could either admitt me or we could go for a walk and get dinner. I opted for option 3. it was 10pm at this stage and could only find macdonalds in perth city they only place for a quick feed - I remember having a massive contraction at the counter and freaking out the place - food to go we had to get back to the hosipital got admitted and opted straight for the bath for pain relief - which was ok but felt so cold and I wanted it warmer which they couldn't do as it is temperature controlled through the hospital so I didn't last long in there. Out of the bath I got a plush labour room and went to the bed - it looked so good and I was so tired. My lovely midwife did an examination (around 2.30am sundy morning) and I was at 4cm and he was positier and I had back labour (I hd slipped L5 disc 4 years previous so no wonder I was in pain) At this point I opted for epidual (maybe not the wisest decision as I think it slowed down a slow labour more).

Fast forward my novel to 12pm sunday where I was at 9cm and the big boss doctor (don't know what they call him) who told me I had an hour to deliver or it was a c-section (no bed manner what so ever) I was exhausted so burst in tears. I wanted nothing than to avoid the c-section. And hour and the nice dr came back and I was told I was at 10cm so could start pushing. My epi was wearing off (cause I didn't want to use the top up and wanted to start feeling again) Ds would not comply to my pushing (he was still up high I could feel him near my ribs) so Mean head doctor came back in to check me again. I was 10cm but had an anterior lip and my blood pressure was dipping so I need a c-section and it had to be now. I was wheeled away and had to have a spinal tap as the epi was too old (or something like that) I remember being so scared and they told me they were going to make the cut and my baby would be here soon. I was shaking so much from the spinal tap and Dh wasn't there yet. He walked in just in time and whispered that he loved me. He then peeked over the curtin and said my guts where on the table (yep I got a sweet one there) Then they produced the ugliest blue monkey I had over seen. Took him away to the table to clean up where he proceded to wee on the nurses. Dh then got his first cuddle - I was jealous I wanted the first cuddle. Alex David was born at 3.55pm 3rd February and was 53cm 8 pound 2 ounces (3.69kg) He had no name for almost a week.

I was wheeled to recovery and Dh went to spread the news and was told I would be out soon. Alex stayed with me and my midwife helped him have his first feed. After 45 minutes DH was allowed in (I think they were worried he would wear out the carpet) I had bleeding that they couldn't control so ws glad for the time DH was allowed into recovery for. I was so out of it and had no feelings towards Alex at this time.

I going to stop now but I'm glad I am finally writing down my birth and I think I will blog it for myself including the afterbirth stay in hospital and recovery. I'll link it to anyone interested. I found blogs for birth stories really good to make me feel I wasn't alone. I'm sorry it is so long.

Awwww loving the birth stories ladies!!! It's good to remember that special, crazy time and think that it's not to far away for round 2! And Mumma-to-A your story was great, not long at all!!! Love the bit about the pinball machines LOL!

carol I'd be pretty darned excited for 2 girls!!!!! It would be a crazy time in my house as it's very small, but I'd love it anyway!!!

AFM - So, I've hit the 5 week mark and I'm VERY tired but no nausea yet. I didn't really get it with DS either so am wondering if this will be similar... I'm worried about how early I'm going to show as I already feel like things are getting big (paranoia, or twins lol) and I'm not sure if it's just due to bloating. It probably is, I'd forgotten how crap you feel right at the beginning. It's already stuffing around with my bowels so that sucks.

Managed to get my scan.. but I have to wait 3 weeks!!! I was a bit spoilt with DS, got in for a dating scan at 6 weeks and was able to see the heartbeat. I was hoping for that again but the OB I'm going with is on leave at the moment. So, I'll be 8 weeks at least by then. Another 3 weeks to go *sigh*

I'm actually going with a different OB to the one I had with my DS - basically, that one was great but he was coming back from leave about 2 weeks before my due date and as Levi was early he didn't make it and I had one of the other OBs he works with. That one was great for the birth so I was open to having him - checked both of them out and their fees are similar but my original OB is again having leave right around when my due date is, so I'm going with the other one instead! I'm glad the OBs I have are all in a team and I know they're all good so whoever is rostered on will be good.

Hope everyone's having a relaxing Easter!!! xxx

Hi girls

Just checking in to see how you are enjoying your new home.

Hope everyone is going well.

Ali

Loving it Ali. Can't wait for a few more friends (both old and new) to join us.

Aurora sleeping - LOL yes my very expensive laundry folding stations ie pinball machines do come in handy during labour. Every labour ward should have one. DH has 9 in total at the moment - funny that he is also legally blind and can barely see me across the other side of the room but can play these for hours.

When are you all planning on on buying/laybying stuff if you need to? I want a capsule and of course a new pram but luckily my sister is loaning alot of her stuff.

I got some really bad news that a friend lost her battle with cancer on sunday night I'm sure that pregnancy hormones aren't helping with this news this week (I cried the other day because I forgot to hang out a load of washing)

Hope everyone else is doing well.

Hi Ladies.

A quick note to say it's a healthy looking baby with all the bits in the right places thus far, yeay and it's a BOY. Moat people were guessing another girl which was fine, I kind of figured that the sonographer would say it's a girl I might have that second of OW and then be all psyched - suffice to say it actually never occurred to me what I would think if they said it's a boy I know I'm an idiot. Now all I can think is yikes what am I going to do with one of those hmmm the same as with my DD take it one day at a time.

Got to say this pregnancy has felt totally different (stress alone) but also all the corny stuff I'm carrying totally differently, have been having some serious savoury cravings, could eat a jar of olives if one would let me my poor hubby thinks its funny.

OK now I need to go back, catch up on all the posts before I waffle on anymore.

Marti

ms-marti - That is fantastic newssssssss!!! Congratulations on a healthy baby boy!!!!!

I have still been quite sick had another chuck last night i can't believe i am 8 weeks still very scared and anxious still haven't really told anyone i just hope it all ends well

Hi to everyone i am currently cleaning so this is going to be a short one. Still at home full time haven't found a job yet the market is dead oh well we will survive

Hope everyone is well i really hope jesstazzy gets amazing news and can join us here in 2 weeks

Agh was typing a post and my phone just went blank and I lost it. Thankfully I hadn't typed much so here I go again!

Mumma - so sorry to hear about your friend. Cancer is such an evil disease. Thinking of you hon and I hope you're going ok

Ms-marti - woo hoo a baby boy fantastic news!!! How exciting!!

caroldiem - oh the throwing up isn't nice but a good sign!

AFM - symptoms really kicking in this week, so tired and boobies really sore. Already gone up a cup size
and feeling a bit queasy most of the time, basically when I'm not eating which I hate because I don't want to stack the weight on!! But trying to stick to plain foods anyway like some crackers etc. feel like I'm a bit irritable too which I also hate as sometimes I find myself losing it with DS over things I wouldn't normally so trying to keep that in check. It's mainly at night though so the tiredness is making that worse I think.

Will probably call my OB tomorrow to make an appointment, not really planning on going til I'm 8-9 weeks so not too fussed about it yet.

Been posting in the Dec DIG but I know what you mean Psst, it just feels so big and impersonal. You ask a question and no one seems to answer it or within half a day it's about 20 posts back and no one, including me, can be bothered going back that far!! I'll keep plodding along though, it will no doubt settle down once all the BFPs have been and it's the regulars posting.

Not much else going on here, I've had this week off work which has been nice so just relaxing and spending time with DS. Can't believe I'm almost 6 weeks already! I know that's still early but seems like its going quickly. Hopefully the next 2 weeks goes quickly as I just want to get to 8 weeks to feel a bit more confident.

Well I'll stop rabbiting on now! Hope you're all having a great day!

Andrea xox

ETA - oh no, just called my OB and he's away until the 28th of May. I'll be 12 weeks by then and I don't know if I can wait that long although I didn't see him til then with DS. I could see another OB before then but I don't really see the point. Or maybe I could get a referral from my GP for a scan around 8-9 weeks just to make sure it's all ok. But then I'll be going for my NT scan about 3 weeks later anyway??? Agh so confused???

GRRRRR.... I just did a massive reply, but while I was typing EB logged me out and I lost the lot!!

So, here's a really quick version of what I can remember:

Mumma to A - sorry to hear about your friend. And thanks for sharing your birth story - LOL at your labour aid of pinball machines. Bet that's not in any of the books!

Aurora - glad you have your OB sorted. I'll be using the same one, if he'll support my VBAC attempt which I think he will

Ms marti - yay for a boy! And even more importantly, yay for everything being where it's meant to be!!

Carol - sorry you're still being sick. Hopefully it's good signs for a strong, sticky bub

Andrea - I guess it depends on how much you want to use the same OB? If you do, and you're happy to pay for an extra scan then maybe have one around 7/8 weeks and then see the OB at the end of May? Originally I was happy to just wait until the 12 week scan but my GP suggested a dating scan due to cycles being irregular since having DD. Now I'm quite happy for the chance to check on things a little earlier.

AFM - also feeling queasy most of the day. Worst is after breakfast and early evening. Haven't chucked yet so am thankful for that. My mum guessed on Sunday as I didn't have any wine with Easter lunch and she's super excited.

Having a dating scan on Wednesday morning and I'll feel much more relaxed once I've seen a heartbeat. And then I see my OB in early May.

OK, going to send this now before I lose it again!!

ms-marti - Yay for a boy. I'm really thinking I'm carrying a girl and trying to work out how to deal with my feelings if it's another boy. I know deep down boys are great but I'd love one of each.

Caroldiem - Yuk! Hope you feel better soon. Never really got sick just lots of nausea. And I hope Jess can join us too. Wishing her all the best for this 2 week wait (and mummajeena too)

Andrea - Why don't you just get a dating scan from your Gp for peice of mine. 3 weeks in the first trimester is such a long time.

Pssst - I would say most OB seem to be supportive of VBAC these days so your chances are good. I got my DS to tell my mum and dad. He told them I had a baby in my belly it was so cute.

AFM _ Feeling so much more movement now. I love this part of pregnancy. Really tired still even though I actually got a full nights sleep so thinking my thyroid or iron levels need to be checked again. Better go before I also lose my post too not EB's fault my laptop battery died and I keep knocking the power cord out.

Hi lovely ladies!!! Lost this thread for a while, had to do a search to find it again!!!

marti YAAAAAAAAYYYYY for a boy!!!! Oh, you will love him, boys are delicious little creatures and lots of fun!!! Love my boy so much I have to be careful not to squish him too hard lol. And think about what your DH/DP will be like - so nice to see the relationship between Dad and Son. Oh congrats - have fun with names!!!

Mumma to A - I feel EXACTLY the same. Now I've swayed for a girl, I feel good that I gave a little girl a chance but I'm worried about feeling a bit sad about not having a girl this time. I have 3 brothers, DH has 3 brothers and I just feel like I'd love another female in my close family other than my Mum - sounds weird but I'm worried about when she dies and I won't have that mother/daughter relationship and I just feel like it would be a comfort to have that with a daughter. Anyway, whatever happens I will love this bub (I already do!) so that's not in question, I guess it's just lamenting the loss of that kind of relationship. But we shall see!!! Agggghhhh your comments about movement made me feel all warm and fuzzy, can't wait for that time too!

Carol 8 weeks woohoo!!!! Good on you cleaning, I'm having trouble getting off the couch!!!!!

Pssst... hoping your OB supports your VBAC attempt. Looking forward to hearing about the scan!!!

Andrea, I said it in the other group, but if it were me, I'd get one. Unless you feel you can wait and would prefer not to pay the money, I'd find it hard to wait that long. That's me though. Chat to DH and see what he thinks, but it sounded from your other post that he felt the same.

AFM - Tired... And staying up late is not helping, I really need to stop doing that! Although every 2nd night I fall asleep on the lounge at 8:30-9pm. Not much MS although I've been feeling a bit faint every now and then. I've been trying to make sure I'm not left feeling hungry though so maybe that's held it off a bit. When I go back to school next term I'll be 8 weeks so hopefully it won't kick in then. Waiting, waiting, waiting for my scan... 2 weeks to go...

Hi girls
(whispers) Sssssshhhhhh! I'm not really here yet! I got a massive surprise natural BFP yesterday and it's still there today a little darker. I'm too scared to post in the DIG yet but thought its ok to say hi in here. I'm 14dpo today and no AF. My EDD will be (if it sticks) 22nd December, the day after my birthday but I couldn't care less if it's born on Xmas day, I just want a real live baby. I'm going to go to the GP next week (he's going to kill me lol for how many times I harass him about this then show up pregnant) then officially join here and the DIG.
Hoping Jess, mumma and duck-o-lah are joining us soon.

Bellefin I am

That is just amazing news acupuncture is amazing isn't it I am so very excited for you i know it's early days BUT i really hope it's a sticky for you i have a feeling it will be

I also really hope jess, mumma and duck o lah can join us here very very soon like tomorrow hehehehehe.

Most of us are still in the first trimester GAH!!! can't wait for that 2nd trimester to hit

aurora sleeping - Unfortunately my feeling good cleaning didn't last long the next day i woke up feeling horrible again and couldn't function, same thing yesterday this morning i had a lovely dry retching episode all good signs though OB appt 1 week to go i am counting down Monday the 23rd of April i really hope the baby is still there with a heartbeat I am staying positive until something goes wrong. Can't wait to hear about your scan twins here we comeeeeeeeeeeee

*Mumma-to-A* - It is so lovely when you are at the stage of your pregnancy when you can feel movement hopefully i will get there I don't like being in danger miscarriage zone but we all have to go through it

Pssst... - yep still feeling sick 24/7 bad nausea but luckily the vomiting is sporadic not like some woman who vomit every 20mins I really feel for them. Look forward to hearing great news about your dating scan it's the best when it all works out and you walk away atleast knowing at that point in time there is a baby and a heartbeat


andrea79 - I have just put on my bonds maternity bra from my previous pregnancy ahhhhhhh bliss!! finally my girls feel a little comfortable they have been sore and enlarged from Day 1. If i was you i would just go to my local GP and get a dating scan referral and get it done at 8 weeks there is no way i could wait until 12 weeks especially considering what we have both been through. Plus there usually free just ask your Gp to write bulk bill on the form something my GP forgot to do because she was so bloody excited for me heheheheh but doesn't matter

Bellefin - Quickly and quietly YAY! Update us soon.

Caroldiem - The thought of Bra shopping right now is way too much but I am in desperate need of maternity bras. I have a good mix of other bras because I lost alot of weight last year (but gaining it with this pregnancy) but they aren't going to cut it much longer. I still feel like I am in the danger zone. I can't wait till my next scan just so I can relax again. 2 weeks to go.

Aurora sleeeping - It's how I feel too. It's not that boys aren't great they really are but I want the mother/daughter bond I have with my mum. I had a dream it was a boy last night and even though I was disappointed I was so happy to kiss and cuddle him. All other dreams have pointed to a girl so maybe this is my subconcious telling me that it doesn't matter either way because I love this baby.

AFM - I'm resisting sleep. I finally have gotten around to clean out my study/tip room. My bin is already full and the trailer is half full of stuff to donate. And I uncovered my old maternity clothes and while they are big they will do - whoo hoo. I need to know what I am having now so I can repaint and carpet the floors and then sort out the 3 packing boxes worth of stuff for the baby. So much paper work to sort/file better get back to it.

Ok just want to come and say I mean i know i am not vomiting every 30 mins but i tend to vomit atleast once a day and feel absolutely horrible with the worst nausea 24/7 i hope it's a good sign that this baby is growing in there. i figure if it isn't my symptoms would dissapear. I am counting down one week to left to my OB appt i am so anxious i think i have convinced my DH to come with me just incase there is bad news

Sorry for whinging but i just feel so so ill

OK I'm still here, for the time being anyway!

Caroldiem - thank you and I know! I totally have faith in chiro and acupuncture. Once I started chiro my cycle went to a textbook cycle and I had no spotting before AF, and once I started acupuncture almost straight away - bam! Pregnant! Well chucking sucks but at least it's reassuring. And it should pass in a few weeks. Were you sick with #1? I never was.

Mumma to A - wow you can feel movement already! I am desperate to have a swollen belly and a squirmy baby inside. Sounds like you are starting the "nesting" already!

Pssst...I hear you about waiting for the scan. Imagine when they didn't have scans and all this technology!

Aurora sleeping - what's all this talk of twins? Was it because you got an early BFP or cos of your hCG levels? Oh well we'll find out soon I guess!

Andrea - yes the DIG is overwhelming, I've had a quick peek. I wonder why they don't split them like they used to, EDD before and after the 15th. Then they are half the size and much more manageable. 6 weeks, that's halfway to 12 weeks, every week is a little closer to safe, that's the way I try to look at it.

Ms Marti - hi again Wow you're already halfway then. Does your DD understand? My DD is totally into dolls and babies at the moment, she wraps up anything she can find and carries it around trying to feed it or put it to sleep. I've told her Santa is bringing her a very special present this year and she just grins at me.

AFM - OK so this is what happened. I had totally given up trying, after 13 cycles and my terrible test results I knew it wasn't going to happen. I was just looking forward to my FS appt. 2 weeks ago I got a really strong OPK on the Friday so out of habit I guess we BD that night about midnight. Next day I had terrible O pains just after midday so I put DD to sleep then went to sleep myself. I wasn't even thinking about being in the 2WW, I was just looking forward to seeing if my LP would be 13 or 14 days, and what the new FS was going to suggest. I had a cold last Weds which is unusual for me, some crazy dreams which I thought nothing of, and I was super hungry, but that sometimes happens in LP anyway. So Weds I was happy I got to 13dpo and I took my temp as usual and it was 36.9 . So I did an HPT, knowing it would be another BFN and not straight away, but after a while a very faint line appeared.I woke up my sister and BFF calling them ranting about a line. I peed on anything I could find that day like my last test and an OPK then I bought a 3 pack of FRER and did one in the arvo - darker. Next morning - darker again and this morning darker again.

And here I am. Can't believe it. Don't know if the clomid last cycle gave things a boost, or if the chiro and acupucture helped or it's because I had sort of given up and stopped expecting it to happen naturally. I don't know if it will last, I've been told my egg quality is bad and my fertility is declining so I'm super paranoid. 12 weeks seems like an eternity from here 4weeks 1 day. I haven't had any symptoms except for slight nausea once in a while so looking forward to those in a few weeks. Tomorrow I'll call the Drs to get a BT but I'm not really in any rush, just trying to get through the day without any bleeding. Still on school holidays, the weeks go so fast when I'm back at work so that should help. I've read its the size of a poppy seed right now and I just can't fathom with all the problems I've had that that is going to turn into a baby, but my body has done it before, it can do it again. Please please stick little baby!

Bellefin _ i am taking the same approach i take it one day at a time and i just think when i wake up every morning "please no bleeding today" if i get through the day with no blood things are looking good and then i just think ok caroline just keep going think positive until you get bad news. My Chinese herbal medicine doctor told me it's important to start talking to the baby when you are 5 weeks supposedly she said they did some research in england that the baby at that gestation can hear you and connect with you so i make an effort to speak with the baby once a day it's hard though. Sounds like it was a combination of things but i know acupuncture is amazing i only had 3 treatments within 2 weeks of seeing my Chinese medicine doctor i was pregnant. i can't wait to share all the info i know with my sister in law who had the miscarriage as well about 3 months after me because i know there is a good chance it will work for her as well. it will be all good Bellefin

Oh Bellefin I cannot believe it!!!! Wow, I'm hoping that now you have your BFP it's nice and sticky!!! You and Carol are pretty darned inspirational!!! Oh and you'll be in our DIG too!!! Yaaaaaaayyyy!!!!

And yep, the deal with the twins stuff is that I got an early BFP and my levels were high. Nothing very concrete at all, just a bit fun to talk about. Having said that, I'm now just over 6 weeks and I can't hold my tummy in any more.... May be cuz it's baby #2 and everything's already all 'soft' though. We'll find out in 2 weeks in any case!!!!

Carol, if I were you, I'd be hating the MS too, even if it is only once a day. It's still every day!!!

Tired still, and almost fainted yesterday when I was on my way to a party, having gone to another party earlier. I think it was cuz I didn't eat as regularly yesterday. Need to go to bed now, so that's it for me...

Agh just lost my post again! Seems to be when I try to use an emoticon so this post will be emoticonless!!!

Pssst - I bet you're excited for your scan on Wednesday! All the best and I'll be stalking for an update!!

Mumma - oh love feeling the baby move, that's my favourite part of pregnancy! I remember after I had DS I even missed it!!

Bellefin - woo hoo!! CONGRATULATIONS lovely that's fantastic news! So happy for you and sending tonnes of sticky vibes your way. And I reckon they'll split the DIG once all Dec BFPs have been received!

caroldiem - oh sorry to hear about the vomiting but as the other girls have said its a really good sign that things are still going well.

aurorasleeping - oh wow the fainting thing isn't good. And this is when you're on holidays. Take it easy and make sure you keep nibbling on something!!

Sorry for the minimal personals! On my phone!

AFM - boobs sooo sore, feeling tired all the time, and queasy/nauseous basically most of the day except when I'm eating! I've been crashing on the couch when DS goes for a sleep and sometimes up to 2 hrs! I never do that!

And thank you all for your advice re a scan. I decided to call my GP and arrange a referral for a scan which I'll have when I'm 8 weeks. So I'll pick that up today and make an appointment. Starting to feel a little on edge this week. I started bleeding right on 7 weeks last time so I'm feeling a little anxious about that time coming up but I'm having a lot more sympptoms than I did last time so I'm taking that as a good sign!

Well I better go and have a shower and do the housework! Joy! Hope you all have a great day!

Bellefin - I am cautiously over the moon for you Hey maybe it's a trend you know last time you were pregnant before me and now I am pregnant before you. I have everything crossed for you and am positively looking to see if this one is a boy, you know following the trend with me

DD's understanding of there being a baby is to constantly lifts my top and "look at the baby", her comment: Baby's in the belly, it's hiding, can't see it" and cause my sister is pregnant too she was going through a stage where she would look at her tummy and say baby in Georgia's belly and my DH's as my poor DH was a little concerned she thought his belly looked pregnant too was so cute. She also feeds the dolls, puts them to sleep, baths the dolls, they sort of end up landing in the bath behind my back, even the ones not suitable for bathing, that's been fun but all in all I don't know how much she gets that there will be a screaming infant at home soon enough. I think once we set up a room with a bed and all she'll get more aware, well once we have built the extention and we have a room . Hence we bought a bassinette over the weekend as she’ss till in her cot and I was a little concerned that if we moved her out and put the baby ion it she might not process that well I'm probably just being paranoid.

What are you all ladies thinking/doing for the bed/sleeping arrangements for baby no 2 :-) oh yeah might be too soon to ask maybe

Caroldiem – I hear you with one day at a time. Having had the bleeding./spotting for what seemed like ever it took a lot of reminder from my DH that this sort of happened the last time as well though I honestly cannot recall it having been this intense. Hence why I had made a conscious decision to do away with the negativity, decided to enjoy whatever part of the pregnancy this was going to be, as well harsh it may be there was little I could do to stop nature taking it’s course and I did not want to get to the end of the line and be disappointed at how little I had a chance to “enjoy it”

aurora sleeping - 1 or 2 babies either way I'm sure you will have a blast. In the meantime for the scan results to see how many bubs there are on board

andrea79 - Thinking of you, tiredness sounds good to me, was catatonic in the first trimester, had my DH laughing that I could almost sleep on my feet I kept saying growing a baby is tiring work . Having a dating scan this time did make it more real for me and maybe reassured me with having seen the heartbeat and all the other bits were there that were meant to be, guess made it more real.

*Mumma-to-A* - I can see that having the "pigeon pair" has this almost logical balance about it and this in only my opinion but I think it’s fair to be honest with yourself cause bother worse then being all OK and not really I guess dealing with the fact that it’s OK to be a little disappointed, I think I probably would have been and yet by the same token would have been ecstatic for my DD to have a sister, that’s a bond all in itself. I honestly think that my mum is the most exited it's a boy as my DD is totally utterly a grandpa's girl

Pssst - I would think the same with VBAC and the OB's approach to them but as with all things maybe it's best to discuss upfront then you have a chance to change OB's if that is what you need/want to do.

Me - I'm going good, nausea seems almost gone, though there have been a day here the there where I just got totally sick on something I ate, or it could have been me overindulging so my DH tells me, it was Easter and there was so much nice food around, i blame my mum for baking 5 cakes . Really who does that, oh more like who eats all that well that would be me

Just a quick post as I have 3 kids here and not sure how long tresure buddies will hold their attention (working so far) That and I am exhausted. Really exhausted. Having iron and thyriod checked but I need enough energy to go back to pathology and wait and I feel to tired to drive at the moment.

Ms-Marti - I still have DS bassinett so baby will be in that for a few months. I don't even want to buy a cot till xmas time (because thats when we would start using it) but DH just wants to get the cost over and done with. We sold DS cot when he grew out of it and went into a bed a few years ago. I have started to empty the study which will be babys room. I have got to sell a few things (and get rid of a trailer of stuff for donation) before I can consider painting and convince DH that both kids need new carpet for their rooms. He thinks that the kids will destroy it but I just want something cheaper but looks modern (it's orginal carpet when the house was built in 1985 and I know this because I know the orginal owners still)

I might just pop into the other thread and see how the other girls are doing. Try a proper post soon. I knew the movie wouldn't last long.

Hi everyone

Quick update from me: scan went well this morning. Heartbeat nice and strong and bub's size shows that I'm 7 weeks today. I had estimated I'd be 7+2 so pretty close.

Belle - so happy to see you in here and hopefully you'll feel confident to come and join us in the DIG v soon! xx

Ms Marti - we're house hunting so fingers crossed this bub will have his/her own room (at least initially). If we haven't found somewhere then we'll buy a bassinet (we didn't have one for DD) and bub will sleep in our room until ready to go into the cot. And then DD and the little one will have to share.

big hello to all the other ladies in here. Hope you're all well

Just another quick one today.

Psst - You never know those 2 days could by you time at the end for a VBAC. I'm glad everything was ok.

Our sept group was split but not by the mod, though she agreed shw would keep it that way until things slowed. It was working ok but both groups slowed alot now so we are back in one group again so this is why they don't split them anymore.

Vent coming up. feel free to skip. I'm so annoyed at my mum right now. I've asked her repeatly not to put stuff on FB about my pregnancy as I didn't want it on there. Now she not only put it on her status yesterday about expecting another grandchild - which I had a go at her but then my name wasn't meantioned. Today I have some family member congratulating me straight on my page, which I deleted and thanked them via PM but explained that I hadn't annouced it on my FB. I know it's a petty vent but I have a few close friends who are having problems TTC and they all know in RL but it's just hard to explain on why I didn't want it there. Don't mess with a hormonal pregnant lady. And FWIW I was going to put scan pictures up next week but I preferred to tell close friends in person.

Vent away *Mumma-to-A* you have every right to. Mothers are just so unbelievable sometimes, i would need a whole day to vent about mine seriously mine acts like a child and is very insecure and looks at any chance to accuse me of something it's ridiculous. I have to walk on egg shells all the time around her. I am personally not a fan of announcing pregnancies on facebook i will never do it it's just too personal for me i would also never put any photos of scans up etc it's just not me i think it's really tacky but each to their own.

I need to vent i am sooooooooooooooo sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkk i want to dieeeeeeeeeeeee seriously

I have my DD's lovely throat virus plus the pregnancy sickness. Last night i made a beautiful red wine lamb casserole it was delicious with yummy vegetables thinking this is what my body needs to get better etc well my body had a different idea and an hour later decided to come back up out of my mouth it was disgusting. I am too scared to eat the left overs in the fridge because i know i am just going to vomit it back up again. I was never this sick when pregnant with DD we are convinced it's a boy. My DH always gets a smile on his face when he hears me chuck because he feels it's reassuring the baby is still there and growing. Last night after my lovely chuck he said to me well the baby didn't like that he is a meat man well it could be a girl only time will tell. And then this morning due to constipation i had bleeding from my tooshie after doing a no 2 it was awful i wiped and was like OMG bloooddd then realised of it's from my lovely anal fissure *sigh* i know too much information but i feel so much better venting here.

Off to sulk in the corner with a cup of tea dried toast and some panadol. Seriously all i can eat these days is dry toast and crackers

Hi just a quickie from me, supposed to be doing housework!

Mumma to A - that is totally understandable, my BFF was complaining to me yesterday cos her mum went and bought a whole bunch of stuff for the baby that she didn't want. She wants to get everything second hand and choose stuff herself and she was really annoyed. I told her grandmas-to-be get hyterical and there's not much she can do except maybe make a list of some things she needs and let her mum buy them. That's not cool putting stuff on facebook though without asking you.

Carol - far out you are sick lovely! How awful Well hopefully it will pass by 12 weeks. You can get medication for morning sickness. My BFF (same one) chucked several times a day and got the medication although it didn't stop it completely it did reduce the amount of times per day. She is now about 18 weeks and totally fine.

AFM - I feel like disgusting crap. DD continues to wake up multiple times a night howling for me and I have to sit by her bed until she falls asleep then I go back to bed and I have early pregnancy insomnia so I can't sleep so I lie awake for 2 hours then she wakes up again and starts again. I also have a cough/cold/flu thing because your immune system goes down during pregnancy. I am struggling and have to go back to work next week and pretend everything is normal.

I got my Dr confirmation today, no hCG number, just "positive". I'll be 5 weeks at the weekend and I have my scan at the OB booked in 2 more weeks when I'm nearly 7 weeks. In with tradition, my sister and I have come up with a funny way to tell (confuse) my mum. Last time I told her on mother's day, and this time the EDD is only a few weeks different so I can tell her on Mother's day again.

Going to change my sig now then get on with the washing/tidying...